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Has South Park become soft, liberal, PC, unfunny, and irrelevant?


So far this season has sucked.

Ep. 1 - Rebel flag flyers (most of whom aren't racist in real life), white nationalists, and the general working class are all conflated and mocked as stupid in a go with the media flow approach that's far from a profile in courage. No Antifa or BLM are referenced. There weren't many good jokes. Instead they seemed to over rely on themes being inherently funny enough to carry the show, like hicks performing computerized duties and Randy's house show having "white" in its title, but even those were underdeveloped.

Ep. 2 - They stupidly blame Trump's tweets for North Korea's actions in a clunky episode that felt out of date even if they were trying to ape DNC talking points. They didn't even focus on his UN speech, which they had plenty of time to do given SP's quick production schedule. They imply the NK regime is rational and harmless to the US. They also ironically tacked on a story emphasizing the indulgence of feeling over rationality in politics, almost an endorsement of "safe space" style thinking, something South Park in its prime would have ruthlessly mocked.

What's next? An episode supporting gun control? One dealing with the scourge of "hate speech"? One attacking Republicans for trying to reform healthcare or cut taxes? A "white privilege" episode? The "oppression" of US women?

If this trend continues it's easy to predict what we won't see:

- Taking on 95% of the media for being leftist, intolerant, dishonest, and having a herd mentality.

- Mocking Hollywood award shows for being nauseatingly self congratulatory and heavily politicized in one direction.

- BLM, black riots, Evergreen college, and anti-white bigotry in general (the "black lash" episode hasn't aged well).

- Suppression of free speech by Antifa and leftist institutions.

- A hard hitting take down of the BS "Islamophobia" narrative (or any liberal "phobia" narrative).

- Apparently anything favoring libertarian policies except maybe on drugs.

- Criticizing abortion rather than ignoring it or treating it as sacred.

- Mocking Pelosi, Maxine Waters, and other unhinged Democrats (a brief shot at Clinton when even some liberals are saying she should go away doesn't count).

- Taking on Google/FB/Twitter's partisan censorship, purging people who used to comprise SP's core audience.

- Kathy Griffin, Depp, and other liberals encouraging Trump's assassination.

- Murderous liberal violence (James Hodgkinson, Micah Johnson, Floyd Corkins, etc.).

- Rachel Maddow's conspiracy theory show.

- Jimmy Kimmel using his "comedy" talk show to give teary-eyed lectures on subjects he knows nothing about and is too rich to be personally impacted by (for now; if unrepealed Obamacare will eventually erode providers even for the rich and a single payer system would kill most medical innovation; coverage doesn't matter if there's nothing to buy).

- The anti-American far left's hysterical and historically ignorant drive to tear down monuments of Confederates, US founding fathers, Catholic missionaries, and pretty much any white male they come across.

- Entrenched ruling class in the media and civilian federal bureaucracy trying to nullify the results of elections they don't like.

- ESPN's politicization, double standards, and Jemele Hill.

- The delusional, hypocritical "Resistance".

- Failures of socialism in Venezuela and elsewhere.

The old SP would have done at least some of those things and did have similar episodes. This is the same show that once mocked Gore's "ManBearPig", had gnomes sing the glories of corporate economic impact, showed tobacco executives as good guys, featured "Smug" rising from San Francisco and George Clooney, correctly described "transgendered women" as mutilated men, and portrayed Rob Reiner as a sweaty, murderous hog. Now we're living in a society with people like this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avcyqp_10Yk

...and this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zs98unw0W0

...and SP isn't going to take advantage of that? Either they've gone liberal or just got comfy and don't want to rock the boat at what's turned from a comedy network into a political propaganda outfit.

But we've already got Colbert, Bee, Noah, Conan, Kimmel, Corden, Fallon, Meyers, Klepper, Maher, Oliver, Jefferies, Handler, Ellen, The View, 21st Century Simpsons, 21st Century SNL, and every Seth MacFarlane show for the past decade scrambling over the same far left sliver of the population. Why do we need a liberal South Park? Maybe it's time they cancel the show before its legacy is completely wrecked like The Simpsons' has been.

With no national network catering to the majority of Americans, any well done conservative or even just truly anti-PC, non-leftist talk show or sitcom would crush its competitors and make a killing. But where is the new insurgent show going to come from if all the networks are colluding to prevent such a series from rising again?

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Yeah I agree. South Park has felt so much much more tame in the recent seasons. Where's lady gaga and her shotgun, the first lady's vaginal issues and mr Mackey finding hiser penis (careful with my words here). Everything feels like a DNC party piece now too. Yeah they've made fun of liberals but most of its been really unfunny. Which is surprising how much they give us to work with. But now everything is just mainstream. I was dying by the end of each Trump scene with how tired out it was.
After watching the past few political seasons I cannot think of a single scene or episode that has been memorable for me. I think that the biggest problem of South Park asides from boring left-wing political commentary is that it has just become tame, liberal and corporate.
Good points and episode ideas made btw but to honest I do really think they should just steer away on making episodes solely/mostly focused on politics.
ALSO WHERE IS ******* KENNY

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Good post. I've never thought of South Park as a right wing show. I get why leftists may think it is. But IIRC, Matt said something in the early years like "I hate conservatives but I really, f-ing hate liberals".

So I never really expected them to throw their weight in on the tiring culture wars. Politics has always been kind of a lazy crutch in comedy. It's hard to come up with relatable material. We're all subject to the whims of government, so they're an obvious punching bag. "Looks like those clowns in congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns."

South Park was most interesting when it stepped back & commented on the broader culture. Maybe they poured their creative energy into The Book of Mormon musical & their video games. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, I'm really impressed with the games. Haven't seen the musical, those aren't my thing. Still, even I know it's the hottest ticket in live theater for like 5 years now.

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I realized the show was in trouble all the way back in season 11, I officially stopped watching after season 14. It’s simply not funny anymore

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