Hitting girls in the face


Would any guys here hit a girl in the face if they were mouthing off like Sarah Silverman's character was doing in this film?

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These responses are patheic. Why are you hitting ANYONE, male or female? So they mouth off to you? Then walk away or come up with a half-way intelligent response. Physically striking back makes you look desperate and ignorant.

Stupid apes...

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Someone else may look desperate and ignorant, but you'll be the one in the hospital having pieces of your cheekbone picked out of your gums. I bet being the biger person loses it's appeal when you're choking on your own blood.

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That makes no sense.

The posts above mine are all referring to a single instance in which a woman "mouths off" to a man, and whether or not that deserves a beating. If I were a man, and a woman was "mouthing off" to me, I would not hit her. If I were a man, and a man was "mouthing off" to me, I would not hit him. In which of these two aforementioned cases would I be "choking on [my] own blood" ???

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When you get an entire group of people to beat up 2 guys because they mouthed off back to you. When the guys realize that there is no way out of the situation other than them getting their ass kicked. They're doomed either way, you're screwed, so you attack the girls and get your shots in. The situation only applies if you can't get out of a fight and are seriously out numbered and probably will be beaten down.

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Some of the responses from posters here are obviously indicative of the pathetic moral decay of our society. I guess many of you were "raised" (wharehoused) in daycare because mommy and daddy didn't have time to instill morals and values in you.
Plain and simple, hitting a woman is the act of a consumate coward. Its something a punk does to make himself feel like a man. While you're at it, why don't you abuse children and puppies?
Its funny how when the police show up, 98% of woman abusers suddenly aren't fighters anymore. Not when the men show up.
I'm sure this will inflame the internet tough-guys who boast about how they would hit any woman who mouthed off to them like that, and they'll respond with more threats and boasting of how violent they'd be with me. Easy to do with the anonymity and safet provided by the buffer of the net. Truth is, if they're cowardly enough to hit a woman, its doubtful that they'd do anything if I were standing in front of them.

The only reason that I like this flick is because, as a firearms instructor, its one of the most realistic offerings from Hollywood as to the aspect of gunfight scenes and the handling of firearms.

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alright you douche. I think all you fags missed the point of this topic, and that scene in the movie as a whole. People arent saying that they would go around hitting a woman in the face. That scene is a special situation, in a movie. Ok, in a movie you dumbasses. Its not real, remember? Did you even watch that part? If your reaction to all that *beep* she was sayin wasn't to hit that bitch in the face then you must be some sort of buddhist or something. That was probably the best part of the movie. No one expected that to happen. They knew they had no chance to fight their way out so they at least got their licks in on those obnoxious bitches. It was totally badass. If you can't pick up on that, and you obviously can't, you must be a total dumbass or douchebag. And by sayin that, I'm not a punk or a coward. I would probably never hit a woman in real life, but I know that that part of the movie was great.

The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think, oh by the way, which one's Pink?

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I agree with Alice_Z I am surprised and disappointed that this film has attracted so many ignorant testosterone fuelled low foreheads.

It matters not what the woman said, you don't react to words with violence unless you are an uncivilised idiot. Violence is not cool as so many people here seem to think. I would do everything I could to avoid violence, If someone spouted obscenities at me I wouldn't start a fight with them. If someone calls you an *beep* and you punch them in the face you are the one on the wrong side of the law and morality.

I get the impression most of these posters are mentally deficient or immature teenagers that like to pretend they're "badasses".

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And I don't know how they couldn't get it...it was explained to them perfectly several times.

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Hi, I suggest you read some history, because this moral decay you speak of has been effect since, uhm well, we went outside our caves.
Women being on equal terms as men is not something that dates back very long you know.

To answer the OP's question; in Parker and Longbaughs situation, yeah, I would probably lash out. Otherwise? No, never. I'm by no means a violent guy and mere words mean very little to me.

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The funny thing is that all of these anti-violence advocates fail to support anything they say, at all. They simply state that violence is never necessary as if that is the way things are, always have been, and always will be. I'll have you know that while violence may not be part of your daily life, a cursory glance at anything resembling history will quickly inform anyone with even the slightest degree of common sense that violence is an inseperable part of human nature. Whether or not you're violent, you will most likely be confronted by a violent person at least once or twice in your life.

Now I'm not saying that violence should be the answer to every problem. No, far from it. But when de-escalation methods have already failed in a situation that you can see is quickly becoming violent I wouldn't recommend waiting to get sucker punched. Your options are either run for it, or preempt their agression. Likely a combination of the two will be your best option.

