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Good,Bad,Ugly V.S. Good,Bad,Weird

posted 15 years ago by batigoallover
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No doubt the film is a remake of The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly (GBU). As a big fan for Leone's spaghetti westerns, I would like to hear your comparison between the two movies.

My ratings:

Plot: GBU-10,GBW-8.5
Both have GREAT stories, catches your eyes from the first minute to the last, I mean the main story. But GBU has more interesting episodes, or side stories, probably because it's longer. And, the ending of GBU is insurmountable.

Performance: GBU-10, GBW-9
I do love the Ugly and the Weird in both movies, fantastic! The Bads are both impressive. But the Eastwood's Good is definitely much better.

Music: GBU-10 GBW-7
I cannot even find a word to praise Morricone's score in GBU. But GBW offers no impressive music at all. I was waiting for a tune similar to The Esctasy for Gold, when the weird run towards the treasure, but nothing was heard at all, in almost 3 minutes!

Lines: GBU-10 GBW-7.5
GBW doesn't have sth similar interesting dialogues like "there are two kinds of people in the world, my friend, ......"

Action&Humor: GBU-9 GBW-9 (just personal feeling)

As remake is a difficult job, I think GBW is a very successful one! Love them both!

[–] baygerbieger 15 years ago

Aren't all westerns just rip offs of Akira Kurosowa?

I enjoyed this film more on account of it wasn't up it's on arse.

Stand By For Action!

[–] timmy_501 15 years ago

There were Westerns before Kuroaswa began directing so no.

Call me Ishmael.

[–] baygerbieger 15 years ago

Glad we still take everything so literal.

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[–] timmy_501 15 years ago

Me too

Call me Ishmael.

[–] sabialek 13 years ago

What you are talking about is the inspiration bug...D.W. Griffith made Birth of a Nation, and John Ford said "I can do that". John Ford starts making Westerns and Akira Kurosawa tries it with Samurai...then we get the film school brats and Sergio Leone who are inspired by Kurosawa...and then we get films like this that are inspired by Sergio Leone.

[–] baygerbieger 13 years ago

Yeah.

Again glad to see we take everything so literal. Google makes masters of us all. Shame it doesn't do anything in the personality department.

Or does it?!?

Na, no it doesn't.

Wrong to say that I am giving up, right to say that I ain't showing up.

[–] sabialek 13 years ago

Why did you just jump to insults? I was just trying to have a conversation with you and didn't mean for anything to be personal. Sorry if you were offended...but that is seriously a dick move to just make personal attacks like that out of the blue. Can we throw aside the typical internet fights and pointless *beep* and just talk please? I was just trying to make a point. That was it.

[–] baygerbieger 13 years ago

Two posts down has me explaining what I said wasn't meant to be taken literal.

I mean obviously Kurosawa didn't invent or influence all western flicks. More a jab at how GBU is held up on a pedestal for typical cliches/genre fixtures/whatever the eff you want to call them.

Wrong to say that I am giving up, right to say that I ain't showing up.

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[–] gsoropos 15 years ago

I suspect that everyone who favours GBW is under 25 and hasn't yet figured out the difference between a man and a child. GBU is a man's film about men, GBW is about three camp queens that behave like children. Might as well call it priscilla queens of the korean desert

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[–] baygerbieger 15 years ago

And as starded.

Stand By For Action!

[–] Tweekums 15 years ago

Might as well call it priscilla queens of the Korean desert

They were in Manchuria (part of China) not Korea, I don't think there is any desert on Korea, I googled "Korean desert" and just got pages about Korean Desserts

I'd vote for The Good, The Bad and The Ugly as the better film, I've loved it since I first saw it on television back in the 80s... I thought The Good, The Bad, The Weird was funnier though.

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[–] FutureOutlaw 14 years ago

Let me put it this way. GBU is the closest film to perfection any movie can achieve in my opinion. GBW is an amazing film and a worthy remake, but you must be insane if you think it can top the original.

[–] jinu-1 14 years ago

I don't even understand why you're asking for a comparison between these two films.

In short: The Good, The Bad and the Ugly > The Good, The Bad and the Weird.

[–] BillaBongUSA 14 years ago

Let me put it this way. Who gives a *beep*.

[–] RandomHasard 14 years ago

Plot: GBU-8.5,GBW-8
.5 because its the original...

Performance: GBU-8, GBW-10

Music: GBU-10 GBW-8
Hard to beat...

Lines: GBU-7 GBW-8.5
Asians lines are way more cooler than western lines...

Action&Humor: GBU-4 GBW-10
Can't beat asian action nor asian humour...

[–] heelmaster2000 13 years ago

Though both films were excellent I would have to say that Ugly is better then Weird.

[–] TobyCharlesDavies 13 years ago

GBU is a true classic. Sergio Leone invented a new style of cinema and GBU was his crowning achievement. I give GBU a 10/10

GBW was an average action film in my opinion. I'm dissapointed as I know the director is capable of much better. I give GBW 6/10

[–] syd_tf 13 years ago

i dont understand the blind fans of GBU its a 1966 movie, they had limited resources back then, the cinematogarphy og GBU compared to GBW was absolute crap (That is of course if u know what cinematography means). i personally am a huge fan of some of Clint Eastwood's work, Unforgiven tops the list. i don't hate westerns niether do i hate clint eastwood. but i don't get GBU's status as a supreme classic.
Lets get down to Humour, GBW was funny the Wierd was too good. i dont thint while watching GBU i even smiled once.
GBW's music was good, so was GBU's.
Conclusion GBW is better than GBU anyday.

[–] MetalWorks 12 years ago

The "cinematogarphy" on GBU compared to GBW was "absolute crap", that is, if you known, just what the hell "cinematogarphy" is

On the other hand, the cinematography on GBU is just perfect, it was so ahead of its time, that even Korean directors, in the year 2008, rip Leone off

[–] syd_tf 12 years ago

well lovely to have an expert in our midst. please tell us all What the hell cinematograpgy means, whilw you are at it please also tell us how do you define "perfect"??

if you may be so kind.

[–] MetalWorks 12 years ago

Its the art of taking several pictures in just seconds, creating movement in the process. Its the means to obtain good whites, grays and blacks in every single frame. Its the art of making light and shadow paint the faces of the actors and places, using them as narrative elements; making them feel larger than life, or tiny, or moody. Its the art that makes the use camera focus, just another expresive tool to tell stories and human psychology.

Cinematography is the blend of six different arts as one, the most evolved state of art and expresion, that we humans ever created.

And Sergio Leone shooted "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" with so much virtuosity, that every single frame in that movie its a manifest, a paradigm of what Cinematography means; a new standard of what its considered by many photographers as one of the most aesthetic and perfectly shooted footage ever created.

If you take every single shot in that movie, and you put it to a test, you'll find that the luminosity and the chromaticity are so perfectly done, that you won't believe the picture was filmed in 1966. The compositional elements of every single shot are so eye appealing, that can be treated as paintings.

This is why I believe that GBU has a "perfect" cinematography. Of course its my opinion, but this is how you make an opinion in any type of discussion; you present logical arguments, not jugement de valeur.

[–] tvandfilmbuff 11 years ago

If I may quote Eastwood's The Good, "Bravo."

If you wrote that definition yourself, it's one of the best posts I've read on the IMDb. I agree with every word you wrote of GBU's cinematography.

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[–] sealug 10 years ago

Best post in thread.