We're supposed to believe that the most famous woman of that time hooked up with a Charles Grey that is two inches taller than her, not particularly attractive, and has a high voice. Give us a good romantic lead, people.
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Yes, Henry Cavill would have been a perfect choice!
sharehenry cavill would have been perfect.. good thinking
shareOMG I WOULD UNDERSTAND FOR EYE CANDY WISE CHOOSE SOME1 ELSE. HONESTLY I AM SHOCKED MOST PPL DIDNT THINK HE WAS CUTE AT ALL. I THOUGHT HE LOOK MUCH BETTER W/O HIS WIG AND I LIKED HIM HE'S NOT SUPER GOOD LOOKING AND I AM HAPPY THEY DIDNT GO FOR THAT. IF THEY WOULD HAVE CHOSEN HENRY CAVILL I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THIS TO B LESS BELIEVABLE AND MORE CORNY ROMANCE THAN SOMETHING REAL LIKE HOW I FELT.
I THOUGHT THE 2 ACTORS HAD ENUFF CHEMISTRY BETWEEN THEM TO MAKE ME BELIEVE. THEY'RE FIRST TIME TOGETHER SHOULD B PROOF OF THAT. AND I REALLY DONT AGREE W RP LOOKING BETTER THAN HIM BUT I GUESS ITS ALL TASTE AND NOT TO MENTION I WAS COULDN'T STAND THE DUKE SO THAT'S WHY I DIDNT LIKE HIM N THE LEAST BIT.
I didn't find him that attractive either.
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Dominic Cooper didnt ruin the film for me, but it was semi hard to see why Georgiana would be so attracted to him. Granted in the biography the film was based on said that Grey was handsome more handsome than the duke, but I found Ralph Fiennes to be more attractive than him. I also didnt care for Cooper's acting. Sometimes he went overboard. I do agree Henry Cavill would have been perfect, or Jim Sturgess. Someone more brooding and more mature.
shareI too thought RF was hotter than DC, even though he's a lot older. I think he was miscast.
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The one who was miscast was Ralph Fiennes but I'm saying so in a good way because he is so hot and attractive that he would have overshadowed anyone who played Charles Grey.
Ralph Fiennes is the sexiet actor alive so it's impossible for me to watch someone hotter, maybe the only one who could have competed with him was Daniel Day Lewis.
So Dominic wasn't miscast, the problem is competing against Ralph Fiennes who is the perfect combination of talent and looks.
There are other talented and good looking actors but they just can't Compete with Ralph Fiennes.
Ralph fieness is not that attractive for me. I prefer Cooper.
I just watched the film again. I thought Cooper was very well cast in the role, although he didn't look at all like the real Charles Grey. But nor did Keira Knightley look at all like the real Georgiana. The 18th century liked full-bodied, bosomy women, and the real Georgiana, in all her portraits, matched the 18th century beauty ideal. I rather doubt Georgiana's contemporaries would have admired Knightley with her flat bosom and bony collarbones.
But the main reason I thought Cooper was good in the role is that he exuded warmth and spontaneity, precisely the qualities Georgiana wasn't finding at all with the Duke. Fiennes may in fact be more physically attractive than Cooper but that's not what she wanted.
Well I think Dominic was good-looking. Some people do. But most don't. But she liked him for more than just his looks, as the Duke pointed out, they were both "dreamers".
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I didn't so much mind Dominic Cooper's mediocre looks, but they should have found an actor that Keira Knightley had a little chemistry with. The lovers had absolutely no fire for me.
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I think Dominic Cooper is gorgeous. I much prefer him to Ralph Fiennes. He is a good actor, going from Sky in Mamma Mia, to Saddam Hussein's son and his bodyguard, via Charles Grey!
shareCharles Grey was not attractive. He was short and heavy and a political figure, not a "romantic" lead. In fact, I would've been disappointed had they cast a good-looking actor.
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There was absolutely no chemistry between these two. None.
I agree. What have looks to do with it?
shareI actually liked it that he wasn't the typical good-looking guy they'd normally pick. I believe that the connection between Georgiana and him was supposed to go deeper - they sympathised on so many levels: personality, political views, etc. and he was kind and loving to her.