For instance, about 6 months ago I got into the second fight of my entire life. Now I call it a fight when in reality it was more like a beating. I was out for an early morning run at about 4:30 am when I ran into a few drunken punks in my own apartment complex. Now they're not stumbling drunk, but its obvious that it's affecting their judgement heavily. I'd just seen one of them trying to convince some girl that was leaving his apartment to stay, and when she refused he had grabbed a hold of her as if to haul her back.

Reflexively, I yelled out at him to chill. I failed to notice the other two guys up on the balcony of the apartment finishing off their forties until after I got myself involved. The situation got really bad for me, but he let go of her and she got into her car and drove off. So he starts talking some *beep* to me. I'm trying to calm him down, but he'll have none of it. His balcony buddies are muttering and smirking at me, then they get up and start heading down to back up their friend.

While they're on their way down, the *beep* cobbles together a line about how "This is his apartment complex, and I better prove to him that I live here by giving him my apartment number."

I'm pissed at this, and I'm definetly not going to give him that, but I keep it together and make up a number while pointing at some apartment across the way. He says he doesn't believe me and that he thinks he's going to have to kick my a$$. So now my options are run for it from a guy in my own apartment complex that I will probably see again at some point, or take initiative and remove the threat.

He starts doing the high schooler/fratboy/primate chest bump to me and jutting his chin out. Now I'm no martial artist by any stretch, but I've been through my share of roughhousing and have done some full-contact sparring with a marine friend of mine. So he puffs up to bump me again, and I simply lean back like I'm trying to get away from him as he comes in, then snap forward and plant my forehead square on his nose. Surprise is key. Unfortunately, I wear glasses so of course they go flying, but my vision isn't that bad without them.

To sum up, he starts sneezing blood and his eyes involuntarily water. I aim a couple at his upper face but end up getting him mostly in the neck and cheek and pretty much just shove him down. So then his friends show up and start charging down the remaining stairs. I grab my glasses up and take off but one of em grabs me by the back of my shirt, so I flail and spin around catching him with a glancing hit on the chin. Hurts me more than him it seems. Then we're all sliding down a leafy hill while they're both holding onto my shirt and wailing on my upper body and head for several seconds. I'm doing my best to keep from getting hit in the eyes or mouth. A neighbor heading off to work comes out and sees them, says he's calling 911. I yell out "Thank God". And his buddies get in their car and drive off. I remember their license plate and text it to one of my friends so I can get it if I need it.

I went over and helped up the drunk I'd actually hurt and got him seated on the steps up to his apartment. I even gave him a scrap of my shirt that had been torn off to help staunch his nosebleed. He starts telling me about how he can't go to jail or he'll lose his job and get evicted and blah blah blah. So I stop the neighbor from calling the police (apparently he was on hold, gotta love that) explain to him that the guy just had a few too many and I was being a little too nosey. I talk to the drunk guy for a few more minutes, find out his name is Thomas Taylor and he's actually the brother of one of my friends from college. Small world

I've seen him a few times since and we always tell the story and laugh about it.

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I find it funny how offended some people are getting about the reactions to a MOVIE. Oh, because someone wants to defend themselves, it represents moral decay. It's the same people who think the world's going to hell in a handbasket. Newsflash, it's been like that for several centuries. This country was founded on violent principles. But enough history lesson.

Me, personally, I feel Sarah should've kept her damn mouth shut and let her boyfriend handle the situation. Would I have hit her? No. When you're a guy, it's a lose-lose situation. No matter how ignorant the female is, if you so much as push her, it's an ass-whipping and/or an arrest.

I prolly would've just argued back with her, since it seemed like her man was all talk. Then again, I wouldn't have been sitting on someone else's car to begin with.


He sold me a fake Rolex!
-He paid me with a fake $20!

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Nope, don't care. I would've hit her. It was lose/lose for them anyways. They were pounded on by a huge crowd. I wouldve been happy knowing that I shut the beotch that kept running her mouth before I was stomped on. Wouldnt want to beat her up or anything like that. The punch in the face was just fine :)

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The situation in the movie could very well happen in real life. The situation couldn't be deescalated. If you remember the boyfriend was the first person to say something and insulted them. Yes, it was disrespectful to lean on the car. But calling them morons or whatever the *beep* it was he called them was uncalled for. That is why he didn't move. Then his gf started in and wouldn't shut up. In response parker said as a warning, "Hey, shut that *beep* mouth or I am gonna come over there and *beep* her head." A smart girl would have shut up but no not this girl. You have no idea who you are mouthing off to. And a guy says something like that. That is not something to be taken lightly. Really the only reason the whole group goes over there is egged on by the gf. The bf would have left it alone. In fact he didn't even want a fight if you remember correctly. If the bitch would have shut up like she was told to, and went back to talking amongst themselves. Parker and Longbaugh probably would have turned and walked away and went on about their business. If the car alarm on the car never would have gone off, nothing ever would have been said from both parties because if you remember the crowd was facing away from the car.

