He was excited about the restaurant and she gave up on him so quick cause of a new crush.
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not really i would of dumped him too. annoying accent,not cute,inlove with food and not her,self absorbed.. yeah.. doesnt sound like the perfect bf.
sharethat's funny cause my friend and I were commenting on the fact that she was so bland and boring and people like that usually end up with guys who run the show.
Yeah, the mexican guy should've read her story but I wouldn't have minded my boyfriend who's opening up an Italian restaurant using some of his time researching Italian food in italy! I don't think "love" is having to spend every second of the day together. When she said "we should want to be together ALL THE TIME" I kind of gagged- like what kind of co-dependent relationship is that?? No thanks!
No, I don't think it's all like that.
I mean, she was right when she said that they spent their whole vacation away from each other and neither of them minded. That was obviously a sign their marriage probably wouldn't have worked out too well. So, I think it's good for both of them. And I bet her fiance would probably find a girl as passionate about cooking as he was, because that would work out much better for both of them.
I see your point, but he NEVER asked her what SHE wanted to do. He was nice, but very self absorbed.
shareYeah..I got her frustrations with him, but I didn't agree about "all the time", either. Not healthy. However, he didn't seem to care that they spent NO time together. And when they were together, he had little to no interest in anything she had to say. They made that obvious.
shareWell when you are pre-honeymooning, you would think that they both would want to spend every moment together instead of alone in a city as beautiful as Italy.
shareApparently you have never been in the honeymoon phase of being in love, or it was a very different experience for you at any rate.
Certainly, when people are married or together for a long time, it is VITAL that they each have separate friends, interests, time, etc. She is not actually advocating the type of smothering you are obviously inferring here. When you are engaged and planning a wedding, if your significant other can't spend 5 seconds with you and want to spend every moment without you and they don't even notice, that should be a red flag. She was talking about the can't keep my hands off, can't be away from you a second feeling you have in the beginning stages of love where they were supposed to be at. He skipped to the part after you're married 20 years and basically ignore each other. LOL If he had read her letter, he would have gotten sauce on it. Then said, hey look how good my sauce is. How about let's forget EVERYTHING you want to see in Italy so I can do EVERYTHING I WANT TO DO WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT YOU FOR ONE SECOND...That was who her fiance was.
Btw, why does everyone keep referring to him as The Mexican guy and all that crap? This is getting ridiculous.
As for boring, she was not boring. She was young, idealistic, and romantic. She was different than I am in a lot of ways, but I could see through her eyes long enough to see that she is in that stage of "I have all these plans and I want to do all of these things and learn about the world." Try to understand how young she is and how much she needs that exploration as part of her maturation as a woman; particularly one who has lost her parents and is basically alone in the world.
I really did not. I found him quite annoying myself.
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I thought that the boyfriend had some redeeming qualities. His passion for his work and his love for different elements of the city (wineries, auctions, etc.) were really quite endearing. He seemed to enjoy having Sophie around and acknowledged her beauty and sweetness. However, he seemed to care very little about Sophie's endeavors. His phone was always at the ready, as if the person at the other end of the line was more important than the girl standing right next to him.
That being said, Charlie wasn't perfect either. Even in his tenderest moments there is a hint of elitism which I found a bit excruciating. However, his genuine interest in Sophie and her quest to learn more about Lorenzo showed that he would be more involved in the relationship than Victor ever could be. I think that I do feel an initial pang of sympathy for Victor when Sophie chooses Charlie, but I could see her reasoning. I also think that he took it pretty well considering what had happened. He seemed hurt, but he didn't try to change her mind. I think his most likable moment came when he let her go.
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heck no!!!
"I'm not afraid of you. I'm only afraid of losing you. I feel like you're gonna disappear."
He ALWAYS had her on the back burner. I don't think he was really in love with her.
I didn't feel sorry for him at all. sure he was passionate about his restaurant
and she did try hang out and do the wine tasting but really he could care less if she was there or not! and she didn't give up on Victor because of Charlie. Victor cared more about food then her, he didn't even read her article when she placed it on his nightstand, it showed he cared little for what she did, and just wanted her to care about what he did.
what i liked about her character is she didn't want him to change cause that's what she fell in love with ,but she is the one who grew and changed.
