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That finale goes against everything the show has been about


I think we all remember Ramsay's famous line "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention". The show has always been about anyone could die at any moment, every character you love could die, theres very rarely happy feel good moments, this a cruel world where your hero doesn't always win.

Its like this all throughout the show, then in the finale its all sunshine and rainbows, everyone's story gets a happy little ending with a bow. Kings Landing is now ruled by the happiest friendly people in all of the land, Arya sails off on a boat into the sun, Bran is King, Jon goes back to his free folk to live among the Wildlings.

I dunno i guess its a good ending for those who just wanted everyone to get a happy ending and a rap up for their story. But as fan of the show since the beginning, this ending just felt like a completely different show, this isn't how i ever pictured this show ending in a million years.

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They had to leave us with some hope after what just happened in the previous episodes.

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Ramsay was obviously quoting from his own sadistic experience, from a family that used the process of flaying to terrorise their enemies. I'm glad he and that sort of people are long extinct, now.

Maybe the point of the show was to see how cruel the world was, and how it could be changed for the better? Dany wanted to make the world a better place, but she saw it as better only in her own mind, and never mind the thousands that were sacrificed in blood to get there. She needed to be stopped, as she was from a corrupt bloodline prone to madness. Maybe Jon went to live with the wildlings as he too would be tempted by power and turn to madness, being a Targaryen himself. Maybe he thought the world deserved better.

I was starting to think that Samwell even suggesting the beginnings of democracy was rather far-fetched in this world, even at that stage, and seeing as it was laughed down by everyone else, I was right, and the world wasn't ready for that, yet. But it was the kind of thinking needed, and Sam was the first one to suggest it.

TV shows change from start to finish, if a TV show ended up in a similar way to the start, it wouldn't be great. I mean, what would've been accomplished? What would be the positive message? If there is no positive message, what's the point? Some of the best arc-spanning TV shows like Babylon 5 show how a world can change for the better. And I think Game of Thrones worked out quite well, even if the last season was not well executed.

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