My gf broke up with me over this movie
True story.
I've made a huge mistake.
Why? Did it spook her *that* much?
shareWe had a disagreement over whether or not the lead character deserved to be "dragged to hell." I said that she didn't, but my girlfriend said she did. This debate quickly escalated into an argument, and the next thing I know she said she said it was over. LOL.
I've made a huge mistake.
I more or less agree with her ... about the movie, I mean.
But you have not really told us her position. WHY did she think Christine "deserved" (if that's the right word) to be dragged to hell?
She said it was because Christine sold out her morals/ethics to try to get ahead, and then later to save her soul.
My argument was that she didn't do anything different than the rest of us would, especially regarding her post-curse actions. If it came down to the life of a cat vs. your own, I think one would be hard pressed to find somebody who wouldn't do the same thing she did. I also pointed out the irony that Christine got herself into this situation by foreclosing on the gypsy lady's home, when my ex herself worked in property management and often times had to evict people from their apartments.
I've made a huge mistake.
> "My argument was that she didn't do anything different than
> the rest of us would, especially regarding her post-curse actions."
Haha! No wonder she broke up with you. I don't blame her one bit!
> "If it came down to the life of a cat vs. your own, I think one
> would be hard pressed to find somebody who wouldn't do the same
> thing she did."
But who forced her to believe the things she chose to believe? One is never forced to have faith in the ultimate power of Evil, so that one is "forced" to make further evil actions in order to appease the Power of Evil.
Those who DO choose to believe such things invariably end up committing further evil in accordance with their dark, pessimistic philosophy. Then they say they had no choice; except they chose to have no choice by choosing that philosophy.
> "I think one would be hard pressed to find somebody who wouldn't
> do the same thing she did."
If so, then that is a sad comment on the state of the World. But I fully support your GF's decision to keep looking.
> "I also pointed out the irony that Christine got herself into
> this situation by foreclosing on the gypsy lady's home, when my
> ex herself worked in property management and often times had to
> evict people from their apartments."
The real irony is that you have no idea what you are talking about. I very much doubt that your GF has ever "had" to evict an old women, while in the middle of a serious health crisis, after she had made almost every payment for thirty years on a 30-year mortgage. The movie deliberately creates an extreme situation.
But even if your ex did "have" to do this, this still would not match the events of the film. Christine did not do what she did because she "had" to. Her boss gave her explicit permission to grant the extension.
But I hope you did not argue that she was guilty of doing "the same thing" as Christine, merely because she worked in property managements. If you did ... well, if that's what you think of her, that on its own might be sufficient reason to break up with you.
I'd say that the guy dodged a bullet. His ex sounds as loopy as you.
shareAs you wish. I guess there are two kinds of people in the world - those who would sacrifice their kitty to a demon on the say-so of a fortune-teller, and those who would not. I'm just glad I'm in the latter camp. And I am glad (from the OP's story) that I am not alone.
shareSo you wouldn't sacrifice a kitten if you were being attacked by a demon that will come and take you to hell after a few days?
share> So you wouldn't sacrifice a kitten if you were being attacked by a demon
> that will come and take you to hell after a few days?
Of course not. That isn't even a hard question. I would not sacrifice to a Hell-demon. We were put on earth to oppose evil, not blow over with the slightest puff of wind.
Are you saying you would? Murder a kitty just because a storefront gypsy said if you didn't worship the Devil with the offer of a yummy kitten, a demon would take you to Hell?
Not only would I not murder my kitty, I would not even let the gypsy get my $10,000. How gullible do you think I am? And I would not offer to appease the powers of Hell with as much as a cockroach.
Um what? The demon doesn't care what you think, it'll either accept the animal, or get you for all of eternity. And it's not worship.
share> Um what? The demon doesn't care what you think, it'll either accept the
> animal, or get you for all of eternity. And it's not worship.
Semantics are irrelevant. Call it "appeasement" instead of "worship" if you want. I see no reason to offer the demon a kitty. I see no reason to take the word of a fortune-teller that the gratuitous performance of wicked deeds, for the purpose of appeasing demons, will make me less likely to go to Hell.
I'm sure that if I consulted my local priest or minister, he would tell me that such acts (sacrificing animals to demon gods) would make me MORE likely to go to Hell. But I am not requiring that you trust the priest or minister. Whether you do or not, there is still no reason to trust the store-front fortune teller.
But I guess we all choose what we want to have faith in. If you want to trust the fortuneteller, then so be it. But the evidence of the film gives us no reason to think he is even remotely trustworthy.
All I am saying is that nobody FORCED Christine to trust the fortuneteller. And it is by no means difficult to believe that others would make different choices than she did.
I second nystulc.
Why would I kill my cat? First of all, I could never ever do that. And second, who says the fortuneteller tells the truth? If I would trust the statements of everybody running around praising to tell THE truth, where would I end?
And additionally, when I get my arse in *beep* I am responsible for that. And who am I to drag other beings in that with me.
She so deserved what was coming to her.
I really enjoyed that movie :)
I like your view point and I envy you.
Do you truly live a life void of superstition and belief in the super natural?
I try to.
Everything happening on earth is created by man. Ghosts/demons or whatever you call it are not an individual entity. They were created by a human mind unknowingly, like an extended arm. If you have wrath and hate bottled up inside you, it will find a way out. That is how humans work.
