Why does she always put up her legs, and spread her legs while sitting in the couch, the car, the bed?!!! That's not the proper way of sitting. That is so disgusting. Whoever screws her, I dont care, she deserves it for acting that way. I don't like her character much anyways. All she ever does is chew gum, and God knows what!
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The idea is that she is just a young lively girl that doesn't understand the nature or power of her sexuality. She's not "ladylike" because she is a lively tomboyish child. You shouldn't blame her for what happened in the film if you have any... decency at all...
"I swear to you, gentlemen, that to be overly conscious is a sickness, a real, thorough sickness."
Wow watchgirl92, it's amazing how you gloss over her actions. How do you arrive at the conclusion that she wasn't aware of the power of her sexuality? She was depicted as a master manipulator and is described as much more mature than her age. I guess I should say, it figures a female would try to shift 100% of the blame away from her and onto him. Me, unlike you, acknowledges that he's a pedophile with a sickness and was very guilty, but I don't believe the story would have taken the path it took if she wasn't literally a "lolita" because I don't think he was a rapist.
I see Stupid People...
She was depicted as a master manipulator
"...that doesn't understand the nature or power of her sexuality."
What absolute nonsense! Of course she understood!
Little girls aren't sluts; it's adults who transfer that image onto them. Lolita sat the way she did because she was a child who was oblivious to the adult connotations of it - she was a carefree tomboy.
shareYou were "oblivious" about flirtation when you were 14? Boy you were a slow learner. I agree you can be naive and lack forethought of it's implications but "oblivious" Not a chance. I sure wasn't.
shareLolita referred to sex as a 'game' she played at camp, I think that's evidence enough that she wasn't exactly well-educated on the topic.
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"...oblivious to the adult connotations..."
Also nonsense like the other post. She well knew what she was doing -- just as 14-year-old schoolgirls today will hike up their skirts as soon as they've left their home on the way to school.
That's not the proper way of sitting. That is so disgusting. Whoever screws her, I dont care, she deserves it for acting that way.
What you have to remember is that in the novel Humbert is writing this from his point of view. He's delusional and troubled as we know and he may be making Dolly out to be more sexualized than she is because of his state of mind. Nothing he says can be trusted.
Not only that but in this film she is 14 not 12 and at 14 you are well aware of sexuality, especially around adults and how they react to it.
~Put that cookie down, NAOOOOOOO!~
I agree Talent_for_love that as the novel projects Humbert's perspective, he perceives Lolita as being more than what she is. She is not Deloras but LOLITA, his fantasy object, the embodiment of all of his nymphet desire. Also before life sexualises human beings, children are liberated beings who are quite free emotionally, mentally and physically. They run around naked, they flirt (yep kids flirt!), they play, they sit how they want. It's not 'sluttiness' - its just being at an age when you are completely unaware of the sexuality of your body and the consequences of that sexuality. The great thing here is the ambiguity between Delores as she was and Lolita from Humbert's opinion and also the difference between Lolly the child and Lolly as a sexual being. Clearly later on she begins to realise that her sexuality holds a power over Humbert (he gives her money and presents) - she then learns to manipulate him.
shareHis fantasy object, geniuses, wouldn't put him through so much, string him along and knowingly put daggers in his heart at every turn. I totally disagree that the way she acted was his fantasy. If she had any kind of character she wouldn't have flirted and tried to make him jealous every chance she got. She led him on, and though what he did was wrong, it doesn't make her devoid of guilt. She knew exactly what she was doing and the power she wielded. She was identical to an adult woman of "low morals." She enjoyed the power she had over him and exploited it masterfully. The truth is, females like her are the stuff of men's nightmares. She is the fabled "devil spawn" that leads men down the path of destruction
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"She is the fabled "devil spawn" that leads men down the path of destruction"
Indeed she was. But Nabokov made sure she got her comeuppance at the end by dying in childbirth.
So you're saying that because a young girl or an adult female in general spreads her legs while sitting that she deserves to be taken advantage of and sexually assaulted? You're one of those people who think that women are "asking for it" because they wear a shorter skirt or a tighter top aren't you? You're pretty much justifying the abusers actions which is terrible.
shareNoone is justifying the abusers. Abusers are abusers and their place is in jail. But you are one of the women that thinks its perfectly fine women trying to provoke men by wearing short skirts and showing boobs and ass. No, that is not right, that parts are for the eyes of your boyfriend. Not for everyone. It is provocative and girls are doing it because they want attention. For me its bad to get attention this way. If a woman wants to be respected she can find other ways and be respected for what she is, not for her body.
" But you are one of the women that thinks its perfectly fine women trying to provoke men by wearing short skirts and showing boobs and ass."
you mean one of the women who believe we are not mens property? The ones who believe we can dress however the hell we want and not be subject to abuse? right.
Believe whatever you want, sweetheart.
shareYou sound like a rapist. Stay away from girls and women.
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I think screeninf this film with a room full of prudes like you would be most entertaining.
shareI think alot of that behaviour is meant to constantly remind the viewer how young she is, meaning she is not a lady but a child
Do guys like "the thing"?
They like it better than no thing.
It is in the novel. "Lolita was a great shower of leg." I think the direct was trying to visualize the book.
share/I think alot of that behaviour is meant to constantly remind the viewer how young she is, meaning she is not a lady but a child\
Yes. Her immature behaviour is a motif in this film: it emphasizes the point that he's in love with a child. She's not in love with him, she's just experimenting with her sexuality as teenagers do, and she still has a lot to learn about what she wants in regards to love. He thinks he has finally rediscovered his soul mate in this girl which he lost when he was 14, but it's just an illusion.