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Rating boosted by dog lovers?


Not trying to be provocative, but... (disclaimer, I'm neither a cat nor a dog man now, though had cats when I was a kid)

Do dog lovers rate this film more highly than 'regular' viewers? I've had a poke around in the message boards and it seems that there is a lot of love for the dog and discussion about his traits eg loyalty etc. There doesnt seem to be that much talk about the film, the way it is written/filmed/directe etc.

It seems to me that people who love dogs are drawn to this film ad love it becase it is about dogs. Not so many people are drawn to it as a film yet it has (at the time of writing) an 8.2 score. I can only think that a sentimental film about a dog and his relationship with the owner is triggering a big response for people with dogs. I'm not being judgemental, just trying to understand the reasons behind it's high rating.

For what it's worth, I can cry at a shaving foam advert but during this film the only hint of teariness wat the point where the wife came and found Hachi still waiting. I remained dry though. More dreary than teary. It was an unremarkable film, and gave it a 4, nothing that will stay with me beyond the viewing.

Interested in people's thoughts.

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Hell, if Batman movies can constantly rate in the top 100s and other seriously questionable ratings, it seems to be just that: a popularity scores, nothing to do in a lot of cases a reflection of the quality of a movie.

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Yeah, the whole fanboy thing bugs me with the batman/marvel etc type of film. The film cones out, fanboys see it, rate super high, and its right up there in top100, and its only a few years later that other less obsessed folk get to see it and the ratings drop slowly, down, down... I guess there's nothing wrong with it, but I am getting kind of bored of that stuff, Marvel in particular. Just my hobby horse...

The dog thing is maybe a bit more genuine, I dont know. I rate things on how much I enjoyed a film, not necessarily how good I think it is (the two are not always the same thing). So if you really really like dogs, and you rate on that basis, nothing wrong with it I guess. The ratings system for me really only has any value when a film is rated in the 1-4 bands. Never seen such a low rating I disagreed with, but often really disagree with higher ratings.

Personal tastes...

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Did you see the immediate reaction and rotten tomatoes scores for BvS: Dawn of Justice and the Justice League?
Even DC fanboy like me hated them with a fiery passion. They were atrocious with no story and deserved to go straight to VHS.
I'm glad Hack Snyder is out of a job now. Fucking music clip making ass...

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Exactly, they're fanboy votes.
Can't believe that movies like Fly Away Home (1996), that's based on a true story as well and really touch your inner soul and make you cry, are not in the Top 250 list. Now I know why.

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Gotta be.

" Look, there's two women fuc*ing a polar bear "

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Oh absolutely! Same thing with Marley and Me, a truly awful movie that's basically a 90 minute segue to personal catharsis!

When you're 17 a cow can seem dangerous and forbidden...am I alone here?

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Sven, do you really have to ask???

Who is going to seek out a tear-jerker film centering on the love and loyalty of a dog?

People who love (or at least like) dogs!

And then to find out that for the most part, there actually WAS a dog whose story this was based on?

Now you've got people practically squeezing their pets python style because any less force wouldn't convey the love properly.

Personally, I don't see how someone can watch this film and see dogs as anything but gifts of nature for humans. But for those of us who already feel that way.... this movie was a dog lover's treat with a kleenex ending.

Yeah, dog lovers didn't watch this for its cinematography or character development or even because it had a dog in it. We watched it for the magic that exists in the relationship between a human and the dog that lives for them and vice versa.

This movie was beautiful, but admittedly... I LOVE dogs.

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I've only just seen your reply, a few months on, coz I got a notification about another comment - didn't get one for yours though, for some reason...?

Anyway, a bit late, but just want to say, that's a really nice reply. I don't completely agree, (eg who is going to seek it out - I did, and I don't fit your criteria) but that's by the by. I like the way you describe the strength of the bond and while I don't feel that way for dogs myself, I 'get it'. I got a bit of an insight into that from the film, but it's the sort of thing that only living it really shows you.

THanks again.


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Movies are about story telling. Hachi was a movie with an amazing real life story. If a movie is able to make most grown men (like myself) cry their eyes out, then that movie has set out what it was meant to do. Dog lover or not, that movie deserves it's rating.

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Movies are about story telling. Hachi was a movie with an amazing real life story. If a movie is able to make most grown men (like myself) cry their eyes out, then that movie has set out what it was meant to do. Dog lover or not, that movie deserves it's rating.

Have to disagree about that.

Hachi was poorly acted and did not have enough story for a full length film. Hachi made one and half hours feel like 15 hours... we basically just watch a dog waiting and waiting. Yes it had emotional impact but that alone doesn't make it a great film - it merely makes the film emotionally manipulative. The music had a big contribution to emotional response, wearing out the viewer's resistance in prolonged and calculated manner.

Pretty much the same thing with "Grave of the Fireflies"... we see the brother stealing food time and again. That film is probably even more manipulative than "Hachi", if we look at the story alone. Both films had cute characters too.

As a film, as far as the story and acting goes, I would say "Hachi" is probably worst film in top 250. Just because it makes you cry doesn't mean it's a great film.

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What has got "grown men" got to do with crying? Are you ashamed to be considered a *beep* I'm a grown man too and of course I cry at movies. It's not a girl's thing, you know? Macho talk, sheesh.

