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I would love this movie, if only....


.... somebody, other than Arye Gross, were cast in the main role... I've seen the movie twice and I just do not like him, he's unattractive physically and more importantly he's uninteresting/boring... otherwise, I loved the premise, the setting the other characters... he just ruins the movie for me... I'm sorry, I just can't get around him...

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I still love the movie, but I'm with you on that. Arye Gross is not pretty to look at and much of the time he doesn't seem to really be connecting with the others actors. Though I suppose that's part of what they were going for anyway...

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Arye Gross is super cute! I don't know why you guys are bashing him for his looks and that he's miscast. He's perfect for the role, a middle-aged gay man. I am sick and tired of the majority of gay movies where they feature hunks and models... I know that goes for straight movies as well, the hot hunky guys or the pretty girls always gets the roles. It's just how US cinema is and frankly I am sick and tired of repetitive movies Hollywood has been throwing at us with the same actor or same actress in the same role under a new title, sick sick of it. I love to see new faces and good thing I stumble upon Arye Gross.

It might just be my preference but I would prefer an older sophisticated man over a promiscuous gym body younger male. And the fact that he's an artist in this movie really is icing on the cake for me because I find that profession really attractive in a sense and with a guy looking seasoned like Mr. Gross, hell yeah! He has this quirky dork mannerism to him which reminds me of Edward Norton and it just makes me melt. I don't know why you guys don't find him having charisma but I guess to each his own.

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"Those who matter don't mind and those who mind don't matter" - Dr. Suess

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I thought Arye Gross was fine in this movie. He's a brilliant character actor and here he played a gay character instead of a gay caricature*. He went a long way toward (finally) getting around the stereotype that all gay men are swishy and effeminate, under 30, and obsessed with their appearance and their wardrobe (and everyone else's). There are gay men over 30; there are gay men who don't act swishy and effeminate; and there are gay men who don't obsess about their appearance or their wardrobe (or anyone else's).

My biggest question about the movie:
Where were all the young adults and the middle aged people? Where were the parents of all those school-children? With curiously few exceptions, all I saw were the children (under 12) and the older folks (55+). When Widow Thayer (the local busybody) was trying to play matchmaker for Henry all these young adults suddenly appeared as if out of nowhere.

My biggest regret about the setting:
Big Eden, Montana, is purely fictional.

Observations are relative to the observer.
— Albert Einstein
We don't see things as they are; we see things as we are.
— Anaïs Nin
— and, last but not least —
No two persons ever watch the same movie.

*Mr Gross is one of the very few American actors I've seen to avoid that stereotype. Most of the actors I've seen playing a gay guy without stereotyping have been British or Canadian.

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I wondered how a Jew ended up in Montana

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It's not how Arye Gross looks like that really concerns me. His character seemed so self centered and self absorbed. He never really noticed anything around him.


As tforster42 said...


"more importantly he's uninteresting/boring..."

Yes, I know it's a film but, Henry hasn't a clue as to what is going on! He's still chasing Dean around the country side, when it's clear that, Dean really isn't gay!

Aside from that, this is a great film and it's certainly become one of my favourites!

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NEWSFLASH everybody! There are plenty of people in this world that are self-absorbed. Arye did a perfect job portraying that kind of person. It is realistic.

I cannot believe how many shallow people are complaining about Arye's looks. Especially considering the fact that a lot of these same posters are also complaining that Henry's character is self-centered and lacking depth. I think Arye is FAR from unattractive.

Perhaps too many stereotypical gay men are watching this movie when they should be watching something like Queer As Folk instead.

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