8 MM or TESIS?


The two films have the same subject - snuff movies, but I think TESIS is far superior to 8 MM. Wich one do you think is the best?

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Tesis is a much better film, more suspenseful, atmospheric, thrilling and original. Besides it came first.
Finally Joel Schumacher is a mediocre director while Alejandro Amenábar is a genius. I mean he shot Tesis when he was only 23 yo!

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To echo ebs, "Videodrome," which whipped both of these films in virtually every category.

That being said, I preferred 8mm. I was expecting a horror movie when I bought Tesis (no video stores nearby offer a very diverse selection of foreign films, so when I want to see one I have to purchase it online). "Videodrome" and "8mm" both work much better as horror films. Tesis is more of a drama predicated on a horror movie premise (snuff films); 8mm leaves the viewer feeling tainted, similar to what Cage's character has just experienced. It's a thoroughly unpleasant glimpse at the ugly side of life. Tesis unfolds in a much more "gentle" manner and lacks the insight into the psyches of the emotionally disturbed that 8mm offered up.

I also thought that the message-- similar to 8mm's-- was delivered in a much more heavy-handed manner. Joaquin Phoenix's character utters that film's "thesis" in one sequence, and lets it rest; the ongoing plot point of Angela's cinematic violence paper makes the film's message come across as too in-your-face and sanctimonious.

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The two films have the same subject - snuff movies, but I think TESIS is far superior to 8 MM. Wich one do you think is the best?
Agreed with you. But there's no contest. 8MM is horrible, horrible stuff.

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I think i am the first but I like 8mm better. Cage was good, I have no clue why people are throwing so much hate his way.

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"tesis" by far!

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Tesis is 8000 times better.

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Man, these two aren't even comparable. 8MM may be enjoyable but comparing it to Tesis really makes it look like a joke.

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I really like both films, so it´s really hard to choose wich one is the best!
But if i have to... i probably say 8MM!

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Both are good movies. What I like more about Tesis is that it has a lot of suspense without being too graphical. Actually you don't see any gore there - if I remember right. Its been a while I've seen it. And when you see this movie for the first time you can't really be sure who the killer is until the last few minutes.

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8MM had some great actors in it.
Joaquin Phoenix, James Gandolfini, Amy Morton, Katherine Keenner, and Cage was not too annoying.
It was a detective story, and became a revenge story...
what touched me the most was the part with the mother... that made me care what happened.

Thesis had a pretty good script... but after the first 20 minutes, I felt manipulated. I felt immediately there was something wrong with Bosco, but they kept trying to show a little doubt.. and kept trying to throw a little doubt on Chema... I liked the Chema character, he was interesting.

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