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Was the manager at Chotchkie's all that bad?


I just watched Office Space again and, as per the norm when you see a movie too many times, I found myself thinking that Jennifer Aniston's boss at Chotchkie's wasn't really that bad. It's not like he was dictating and censoring the flair she was putting on, he just wanted her to put more on. That seemed to be her only complaint about the place other than the annoying coworker.


Civility is just a warm and fuzzy name for censorship.

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Please click on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwDcSQK47Wc
for a commercial featuring an annoying waitress with too much flair. That is what the Chotchkie's manager wants.

I am grinning because on my last evaluation my boss said that I only did the bare minimum. She does the bare minimum of grooming her mustache. I can't take a gash like her seriously. I have no idea exactly what this woman wants from me. I receive next to no feedback. She saves everything for the ridiculous meetings. I am puzzled how she got and keeps her job. Everyone else wonders the same thing. She either is related to someone or is blackmailing someone.

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"I am puzzled how she got and keeps her job. Everyone else wonders the same thing."

It's called "pussy-pass".

Women have things like 'affirmative action' to support them, and the 'sexual harassment'-card that they can use at any time they wish, and no one will question them for doing so. Women have a tremendous amount of power and support from the governments of the world, men don't.

Men have to actually be competent to keep a job, women .. not so much.

This is the world feminists wanted; where no women would need to be competent or work hard, so actually everyone would eventually know that women are not skilled or good workers, like men have to be.. that's the end result of 'positive prejudice' or whatever it's called these days.

You might as well call it 'positive oppression' or 'complete inequality against men'.

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Thanks for the reply. I wrote that post about six months ago and forgot all about it. Not surprisingly, I left that job. I bumped into a trusted former co-worker about a month ago. She told me our former supervisor got fired for major theft. I knew she was a liar, but never guessed she was a thief. Her surly attitude may have been just a poor defense mechanism. I have never been tempted to steal from an employer. Even if there are a lack of checks and balances it will show up eventually. It isn't worth risking criminal prosecution for what is frequently just a few bucks.

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I don't think he was deserving of the middle finger, but yeah, he was extremely annoying.

The passive-aggressive approach wasn't the problem. Many managers are passive-aggressive because what is the alternative- open conflict?

No, the problem relates to what Peter went through with the TPS report. The idiocy involved is that the manager cared MORE FOR COMPANY POLICY than he did about her actual WORK PERFORMANCE.

Anyone who has worked for a corporation understands this frustration.

Did wearing less flair make Jennifer a less effective waitress? Doubtful. It was an idiotic thing to harangue a dedicated worker for and an even more idiotic reason to lose a decent worker over.

A waitress not showing up for work, or showing up drunk, or insulting customers is someone you need to harass. The amount of "flair" she is wearing? Completely meaningless.

STFU, and let her do her job.

The comical thing is that if you had Jennifer Aniston as a waitress, no one would notice how much damn flair she was wearing.

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Of course, just ask Tiger Woods. He has about ten of them on his rolodex.

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The manager at Chotchkie's was essentially the restaurant equivalent of Bill Lundberg - a micro-managing dweeb who cared more about the useless details (flair, TPS report covers), than things that really matter (providing great service, being a reliable employee).

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He was a mousy little man with too much power for him to handle.

People like that should not be in seats of power.





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good call.



A day without sunshine is like, you know, night.

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I'm amazed at how many complete jobsworths are fans of this movie.

I said to myself I'm gonna be the best damn busboy I can be!


These bastards!

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She wasn't suited for that job at all. The workers were expected to be very hyper and overenthusiastic. She wasn't like that. She should have worked at some quiet cafe or something.

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Jim Hutton: talented gorgeous hot hunk; adorable as ElleryQueen; SEXIEST ACTOR EVER

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I was baffled that we were supposed to hate him as much as LUMBERGH. They're not even close. He was just asking her not to do the minimum effort.

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the company manual is his bible!



I'll talk some jive. I'll talk some jive like you've never heard!

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He's passive aggressive, the worst kind of bad.

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No, he wanted employees that gave a *beep* and didn't bring down the mood of his establishment. It may sound petty, but he didn't directly tell her to wear more flair because then she's just following orders. She didn't have a whole 15 pieces because that's what she wanted; it was the minimum required of all employees. Just to clarify, I think the flair is stupid.

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Were she not to quit, but continue to endure her manager's continued inappropriate attention it would quickly rise to the level that could trigger anti-harassment policies or legislation.

Unwanted attention from an employer need not be sexually motivated to be inappropriate. Every jurisdiction in the USA has state labor law to address instances of employee harassment and workplace violence, with no regard to motivation. He is setting his company up for a lawsuit. A manager cannot continue to pick at something just because s/he doesn't like it. The employee's observation that if they want more flair, to change the amount required is sound. The fact that she demonstrated that she meets the current stated requirement should be enough to stop the attention she was receiving. That it did not becomes the basis for a complaint.

There is abundant case law that supports an employee's right not to be subjected to harassment in the workplace. Remember, motivation is not the test, the test is was the attention reasonable and justified in the circumstance? If not then it is wrong and actionable. In such instances an employee will sue and will win. This is a very mature and well-developed area of human resource policy.

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