Soy Sauce
I would like to ask any doctors, paramedics, biologists, nurses, etc. What would really happen to a person who mainlines a few cc's of soy sauce?
(Please excuse me if this has already been asked)
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shareI'm no expert but I would think that just the sodium content of the soy sauce injected directly into the blood stream would kill you.
shareI'm pretty sure it would kill you. You can't even inject water directly into your veins without your saline levels dropping very low.
shareThe way Nick held the needle he might've just injected the soy sauce into his musculature. Though I don't really know what it might do there I think eventually the body would just absorb it in a way. Some people inject themselves with dirtwater or other crap, directly into the veins to hurt themselves but not to kill them. They do it like other people cut on their arms. And even they don't die ...most of the time. The human body can deal with a lot of dirt before eventually breaking down.
shareI've known people who have injected whiskey and survived, although from the descriptions they've given me it was not a pleasant experience.
I imagine soy sauce would just make a person tastier.
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"few cc's of soy sauce"
"mainline"
And all the white bloodcells would go "wtf is this? mmm tasty."
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You can't even inject water directly into your veins without your saline levels dropping very low.
That's not necessarily true. You would do damage to your blood cells if you injected something like a litre of water for injection, but 20mls (which is what it looked like to me) would do little harm.
Now soy sauce... that's a totally different story
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Probably the equivalent of a fat embolus... which means you're likely to die.
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well, i am not sure. I know injecting air is lethal.
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in an adult it's in the order of 60mls of air that is lethal. Small amounts of air are just absorbed.
60mls of air is a LOT. I mean, your standard syringe that you get your innoculation for the Flu is probably about 3mls, so it's like injecting 20 flu vaccines into your blood stream.
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You would not die, but you would be--ehm--uncomfortable.
shareMainlining is one thing but he could have missed the actual vein, if you injected something like that under the skin it would hurt like hell but most likely not kill you.
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kinda funny how someone can think injecting soy sauce into your veins will automatically kill you yet ppl inject herion for years and live.
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A lot of the fears about what you can and can't inject are myths. For example, in the remake of The Omen, Mia Farrow causes one small air bubble to travel down Julia Stiles' IV which kills her seconds after entering her bloodstream. I've called a nurse over because I once had dozens of air bubbles in my own IV, and she explained they were harmless, which I'm living proof of. As for the Soy Sauce, it probably wouldn't be that good for you, but as has been pointed out people routinely inject much worse (I've known people who hit up wine, for example). Moreover, it didn't appear that Nick "mainlined" it into his vein anyway. He probably just injected it under the skin where it would have slowly been absorbed. I don't know, but I would guess its sodium content would be similar to that of the blood anyway.
shareWell m a doctor. An IM injection of soy sauce can cause sever allergic reaction leading to death. It can also turn into abscess and just local allergy. Abscess can b drained later so won't lead to death. So outcome depends on individual, as everyone's power of immunity is different from others...one may sustain few cc's of one drug pretty well and other can die from it by getting into anaphylactic shock.
shareI don't think 20 cc of soy sauce is going to kill you...probably at most, the sodium might disrupt homeostasis (the balance of water and sodium particles moving in and out of cells) and kill some cells in the process. Or...maybe you just die and remove yourself from the gene pool. :)
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Or maybe throughout the entire scene he held the soy sauce under his skin with his telekinetic ability and kept it from being absorbed at all.
No that is probably too complicated.
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You're thinking too hard, along with half of this thread. He clearly(going by the film) injected the needle as it was meant to be injected, Carver stood 5 feet from him watching.
Truth is the writers didn't think half as hard as the people posting here did, seeing as how they didn't even bother lying to us about what would happen to him after the injection.
my thoughts exactly, we are supposed to think he didn´t miss the vein
shareI personally think that amount of soy sauce is not going to kill anybody when injected into their veins unless they're allergic to it. It's not intended to be used as poison, after all.
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shareI doubt you're a doctor. You couldn't even pass English class.
shareIf you injected Soy Sauce?
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I'm going to assume he simply injected it into his body, not into the veins. If it wasn't in the vein, I would assume it would be absorbed eventually by the body.
My theory is based on a hospital visit where my IV slipped out of the vein and the resulting IV fluid was simply absorbed by my body.
as a few others have said I think many are looking too deep into this. Injecting something into ones veins is one thing for sure, air bubbles or a wide variety of things would be lethal or extremely dangerous, but just injecting something into muscle tissue is quite another thing.
That said I would not expect injecting soy sauce into muscle tissue to be a "oh just go about your day and laugh about it" kind of thing and I'm guessing at the very least it would make you sick or get a bad infection. So how they portray it in the movie so nonchalantly I think is a bit silly.
And even that said I have a hard time believing any director would introduce something like that into the movie without at least doing some sort of medical consolation prior and if it were deadly I'm sure they would have thought to use something else less deadly...
Everyone in this thread is pretty uninformed about this topic, fortunately for them. I've personally seen people use puddle water, windshield washer fluid and just about anything that is wet(name a beverage) enough to dilute heroin or coke enough to mix and inject it. While it's not an ideal thing to do people do it all the time and keep on living. Also small air bubbles don't do a damn thing to you, a 100 unit/1CC/1ml insulin syringe full of air won't kill you.
Soy sauce I've no experience with, but it wouldn't do anything as long as it went into the vein and not under the skin which is the complete opposite of what people here seem to believe. If you miss the vein then you risk abscess, I've seen addicts that couldn't find a vein for sh!t and developed nightmarish infections from missing continually. When something is under the skin the body doesn't filter it away very quickly(especially if it's something weird), when it's in the vein it's diluted immediately as it's pumped through the body and kidneys.
People often break down crack with vinegar in order to make it injectable and the only thing it does is bring a strong vinegar taste in the back of the throat and mouth, but then again anything you inject that isn't saline or water will give you a specific taste in your mouth, soy would be pretty salty I imagine.
Just curious, under what circumstances did you see people inject with puddle water?
Also how can you have access to windshield washer fluid but not tap water?