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This series sure is cynical about religion.

posted 14 years ago by Screen-7
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"Wire in the Blood" sure makes religion seem creepy and dangerous.

I'm a religious person and am well-aware that lots of evil is done in the name of religion -- so I don't resent TV shows portraying those stories.

However, "Wire in the Blood" doesn't counterbalance it with good religious characters.

The only exception I can remember is that the Hermione Norris character insinuates she is Catholic in season two (I think) -- it's like a five second scene but better than nothing I suppose. .

Other than that -- religion is creepy creepy creepy.

(I haven't watched the whole series, so maybe it gets better in season three.)

Anyone else notice this?

[–] ctyler_lives 14 years ago

you should take some of tony hill's advice and realise all religion is just complete fantasy originating from a time when humans had no understanding of science, and more importantly themselves

in other words; once the mind of early man evolved enough to become "self aware" of both himself and his surroundings, he developed various belief systems revolving around the supernatural to justify to himself how the existence of the world and everything in it came to be. now that we are in an age where the origins of everything can be explained scientifically. you should have second thoughts about, not only your own, but all religion in general.

wire in the blood presents this perfectly. especially in season 5 and 6. happy viewing :)

[–] Screen-7 14 years ago

Nonsense.
Pure bigoted nonsense.

There is nothing incompatible between science and religion. In fact, many of the great pioneering scientists believed in God. Many of the great current scientists likewise.

[–] roreyking (567) 2 years ago

“Nothing incompatible btw science & religion “? ROTFL!!! Shall we start with evolution?

[–] dbeierl 14 years ago

Anyone else notice this?

Yes. It comes and goes, but it never leaves. Someone had an ax to grind, I think. But you have to remember that the whole thing is fiction, y'know?

Yours,
David

[–] andreapmh 14 years ago

Is there anything from the entertainment industry that isn't cynical or downright negative about religion? I fairly expect that from all film/tv nowadays.

[–] You_Knew_Me_Once 14 years ago

The pendulum of popular thought has swung from ZOMG GOD IS TEH WIN to ZOMG SCIENCE IS TEH WIN.

Really, one does not necessarily exclude the other. Part of the interesting thing about being human is the fact that we are fully capable of embracing two seemingly conflicting belief/logic systems at the same time.

Plenty of modern scientists are atheist or agnostic and plenty are religious/spiritual. How WITB portrays religion is debatable as it is by its nature and intent a very gritty and raw depiction of terrible crimes.

Me? I don't mind but I'm not spiritual in any way.

Y'know what's an even more interesting question? What's the psychopath got in the bag Jason? - CM

[–] vivien-11 14 years ago

Naahh I don't see that at all. It's an intentionally dark & creepy show about crazy & dangerous serial killers, some of whom have twisted religious motives/influences. And they were all mentally unsound to begin with. No one in their right mind would base their perception of religion on the actions of fictional socio/psychopaths.

The lead character seems to be an atheist based on what he says in a whopping 1 or 2 episodes. Not really the point of the series aside from providing some character development.

It would just be insulting to people's intelligence for the writers to contrive to somehow spell out that schizophrenic/sociopathic/psycho serial murderers are not representative of religious people in general...kind of like wanting Law & Order SVU to show more consensual sex so that people really get that not all sex is rape.

[–] bogwart-1 14 years ago

Why does it need a counter-balance? We don't wear our beliefs on our sleeves like Americans - people don't feel the need for a continuous drone in the background.

That is not said to be offensive; it's a fact. In Europe some people believe in organised religion, most don't. In many parts of the US if you don't declare a belief in (insert name of religion) you are shunned.

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[–] bogwart-1 12 years ago

Did I say most people? No, I didn't. And people I know from the Carolinas are the people I was thinking of, and I know several
of them. You may well be a hugh (sic) nation but I don't see what that has to do with anything. India has many more people and they don't
parade their religion like many Americans, China has more than four times your population and the same applies to them.

You need to lighten up. If I say the comment was not designed to be offensive that's exactly what I mean. It's pretty
offensive of you to turn around and accuse me of being deceitful.

No, I haven't been to your country, and wouldn't do so if you paid for a first-class return ticket. The kind of
attitude shown by you and yours is big-headed and distasteful, and far too common for my liking. So stuff that, and stuff Canada
too. Why should I care that you're circling the drain?

Your reply is typical of a person who reads a post and decides she knows what I mean. You don't. Get over
yourself.

[–] nut-meg 14 years ago

Maybe true, but most people are cynical about religion in some way or another, whether that be all religion, or just religions that aren't their own.

But too, it's a show about serial killers. Very frequently serial killers will have a religious fanaticism, particularly if the killer is schizophrenic.

[–] nut-meg 14 years ago

[–] Backlot_Manager 13 years ago

Considering the writer of the books, I'd expect anything based on her books to be seriously cynical regarding any organized religion.