And he wasn't that ugly either :)
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The real Mr Gray was ugly as sin as old as dirt compared to Georgianna. He was BALD at the top of his head, tall & slim. There's a painting of him which of course Georgianna wasnt that glamorous either but than this was back before Caucasians started becoming mixed w/ alot off different races.
shareas allison points out, georgiana was actually older than grey by several years. the portrait of grey you mention (there are a couple i'm familiar with) is from the early-nineteenth century, ca. 1810s at the earliest, well after the plot of "the duchess" ends. i'm not quite sure what you mean in your last sentence, but georgiana was considered particularly glamourous for the period, as her portraits still convey today. i don't even know what you're trying to get at with describing the period as "back before Caucasians started becoming mized w/alot (read: a lot) off different races."
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Now I havent seen The Duchess yet, (it's next on my list) but after watching Mamma Mia I fell madly in love with Dominique Cooper!! He's not traditionally handsome but there is something definitively sexty about him, at least for me. Mmm mmm.
shareI meant sexy..not sexty. Although that should be a quite fitting term for a hot older man. "SEXTY"
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It is the first time i see this actor on television and here i am sleepy tired and still here i;m chatting on CHARLES GREY... i thought his character was fantastic...
very active, emotional and the Duchess she wasnt afraid of speaking and he didnt back up like the Duke would when G was too open.
I dont believe they had more chemistry than her with the actor in Atonement... but there was something about this couple that made me think of having an affair hahaha...
I think he is gorgeous.
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Cooper is HOT! I really don't see how most people don't find him attractive. He's so hugable and kissable, I think it's the incredibly sexy eyes and cute round mouth.
He is cuter than James McAvoy (Atonement) and Matthew Macfadyen (Pride and Prejudice), but somehow she did have the least chemistry with Cooper. Looks aren't everything, after all...
Keira is not that pretty either, but she is an incredible actress and she can create chemistry with a snap of her fingers. Cant wait to see Anna Karenina...
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The scene where G. and the Duke are first going to have sex was supposed to be awkward. It was supposed to be contrasted with the scene where G. and Grey are happily in bed together post-coitus.
Fiennes was too sexy, though. Cooper was miscast, indeed. I don't care if Grey was balding in real life. Fiennes has a receding hairline and he was sexier. There are plenty of sexy balding men out there -- just look at Hugh Laurie!
Films always glamorize these things. They couldn't do it with the male lead here?
This is the first movie I've seen Dominic Cooper play in that I can remember - haven't seen Mamma Mia yet. During the opening scene where you're first introduced to Charles Grey, I didn't think Cooper was attractive at all. Plus, that hideous wig that he had to wear through most of the movie did nothing for him. BUT...there was something about him I did like. He became attractive.
Also, I normally thing Ralph Fiennes is attractive, but the very first sex scene between him and G made things so awkward and his whole attitude through the movie disgusted me so I couldn't be attracted to him anymore. After the forced scene between him and G, I really hated his character.
I think that's called good acting - making people see past what's on the outside and seeing the character they're portraying. I thought both leading men did great jobs. :o)
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I actually thought Fiennes brought some humanity to the Duke. Sure, he was 'evil' by our standards today, but by the standards of the time, he was doing what every 'gentleman' was doing. Affairs were common and wives were expected to put up with them.
In the end we see them sort of make up, and I heard (albeit on the internet) that the Duke really did love her.
OK I finally watched The Dutchess and I'm still on the Dominique Bandwagon...when they were in bed in Bath and he was looking at her from the side it was the same look he gave Sophie in Mamma Mia that made me reel. Bravo job of showing his love for Georgiana. *sigh* so cute! But I'm not surprised I find him attractive since I usually tend to be attracted to people with a unique and not traditionally handsome look.
Cant wait to go online and look up the back story..loved the movie.
Plus, that hideous wig that he had to wear through most of the movie did nothing for him.
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Dominic Cooper is a bit of a minger facially speaking - he does have a great body though as do most very ugly men who are actors - it helps detract from their minging faces as can be evidenced in Mamma Mia but as this was "The Duchess" he didn't get his kit off that much.
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