This whole super natural theme originates from religion. "If you don't do what we want you to, you will be punished."
There is nothing on this planet we are not responsible for. There is no foreign entity or demon trying to corrupt humanity.
Sidenote:
I cannot speak for foreing races from space, I have not visited other star systems to be sure of that.
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very well stated, I am in full agreement. but when it gets dark and you are alone, sometimes the fear encroaches.
shareI bet if this bloody demon would come and hit you in the face you would sacrifice a kitty. And not only your, but I'm sure you'd do the same thing to your neighbors' as well. And don't even start with "I don't believe in demons", well, say it to him when the thing is after you. And I bet the kitten she sacrificed deserved it too. I think the beast was just a lazy bastard who peed on the carpet..
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> I bet if this bloody demon would come and hit you in the face you
> would sacrifice a kitty. And not only your, but I'm sure you'd do
> the same thing to your neighbors' as well.
But why on earth would I do that, in this case? I mean dude, this isn't even a hard question. The demon is not promising or offering me anything, except perhaps to keep tormenting me no matter what I do. So why would I kill a kitty, or a neighbor's kitty, as distinct from any other random wicked act, like breaking into my neighbor's house and peeing on their carpet?
At least give me a reason to be TEMPTED to commit a wicked deed, before you tell me that I could not possibly resist the temptation.
> And don't even start with "I don't believe in demons", well, say
> it to him when the thing is after you.
But dude, I do believe in demons, more or less. Many of us who believe there is such thing as evil, believe we have a duty to resist it. "I must commit rape, murder or whatever -- or kitty slaughter -- because the devil wants me to" is not a very convincing argument. If the devil wants me to kill a cockroach, then it seems to me that is an excellent reason to leave the cockroach alone.
I would never go that far to pee on someone's carpet. You're nasty for even thinking about it.
But let's say not a demon, but some sick bastard breaks into your home, puts a knife on your throat and demands you to kill a kitten or he will slith your throat - what would you do? He will not give you any guarantees that he'll let you live.
The reason I really liked the film (besides that it was so bloody awesome) was the theme - no matter how good person you are, you sometimes still start to think more about your own wellbeing than just purely helping others (I'm sure most of us people are like this). And when things go extreme for survival most of us would do anything to stay alive. But there is thing how far we really could go - she sacrificed the kitten, and it wasn't very easy for her, but she couldn't give her curse as a gift to the other person. She thought about it, but wasn't able to do so.
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That bitch was obviously planning the break-up already. Not an uncommon tactic, if you want to leave someone and don't have a good reason for it, you just make a big *beep* deal out of some random *beep* :P
You're better off without her bruh!
Amen.
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I would not sacrifice to a Hell-demon. We were put on earth to oppose evil, not blow over with the slightest puff of wind.
I like your style, mate.
I think the point just doesn't sink in for some.
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You can only say that because you're not actually in that situation, and you know you never will be.
If you did have that demon coming after you, you would rip a kitty's throat out with your teeth if you thought it might even have the slightest chance of saving you, as would any human alive. Your subconscious sense of self preservation is far stronger than your conscious thought on animal cruelty.
It's all really based on psychology, it's a state where you'd say things you would or wouldn't do but when it comes down to real situation that YOU are dealing with, that's how you will know.
Everybody has their selfishness especially in this sophisticated era, a man falls down and most people would just look at him without having any sympathy and walk away like nothing has ever happened. When it's the end of the world, I would probably think that almost, almost, almost every people in this world would be selfish as the catastrophe is happening 5 km behind you and you keep running without ever considering anyone anymore except your family if you're kind enough.
If you only knew...
I've made a huge mistake.
Dude, you're nuts.
First of all breaking up with someone over a movie is so stupid. OP dodged a bullet indeed.
The fortune teller was right about her being cursed and stalked by a demon so I'd say his suggestions have some merit to them.
If it came down to it you'd really rather BURN IN HELL, TORTURED, FOR ALL ETERNITY than kill a cat? LOL that's hilarious, have fun! You wouldn't be "more likely" to go to hell for killing the cat, your chances would be the same.
How do you know what his girlfriend had to do for her job? Do you know her? I'm going to assume the actual boyfriend knows more than you do.
What it came down to is Christine evicted the women from her house for not paying her bills, this happens ALL THE TIME. The world is not a charity. Christine was just doing her job I don't think that means she deserves eternity in hell. Even IF Christine gave the extension I think we can assume the lady would not have managed to pay rent given the fact that she had two previous extensions, was old, and even said herself she has trouble working due to her eye. Another extension would have been a waste and her boss knew that. That's why he said she made the right decision, he was testing Christine.
If was OP said is true she was doing something similar to Christine but he never said that was a bad thing.
Let me guess: She's "religious". Right?
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I also pointed out the irony that Christine got herself into this situation by foreclosing on the gypsy lady's home, when my ex herself worked in property management and often times had to evict people from their apartments.
Hah. Sounds like you got rid of a total hypocrite right there. Good on you.
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just my personal opinion, your ex girlfriend needs professional help
shareIf one can break up over a movie, they might break up again over some other silly argument in future
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