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Biggest ripoff copy since the Lion King


If any of you have seen the Japanese animation Nadia, You'll know what I mean. I just happened to come across it 5 years since its release, but I still remember watching Nadia as a kid so I actually went through the whole series again just to confirm my thoughts and yup....a real copycat. Don't get me wrong it really is a good animated film. But couldn't those guys at Disney come up with something more original? I know for example that the guys at Pixar always come up with something real nice and original but these guys....I guess they just ran out.

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You're all wrong. Atlantis was a complete rip-off of Stargate. Educate yourselves.
http://rip-offornot.com/SGATL0003.php?action=results&poll_ident=6


Strike one, Joss.

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Pod educate yourself. Nadia came out in 1989, 5YEARS before Stargate, so that means Stargate stole ideas from Nadia. Read the movie connections on the side , it even lists Castle in the Sky and Nadia as connections.


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2604794/

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What the fück are you talking about? Stargate has a completely different plot than Nadia. While I have no doubt Stargate picked up some influence from somewhere along the way and while Nadia and Atlantis are somewhat comparable, it's because they both are influenced by 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, which itself also features Atlantis. Stargate is about Egypt and aliens. Kill yourself. Now.

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I think someone is taking the message board too seriously...


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2604794/

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No argument about who originated the story from me. Both nadia and atlantis clearly were inspired by the same thing. Garbage.

The fact is this: The characters in atlantis look *beep* EXACTLY like the characters in nadia. Nadia came out WAY before atlantis. End of story, what's the goddamn confusion? The disney artists designed teh characters based DIRECTLY off the nadia series. That's not a problem or a concern. Who gives a *beep*

Now, it would make a difference if disney said "what? We've never seen nadia" when practically the entire cast of characters is a carbon copy mimic of the other. A reasonable person cannot deny they wear the same outfits. It is 100% completely impossible for there to be nobody on the atlantis staff who was aware of what had been done by the nadia staff. It's just been proven beyond any reasonable doubt for anybody with half a brain that merely looks at even 2 of the 11-12 character rip-offs! There's sites showing the characters from both and it's beyond "similar" guys. Like I said, though a different artist did each, they're the same exact goddamn characters. It ain't "vaguely" and it doesn't "closely" resemble them. They ARE them.

This is the only movie in the history of the planet that I've know that is a remake of something and is trying to say it's original. Tomorrow, I'm going to make a new brand of Soda. It's called Firsty. It looks, smells, tastes and affects you exactly the same as coca cola does, but it came out FIRST!

In the end, Nadia and Atlantis are both so goddamn stupid that nobody should ever care about where either came from. By far....and I mean a WIDE margin....Atlantis is the worst Disney movie of all time, even worse than some of the direct-to-DVD princess movies. Atlantis is utterly forgettable.

However: Props to the DVD menu. Wow. Sweet.

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So? early anime got some of it's material from early Disney movies like Snow White and Bambi. I watched a small documentary on Anime when it was on "On Demand". (actually, I recorded it. I'd put it on the internet, but I don't know how)

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This is true. Disney admitted they ripped off something for the Lion King...Bambi and Hamlet. They were in a stage where they looked at there old movies and try to improve the story plot. Geez anime shouldn't even put to comparison to American cartoon. Although now a days we see a bit in American cartooning now, it's not like JAPANESE cartooning influenced Disney.

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Yes because God forbid the creators of such original works as:
-Tarzan
-Alise in wonderland
-Beauty and the beast
-Pinocio
-Cinderella
-Pochahantas
-The Little Mermaid
-The Sword in the stone
-Alladin
-Sleeping Beauty
-Snow white
-101 dalmations

make such an unoriginal movie.
Face it few if any of the disney classic animated movies are original.
But they are still awesome.

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Firstly, while Atlantis is different in many ways to Nadia, on a very basic level their plots are very much the same.

The cast of Atlantis are mainly original. It seems blatantly clear though that the characters of Milo and Kida are based, in terms of design, off Jean and Nadia. When you couple the striking visual similarities with the plot connections, it's hard not to think some people in the creative team of Atlantis were a little 'inspired' by the earlier work. The similarities of the story role and visual design of the blue crystals possessed by the female leads are also way too close for me to believe this is all chance.