Walk away from a situation like that? Why?

You are weak for hitting a woman. If that was a woman please someone please tell me. All I saw what a raving bitch, as what is stated as the character's name in the credits.

As for me. No I probably wouldn't hit a woman. But a raving bitch, that is a different story. Hehehhe

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The thing is I always thought Sarah Silverman's character escalated the situation and she really wanted them to get beaten. The funny thing is the boyfriend really didn't even want to fight. She was egging on the violence and wanted them beat down. She wasn't going to do this herself, she was going to make her boyfriend or the small mob do it and send this guys into the hospital or worse, just because they lashed back at her. They didn't approach her and just deck her, she easily could have avoided the situation. The way Parker and Longbaugh responded I was not expecting and made the scene that much more enjoyable.

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Oh, lighten up folks. Lectures about hitting a woman? Protests about sitting on someone's car?

Here's the scenerio as stated in the film's commentary. These two guys were going to get their asses kicked. That redhead and his girlfriend were surrounded by dozens of sympathetic friends. The idea was to to hit the girlfriends (Parker hits and Longbaugh stomps) so that the male victors would still have to spend a miserable evening and weekend getting 'ell from the battered women.

OF COURSE it's awful. But it's funny, and my favorite film opening. I say that as a woman with a sense of humor.

"I'd never ask you to trust me. It's the cry of a guilty soul."

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But you also realize it actually had nothing to do with the insults. Watch the scene again. There was nothing wrong with what she said? So it wasn't wrong for her to pick a fight for her boyfriend? It was her fight. Not her boyfriend's. If you are defending that, you need a reality check. A woman should never do that to her boyfriend.

Also the guys hit the girlfriends not because they like hitting women but because it was the only way for them to win. Because the girlfriends would never shut up to the their boyfriends that allowed them to get punched by a guy when they are supposed to protect them but on the other side of that. She shouldn't have mouthed off and tried to get her boyfriend to fight for her. The only reason the boyfriend goes over there is because she kinda forces him over there on a guilt trip. He had no intention of fighting. She had no real response to Parker's insult until after she got her boyfriend to start walking over there. If you want to say that everything she did was right. You're wrong. So wrong. You don't talk *beep* and then try to get your boyfriend or someone else to fight for you. This applies to men as well. She got what she deserved. She was a *beep* coward. I am gonna talk *beep* but my boyfriend is gonna kick your ass. Really? Really? If you are so badass then why don't you try to kick my ass? She could have said everything she said from a distance and never mentioned about her boyfriend kicking his ass. Then all she did was just say words. But no. She got her boyfriend involved in a fight he had not interest in even after his girlfriend was insulted. It is obvious. He only goes over there because she pushes him too.

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I have seen some woman do that in my apartment complex. She got in an argument and talking all this *beep* and then she was like "You better stop or I am gonna have my sister [or someone else] come over there and kick your ass." I am walking back from my mailbox thinking "Don't do that. Just don't. If you are gonna threaten have it be from you alone. Bringing someone into it that isn't even present is really really *beep* If you think that is okay. I don't know what else to tell you other than you are wrong.

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Who approached who and who continued to threaten. There was no way for the two guys to get out of it. A fight was coming whether they wanted it or not all because of the girlfriend. The guy couldn't have said no to the fight because then he would never hear the end of it from his girlfriend for not defending her. Either way it was a lose lose situation for the boyfriend and who got him involved? The girlfriend. She should have not brought her girlfriend into it. And no the fight wouldn't have been just a fight. She wanted Parker to get his ass kicked. If you don't think that, think again. Whether you want to see your boyfriend fighting for you, its not even the same thing. He would be fighting for her not knowing how to keep her mouth shut, not because he actually wanted to be with her. I understand what you are saying about seeing two guys fight over a woman and whoever walks away is the one she chooses but that isn't even right. Who is really the better man in those kind of things? Just because a guy can fight doesn't mean he is the better man for the chick.

If it had been me and I was the boyfriend. I would have just said you're on your own and we are through. You don't do that to somebody. You want to run your mouth, you deal with the consequences, you don't bring me into it because you want to see a fight. You're a bitch and we are done and would have turned around and walked away leaving her there and told the rest of them to come with me. See how fast she starts apologizing to the guy then. Parker would have had no need to hit her to make her boyfriend go through a living hell of nagging because the girl just lost her boyfriend. No violence would have happened.

But in this case the boyfriend was pussywhipped and was gonna do what his girlfriend wanted. I don't agree with hitting a woman but you have to look at the full intent. Parker's and Longbaugh's intentions were never to win the fight. Never. Their intentions that even though they got their asses kicked the boyfriends would be the ones that would get it worse with the incessant nagging to their boyfriends who didn't prevent them from being hit. The whole scene was never about whether or not hitting a woman was right or wrong, it was about what the end result would be. Parker and Longbaugh won even though they lost the fight.

