How could this happen?


The original movie was pretty good. I got to see this...sequel because it was put on the B side of the DVD I purchased. There is a scene at the beginning of the film, where the camera pulls back through the inside of a car. It was kind of interesting, almost inventive.

And that was probably the only bit of artistry or thought put into this movie. It was as if those responsible for the work put all of their creative energy into that one shot, and had nothing left.

Which somewhat begs the question: Why? It takes some work and study to be put into the position of making a movie. Directors, cinematographers, writers… all have to have something, even in Canada. Hollywood doesn’t just pull folks off the streets, give them a few million dollars and some cameras and say “go make your movie”.

So why is this work so woefully bad? At some point in the films production, I would expect someone in a position of authority to say “Hey, this is a really, really rotten piece of drek”. I’ve seen it happen where a movie is shaping up to be so bad that the film shifts gears and at least tries to capitalize on it being bad. “Hey, this is a bad movie, but if we make it out to be campy schlock, at least it might be entertaining on some level”. The Second Arrival doesn’t do that; it takes itself seriously from start to finish.

I’m not in the movie business, but I really have to wonder. I can’t honestly believe that the parties involved in the making of this film couldn’t figure out that this was a really awful piece of garbage. Can anyone out there explain to me how something like this reaches completion?

If I can say anything sympathetic about the film, I think it’s been robbed: It should be on the IMDB’s bottom 100. It’s not so bad that it’s good; it’s just so bad.

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well I cannot answer how a movie like this came to completion. I know one thing, since it was bad it was not picked up to be relased into theaters and was straight to video as fas as I know. Now one thing I have noticed that some of the actors from Starship troopers have now done mainly straight to video films and not much of any of the films they do get released into theaters. I am talking about Patrick Muldoon, Casper van Dien, jake Busey, and Dina Meyer. Although Meyer was in the Saw movies

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It's funny to me that you mentioned her. I thought her acting was horrible in Saw(s).

I own all three movies, but no thanks to her.

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but the funny thing is at least she gets work in films that actually come to a theater near you while all the rest do stragight to vid

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Good point. I guess she can't be that bad in someone's eyes, right?

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First of all, I have not seen this title but had watched The Arrival once again in recent time and it got me to wondering about this entry and wondered if it was any good. OK -- apparently not.

Now, the scene you mention where the camera pulls back through a car, that sounds like the one shot that Vilmos Zsigmond was very proud of back in 1977 where he had the camera go from the inside of the evacuation helicopter at the Devil's Tower in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. He had a crude device built where he would lie prone on a plank and the grips would pull him back and out the other doorway. Quite a nice trick back then, but with the advent of the Louma Crane, it has become an everyday camera move.

Why are bad movies made? Wow -- that's a good question. And do they know they have a stinker when they are making it? I suppose the Director is assuring the Producer that it will all come together in the editing room. "Music Cues! Special Effects! Fast Cuts! -- don't worry!"



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What's puzzling is that a fair amount of money went into making this film. It's got a ton of indoor and outdoor location footage, car scenes (which require complex rigging), night scenes, FX and the technical production quality is very good (sound, lighting). The acting isn't even all that bad, even some of the incidental bit players do a good job.

What's funny is why it so much money would get get spent on such an awful script. You would think that if this much was going to be spent filming this that they would have bought better writing, it would probably have been the cheapest way to make the movie better.

Besides the bad writing it wasn't unwatchable.

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To me it felt a lot like a long episode of The X-Files. After the step-brother is convinced, he and the journalist are much like Mulder and Scully in an episode relating to aliens.

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