Anyone who believes the excuse of the directors that they had never heard of Nadia is kidding themselves. Before a Disney animated film goes into production, EXTENSIVE research is carried out on the subject. Do people really believe that a team of hundreds of animation professionals didn't at all know, or didn't discover during their research, information on a previous ANIMATED adaptation of THE SAME SOURCE MATERIAL their film was based upon?

Nadia isn't just some obscure show either. It was a major production from the famous studio Gainax and Anno Hideaki, of the most respected anime directors in Japan. It was very popular and won the Animage Grand Prix, an annual award for excellence in Japanese anime production. It was also very popular in Europe, airing on television in localised versions in Italy, France, Germany Spain and elsewhere, as well as in the United Arab Emirates. The show picked up a following among devoted anime fans in the 90s in fan translated editions, and became one of the most requested titles for localization among American anime fans.
The directors of Atlantis claim to be anime fans.
It's impossible that people in the creative team behind Atlantis hadn't heard of Nadia. Not even a remote possibility that what they're saying is true.

I don't believe Atlantis to be a straight rip-off. Unlike, I think, a lot of people here, I've seen both works, and as I have said, Atlantis differs quite a bit from Nadia in significant ways. However, it seems to be the case that people involved in the production of Atlantis were aware of Anno and Gainax's take on Verne and were influenced (in at least the design of the protagonists) by it.

Also, it's amusing to see people complaining about 'anime fanboys' in the same post where they say Nadia 'sucks' or dismiss it as 'garbage'. Nadia most definitely does not 'suck'. Patches of the show are of low quality (mostly the patch when Anno Hideaki did not direct) but it also features some very gripping drama and great artistry behind it. It also has an amazing, AMAZING finale, which is one of the greatest conclusions to a series I have witnessed. It's a great piece of work, so it's annoying to see people (many of whom I doubt have even seen the show) dismissing it offhand, and being just as bad as the fanboys they bemoan.

In the end, Nadia is a lot closer to Laputa: Castle in the Sky than Atlantis is to Nadia, though there is quite a satisfying explanation for this, since both works are based upon the same story outline written by Miyazaki. It's just another example of the assistance and sharing of ideas Anno and Miyazaki, two real life friends, have given each other over the years.

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Does nobody understand that almost 0% of Disney movies are unoriginal?
They're always based on SOMETHING, or inspired by something.
And is that so bad?
...Nope, not really.
As long as it's entertaining, who gives a sh-t.

"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and be loved in return."

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If Disney Ripped Off Kimba And Hamlet, Jk ROwling Ripped Of Lord Of The Rings, Greek Mythology And Larry Potter, By Nancy Stouffer, So You Can't Say They Ripped Off.

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Well, I just thought "Atlantis" was a rip-off of "Castle in the Sky", but when I rewatched it, it didn't matter to me anymore. They're BOTH very good movies! :)

"My Samehada, it doesn't slice...It SHAVES!!!" -Kisame (Naruto)

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"0% of Disney movies are unoriginal"

Sooo... 100% of Disney films are original?

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Pictures are worth a thousand words:

http://www.geocities.co.jp/SilkRoad-Ocean/9219/atlantis.htm

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If vague similarities was all it took then Ah My Goddess! would be considered a rip off of Bewitched.

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Atlantis is a ripoff of the plot of Laputa Castle in the Sky combined with character design from Nadia: secret of the blue water

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Just like South Park said. Everything is a rip-off of everything else. There is no originality anymore, if there ever was. Or you could take The Amazing Spider-man and boil every story down to the hero's journey.

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Can you tell me one thing Disney did thats COMPLETELY original?

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Just been skimming some of the posts... but is it just me... or am I the only one remembering from the special features of the movie that the creator/artist of Hellboy is the one who worked on Atlantis and was their inspiration and direction for the look of it...? Not an anime? Not saying that they couldn't have gotten inspiration from that anime (copied it/whatever), but I remember them specifically saying that they wanted the animation style in the movie to look like a comic book style which is why they approached Mike Mignola to work on it.

Anyway...

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