Hey wait! I get it! FRENCH CLASS
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No, he was all about himself and like he told her, he wasn' going to change. He just needed a 'trophy' wife or GF.
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MixedDrink wrote: "No, he was all about himself and like he told her, he wasn' going to change. He just needed a 'trophy' wife or GF."
Or a love affair with Eric Northman. hehe
Thousands of people would pay for the experiences he was offering her. Why would someone who had no interest in food agree to marry a chef.
sharePersonally, I agree with fldelk. I would have been in heaven going to the vineyards and tasting the cuisine. I'm a bit of a foodie so I couldn't understand why she was so upset at the experience. I mean, he's a chef, so he's going to love food. She obviously had no passion for food. It's a good thing that they broke up since neither was all that interested in what the other was passionate about.
I should add that I really think that if I was in her shoes I would have said something to him. Instead of constantly saying "ok" and acting like it didn't bother me, I would tell him he needed to spend some time doing what I wanted. He was being selfish, but only because she never told him "no" or told him to shut up and listen to her.
Thank you for asking this! I was really pissed off about this part of the movie. The guy is opening up a restaurant; of course he's a little pre-occupied. I even wrote a blog about it at:
http://chubbyhamster.xanga.com/727310282/the-other-man-in-%E2%80%9Cletters-to-juliet%E2%80%9D/
Basically, the guy supported her completely telling her to pursue her writing even when she was dejected. Then she goes and ruins what was probably the best day of his life.
Yeah he supported Sophie's writing, but he never showed any real interest in it. He didn't even read her article. It's completely fair that he has his own dreams, but he just blathered on about himself all the time. I did feel a bit sorry for him when she broke it off. He had this deer-in-the-headlights look, but Charlie deserved her, not him.
shareOh please, Victor was selfish as hell! He was the one ready to ditch her to do his own thing on his honeymoon. Where I blame Sophie is for not standing up to him sooner, she allowed this to happen by just staying mum and letting him run all over the place on HIS business trip. Because, let's call it what it is, he was on a business trip not his supposed honeymoon.
So the whole 'poor fiancee thing', is really romanticizing a situation that shouldn't be romanticized. Victor put himself first, second and third. He only supported her writing because it was convenient to him, it got her out of his hair so he could do whatever he wanted. And the whole mushroom thing, it was obvious that it showed her passive aggressiveness for her discontent at the situation. Like I stated earlier, where Sophie went wrong is that she should have just have the guts to be assertive and confront him about it earlie. They would have been finito much sooner.
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What was the trip really about for Victor?
As what kind of “supplies” do these suppliers really supply that he’s going to visit? He even says twice to Sophia, “this isn’t just about the restaurant”. Odd. And seeing that he was always extremely hyper, on edge, or out of breath. I'd say he was smuggling drugs. Ut-oh!
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Not at all. I can't even imagine how she would like him in the first place. Money maybe?
shareI was not really sorry for him at all...the fact that he was so supprised by her breaking up with him really made me realize he didn't understand one thing about being in a realationship. There are times in a realationship that the two people should spend some alone time but when two people are on their "honeymoon" that is when they should want to be together all the time. He had no interest in that what-so-ever. If my fiance ignored me on our honeymoon I would be very upset because that is a time for two people to spend time together away from everyone else they know.
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Yeah, I saw it again last night and realised I don't really feel sorry for him at all. He says that the reason they didn't spend time together was because she was off doing her writing and he understood. Grrr! I agree, he doesn't know what it means to be in a relationship.
shareHe wasn't supposed to be a real person, he was a plotline to get Sophie to end up with Charlie.
If was a 3 dimensional person, he would have been more complex (and not just thinking solely about food). How could you date someone for years (the movie reveals that they were engaged for a year) and then just blithely say "I not changing for you" so easily.
Victor was written like they were never really an engaged couple and his purpose was to be the loser in the love triangle.
I know foodies and people who own restaurants and even they would say that the Victor character was completely unbelievable.