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I don't think people are offended by the movie. It was a good opening scene that got your attention. It's got to be the most memorable opening scene I've ever seen. People are all offended by all the built up testosterone in this thread with all the little wannabe "gangstas" proclaiming how they'd hit a girl in the face if she talked like that to them because "women want equality".

I foresee my future tax dollars going towards public defenders and state-issued anger management courses for the losers in this thread when they get their butts arrested for assault. Have fun doing the man dance in jail, boys!

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I don't think people are offended by the movie. It was a good opening scene that got your attention. It's got to be the most memorable opening scene I've ever seen. People are all offended by all the built up testosterone in this thread with all the little wannabe "gangstas" proclaiming how they'd hit a girl in the face if she talked like that to them because "women want equality".

I foresee my future tax dollars going towards public defenders and state-issued anger management courses for the losers in this thread when they get their butts arrested for assault. Have fun doing the man dance in jail, boys!


I'm sure that those "gangstas" will be doing the "man dance" on you, like what happened to Sarah Silverman in the movie, if you're not careful with your bold comments and empty threats.

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I would have done just about the same thing.

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I always tought they did it to get their ass kick in order to go to the hospital.. free bed, free food....

Im french... I don't care about my english spelling, deel with it!

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I think everyone is missing the point of this scene. This sets the entire movies plot as well as the characters for the rest of the movie. They are no nonsense type of people, with a sense of brotherhood for each other.
Besides, that was the funniest scene I have seen in a long time. I replayed that 4-5 times my first time watching it. I had to with all the tears in my eyes from laughing so hard.

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So funny. How many times has your morality stopped you from giving a mouthy twat like this a good drubbing?

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Violence never solved anything. Except for who is going to pay the taxes to whom.

the cause of my ambivalence is the effect of your own--me

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Well first off, I wouldn't have been leaning against the car. That said, I have been in the vicinity of situations similar to this. Luckily I wasn't the target so I didn't have to make a choice. Its a game called "Let's you and him fight". Woman starts a verbal conflict with a male. When he retaliates in words she sicks her troglodyte boyfriend on the man. I've seen the boyfriend kick the *beep* out of the guy and the girlfriend is smug. I've seen group brawls start from this and in that case weapons came out and the woman runs and abandons her hospitalized posse. I've also seen the woman jump in and get layed out good. I've never seen the approach taken in the film but after witnessing women who exploit men as weapons over and over again I'd have to say it was the right decision.

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When people talk about "equality" they're talking about things like equal pay, equal opportunities, etc.

What they are not talking about is intrinsic values. Women are not physically equal to men, no matter how you cut it (there are exceptions to be sure).

With that in mind, only punks and pansies beat on women or dogs or children...especially when all the woman did was get a little mouthy.

It was a great scene, though. And in the context of the situation, though I don't think I can say I would have acted similarly, it's hard to say what Parker and Longbaugh did was outright wrong....

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Well, I would hit Sarah Silverman in the face regardless of what she is doing. Now, I wouldn't hit a girl for talking smack in a parking lot. I wouldn't hit a guy for talking smack. Now if either were to hit me anywhere, they would catch a beating, but not for talk. You can't stop someone from talking unless you kill them.
And if I saw anyone just hit a girl with no context, they would also get beat down. Women are not as strong as men so men shouldn't be fighting women. It's like being a bully, and I can't stand people who hit women for no reason.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents. And it's an EXCELLENT movie.

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I would be rude enough to sit on the car...

That being said I wouldn't hit a woman for simply talking crap. Running your mouth isn't illegal but assault is. I am also not a criminal, but if I was I probably would hit a woman for talking crap.

If a woman hit me or was providing a real threat then that would definately pop her in the face. If she was trying to steal for me I would hit her for that as well. There is a limit on chivalry and some women don't seem to get that.

Although I believe in equality, violence against women is something you got to be careful about. I am confident that I could destroy most women in a fight... most likely with a single punch. Hell my wife is so petite that I know if I clocked her in the face as hard as I could I would probably kill her.

Me hitting a girl would also depend on if she was hot or not. If she was hot than I might cut her some slack. If she is ugly or really fat than I would definately drop the hammer on her. If she was a dike too I would treat her like a guy...

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I have too much respect for other people property, so I would never be sitting on someone's car. That's not being a coward or being a tough man, that's being respectful. However, if someone was sitting on my expensive car and setting off the alarm, mouthy girlfriend or not, there would not be a fistfight but the punks would pay, (an armed society is a polite society).

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