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At what point did Alanzo decide to kill Jake?


Pardon me for asking this question, since I think it's been asked before (though I had trouble accessing some of the threads)

The theories I've seen are:
1) He decides to have him killed right after Roger was killed but *before* giving his speech to Jake in the car after the murder. Evidence for that theory is that apparently you can hear Alanzo saying on the phone, right when they are willing out the injured officer "make sure you clean up that tub."
Now, if that theory is correct, why not just go with Paul's idea and have Jake killed at Roger's? Nothing happened after that, and before the "tub" comment on the phone, to make him change his mind. All I can think of is that it's somehow better for Alanzo if Jake is killed somewhere else other than the crime scene. But I don't know why that would be.

2) He decides to have him killed only after his speech in the car, after Roger's. Up to that point, he's still considering keeping Jake alive. But we see nothing that tells us why he would change his mind between them talking the car and arriving at the Latinos.

3) Another theory was that he was planning on killing him from the very beginning. (This theory is also consistent with the "tub" comment on the phone) But that still begs the question of why he needed the Latino gang, rather than just going with Paul's plan of having Jake killed at Roger's.

Theories 1 and 3 raise the question of, Why give the speech at all? What purpose does it serve Alanzo? One commenter suggested that the reason is that he needed Jake to go give a statement to the DAs office, and that he did so *after* Roger's. Once giving the statement, Alanzo didn't need him any longer and could go to have him killed. That's an interesting theory -- but the problem with it is that we don't see anything suggesting that Jake stopped at the DAs office before being taken to the Latino gang. (That would have been really useful information -- watching Jake being willing to make a false report would be watching him cross the line in a big way, and, if that was meant to happen, you'd think the director would want us to see that.)

Thoughts? Thanks!

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WHEN HE WOULDNT LEGGO ALONZO'S EGGO.

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Good theories, but at the end of the day, maybe we just have to say, "it's a movie!" LOL! Because even if you could satisfy these theories, there still remains something else that doesn't make sense... the end fight scene. Now we've established that Alonzo wants Jake dead, right? Twice Jake has to jump balconies chasing Alonzo, and twice Jake is hanging for his life because he didn't clear those jumps cleanly. Especially the second jump where there is a pit bull below, why doesn't Alonzo stop hiding and just go step on his hands so he can fall? Instead, he allows him to gather himself and climb over, only then does Alonzo appear to beat him up. I know he's pressing for time, but again, why doesn't he just finish him by throwing him off the roof or something? Ultimately, when Jake jumps on his car, Alzono panics like a biaytch. LOL! He's the one protected in the car, he's the one with a gun in the car. Jake is completely injured because he just beat him up a minute ago. Does Alonzo have amnesia? LOL! He clumsily slams his car front, back, etc. and completely injures himself, which then allows Jake to have the upper hand.

Alonzo is ruthless, careless, and clumsy all rolled into one.

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