The scene where Eckhart's character removes his bloodied fingers from Jasira's trousers - oh my God. My mouth literally fell open with shock and, being a woman, I had to actually cross my legs. Then I had to pause the movie and walk around for a couple of minutes. I'm not even joking.
seriously, the thought of a full grown man doing that to a 13 year old - blows my mind.
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That's kinda f^cked up how you assume that a woman made a man corrupted like that. And it's also f^cked up you blame FEMALE teachers and MOTHERS for the way they were brought up. What the hell do you have this based off on?
And what about the fathers/male teachers? Oh wait, they wouldn't even think of doing such harm like that cause it's the women to blame. You could've handled your reply towards that girl gracefully, and yet, you just continued a cycle of sexist bashing. I'm disappointed in all of you.
I'm movin' past the feeling and into the night
I was totally freaked out by that scene. That guy creeps me out. I know he was just acting, but if I ever see him in anything else, this is all I'm gonna envision.
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I felt so uncomfortable as well! It was so creepy! >.<
shareWords cannot even describe how much I despise the replies by males on this thread. I find that their defence is to attack women with no justification. Instead it's just one childish insult after another. Replies like jbobmall's really disgust me.
I also hate the way some men think the insults are uncalled for. Okay, yeah, females do bad things too - but let's admit it, the majority of people who do evil things are men. This is not the same as saying most men are evil, although that may very well be true. But when a female says that, all males react by degrading her, even though males are not an outstanding gender in any way. Oh but when they denigrate females, it's totally justified. F@cking repulsive. I get that not all men are evil or disgusting. But, seriously, let's be honest, on some level a lot of them are. Just stop acting like you're all saints and that you treat women with the respect they deserve. Females aren't perfect either, but I find that most of them are certainly better people.
I only do it with superheroes.
if a man said those things about a woman it would be deemed sexist, but a woman saying them about a man is fine? that's hardly the equality women seem to be searching for.
Be as thou wast wont to be, See as thou wast wont to see...
True. It makes me a hypocrite. It's a double-edged sword. But I'm trying to defend my own gender. Honestly, men attack women way more than women attack men, in every sense of the word. We have it hard enough already but some men insist on always making it more difficult. My anger turned my defence into an attack, but on some level I think an attack on an attack is justified. It's practically a defence, in a roundabout way.
I only do it with superheroes.
Shut up.
You really think women have it that difficult? Oh yeah, all those innocent women getting screwed by the judicial system by their conniving ex-husbands stealing their money in divorce courts? Or how about all those innocent women being sent out to war by a mandatory draft to die for their country? Or how about all those innocent women dying from black lung due to coal mining every year or any other dangerous job that men take, because women won't, in order to survive? Oh yeah, that's right, that only happens to MEN. NEWS FLASH, you DON'T have it that difficult. Feminists and "womyns" groups falsify statistics and BS you into believing you do when you actually have it MUCH EASIER than men. If you want to talk about his child molestation case, why don't we talk about Debra Lafave or all of those other female teachers that have molested young boys? You know why? Because society deems females EXEMPT on virtually all charges because there's always some stupid feminist on the sidelines ready to make up excuses for her.
Men and women virtually commit the same amount of violent crimes against one another, yet when a WOMAN does it, there's some 'excuse' ready for her about how shes a 'poor innocent victim' in all of this. This is why there's a HUGE backlash against women from men and it's only getting stronger. BS statements like yours are only going to make this backlash stronger and you know who I have my money on in winning this gender war? The gender that has developed, built and created society as we know it. Men.
Oh sure, I'll shut up because you told me to. Pffft. I'll shut up when you grow up.
Your claims that women have it easy and that men suffer the most are laughable. Your statements are as ludicrous to me as you claim mine are to you. But, let's be honest, I don't expect a better perspective from a misogynistic male. I'm glad I've riled you up enough for you to post only your fifth post in six years, but I really can't be bothered arguing with a chauvinist. Ignored.
I only do it with superheroes.
Oh no, I'm a 'misogynistic' male' because I don't believe in feminist rhetoric or literature teaching women that anything can the world should cater to women. It's funny how, instead of actually arguing/debating, you just shame the other person as a 'chauvinist' you pretend like none of my points have merit. Go ahead and ignore me, it just shows how terrified you are of actually debating any of my points.
shareI think it's interesting that this scene made some of you cringe and/or feel uncomfortable. Even though it is just a movie, some of you decided to take it personally by allowing Ball's direction to "penetrate" your spirit... almost as if you are ashamed, embarassed, or confused... much like the girl in the film. Personally, I think that is just a sign of good writing, and instead of being repulsed by it, you should enjoy that fact that it brought about such emotion without any real consiquence. You can be happy, sad, repulsed, turned on, turned off, disgusted, curious, empathetic, whatever... because after two hours, the movie is done, and all you have left is your real life, whatever the reality is that you choose for yourself. Isn't that one of the compelling aspects of movies? Feeling ways that are not typical for us? The illusion of being pulled out of our comfort zones? I am jealous of the OP, because I am so desensitized, I would love to see a movie that "shocks" me, or makes me actually get up out of my seat.... you know what I think is the bee's knees? When a movie can make you cry. Now THATS some good stuff, when you you just let it out... then the movie ends, and you are back in reality, but you got to feel something so dramatic, or so powerful, that you usually do not feel. Back in the day, a hundred years ago, before movies were widespread... men and women were prompted to go on vast, incredible, life changing journeys into distant lands (the average person could not read either, back then, so novels, or other early forms of narrative such as poetry, were a luxury only afforded to the upper class)... so people would go on these epic journeys just to feel something. anything. if they were lucky, they would learn something... about themselves, or the world around them.
in 2011, we can take these journeys in our living rooms. we can become "shocked", or dumbfounded, or horrified, or overcome with joy, all at the push of a button.... in the safety of our own homes. I think it would be a bad thing if Eckhart's hand actually came through the screen. But technology is not quite there yet, even though you react as if the scene was something more than just an image on a screen.
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