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If it's true that dog lovers rate it more highly, what's wrong with that?

Veterans probably rate war movies higher. Horror movie lovers probably rate horror movies higher than non-horror movie lovers. Comic books lovers probably rate Ironman or The Avengers higher than non-comic-book-lovers.

If you were a movie buff, you would know this. When a friend recommends seeing an action adventure comic book movie because it's a blockbuster that's rated highly, I usu. don't go, because I know I won't like it much. I'm not an action adventure/comic book fan.

So you don't relate to dogs. So you don't see the same things in the movie that dog lovers do. That makes sense.

It's not just dog lovers, though. I am a dog lover, but I'm also an avid documentary watcher. I've seen documentaries on the evolution of man and dog. It's an interesting subject. No other animal has that same connection with humans that dogs do. Why is that? Interesting subject. This movie is about that.

Gere is an excellent actor, IMO. The movie is based on a true story. It's a remarkable story. And a sad one. I suppose you've never had that connection with a loyal companion, who would wait until death for you to come back. I am sad for you.

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What an odd reply. I guess you didn't see my second comment on this thread where I said

I rate things on how much I enjoyed a film, not necessarily how good I think it is (the two are not always the same thing). So if you really really like dogs, and you rate on that basis, nothing wrong with it I guess.


Why would asking a question about people's reasons for rating a film reflect anything at all about my being a movie buff or not? I'm not sure I count myself as a 'buff' (I'm certainly not buff) but I do watch a hell of a lot of movies, cutting across all genres, all ages, all periods. I hoover up films, (thaks to insomnia, I'm getting through 3 a day most of the time) and love them or hate them for reasons that are as personal to me as your reasons are for you. It's good to be different, but I also like to understand and discuss how other people react to films. That's OK isn't it? Maybe a little naive, but I also think that some interesting insights come from asking seemingly obvious questions.

Gere IS good in this, I agree, but I think what struck me as odd about the film (or me) was how little I responded to it and the things that are usually massive triggers for me to blub. That lack of reaction on my part made me feel that perhaps the film lacked a certain ... I don't know, cogency isn't quite the right word, but it'll do. And because of that, my reaction, I felt interested enough to explore how other people came to the film and how they responded to it.

No need to feelsorry for me - I may not have had a dog pine away for me, but I do have the unconditional love of and for my daughter to keep me going. Now that's a powerful thing - I challenge any dog lover to feel what I do every time I look across the breakfast table.

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Sven,

I think you're getting a few odd responses because the question's answers are so obvious.
As you stated, sometimes a naive question will get a good conversation going, but you should also expect a few head scratching replies amongst it all.

I'm a little confused as to how this story didn't captivate you. I've seen movies about different animals that I've never had much of a thought about, like whales, dolphins and such... but still understood the amazing connection between people and animals.

You said you had cats before? I suppose if your only real experience with animals in your life was with a cat(s) you would not get just how different dogs are. I had an ex GF who had one of the coolest cats I've ever known, but most cats, while affectionate... are so on their own schedule.

Dogs are utterly different. A mere facial expression is enough to communicate with a dog. And then relationship with a dog is one like no other. It's great that you love your daughter like you do, but unlike kids, dogs never turn into little evil most erstwhile during their teens. (Mine sure did!) When you hear people speak of unconditional love of a dog, it truly is that. They hold no grudges. You can yell at them for getting into the kitchen garbage can and they will give you the look of sorry until they beat you down. (They're no dummies!)

Anyway, you can probably assume from here on out that any movie starring a loving dog will be rated high by dog lovers.
You also might consider getting a puppy for that daughter of yours. Dogs have an amazing way of teaching empathy and unless your little one is allergic, I have Kitt le doubt she would forever appreciate the gift that dogs are.

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I have a couple of dogs, and while I love my cat more (one dog is actually my sister's, and the other is the family dog, while the cat is mine), I love them very much; and I think dogs are remarkable creatures.

However, I hated this movie. The thought of that dog spending the rest of his life waiting for someone who was NEVER going to show up was depressing. And as a whole, the movie was boring and lacked a decent plot. A man gets a dog, forms a bond with it, dies, and then the dogs waits for the man to come back until IT dies. It's simpler than a Michael Bay film, and slightly less interesting. That's maybe enough plot for a TV movie, but not a full-length one.

Honestly, the fact that this movie has such a high rating is shocking, especially when I can think of a few other films more deserving of being in the top 250.

"I smile 'cause I have no idea what's going on."

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I don't really like people because most in my experience are not decent.

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I love dogs. I lost one to cancer a few years ago. I don't know if it was so much Hachi's loyalty as much as his steadfastness, to approximate it (badly) in human terms.
But yeah, my reaction to the film was affected by my experience with dogs. But personal experience affects almost everyone's reaction to films, I think .

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This is what dog owners want from their pet? That it is so stupidly loyal it pines away and dies? Isn't that a horrible ego thing, surely what you'd want if you loved your dog is that it moved on and found another master or family. It's kinda sick this fetishising of loyalty that includes pointless early death. I know it's a true story, I've seen the statue in real life. But like the other stories of so-loyal-they-be-dead dog tales, it's not inspiring or heart-warming when you think about it. Some dog lovers have cruel fantasies.

On the other hand its hilarious this is the only Richard Gere movie in IMDB's top 250.

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