I caught part of this as I was flipping channels & can't believe how much the actors look like Lyle & Eric. Didn't watch it & most likely never will judging by how little postings there has been. The movie must have not been very good evidently.
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the other Menendez murder movie was much better - it starred Billy Warlock -the title of the mini-series was titled "Honor Thy Father and Mother: The True Story of the Menendez Murders(TV 1994)" I think this movie was MUCH better (also showed more information on both sides - the parents & kids), and the actors who portrayed the bros did a great job; i think the actors for this movie did well too, it seemed like this movie was more about the bros "point of view" - we will NEVER know if they were "molested by their father", i do believe the father was very strict but i think the molestation may have been made up; in both movies the mother is so oblivious or she just turned her head away like nothing was happpening.... the dead can't talk, so like i said we will NEVER know the REAL TRUTH. I do think they were both spoiled and often times they contradicted theirselves about how the father treated them.. also who was the "mastermind" eric or lyle? either way these guys will NEVER get out and they shouldn't.. also the rumors, was erik gay, bi, or what? not that it matters just hearing all kinda things about him..
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Wow...some people obviously think they know the psychology and motives of all involved, but they don't. Probably safe to say none of us ever will. I think what Eric and Lyle did was unforgivable. However, I don't think it's fair to knee-jerk think that just because they came from money they must SIMPLY Be spoiled, entitled, and lazy sociopaths. Also, Jose MAY have been terribly abusive. Abuse changes people's psychology. That is just a fact. Just because we cannot see psychological changes under a microscope in a lab doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Having said that, MAYBE they WERE just born evil. I believe that does exist also. Some people ARE just born narcissistic and/or with sociopathic tendencies. I think in this case it may be a mix. A terrible mix of tendency set off by systematic abuse.
I just roll my eyes when people blame the bratty, entitled rich kids as if money is some sort of shock absorber for the hurt and pain that one
absorbs. It does not. No one should condemn
people out of envy.
Obviously, they should have TRIED to suck it up a bit longer and then go on their way as adults. But because they did not do that, that tells me that there was obviously some VERY screwed-up thinking---meaning---psychopathology. The question goes back to nature or nurture? In this case, maybe both. However, having money is only a part of the large equation.
Point being, we'll just never know.
So what you are saying is they couldn't have gotten off with the affluenza defense? LMAO
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Wow...some people obviously think they know the psychology and motives of all involved, but they don't. Probably safe to say none of us ever will. I think what Eric and Lyle did was unforgivable. However, I don't think it's fair to knee-jerk think that just because they came from money they must SIMPLY Be spoiled, entitled, and lazy sociopaths. Also, Jose MAY have been terribly abusive. Abuse changes people's psychology. That is just a fact. Just because we cannot see psychological changes under a microscope in a lab doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Having said that, MAYBE they WERE just born evil. I believe that does exist also. Some people ARE just born narcissistic and/or with sociopathic tendencies. I think in this case it may be a mix. A terrible mix of tendency set off by systematic abuse.
I just roll my eyes when people blame the bratty, entitled rich kids as if money is some sort of shock absorber for the hurt and pain that one
absorbs. It does not. No one should condemn
people out of envy.
Obviously, they should have TRIED to suck it up a bit longer and then go on their way as adults. But because they did not do that, that tells me that there was obviously some VERY screwed-up thinking---meaning---psychopathology. The question goes back to nature or nurture? In this case, maybe both. However, having money is only a part of the large equation.
Point being, we'll just never know.
You are not right in the head.
shareJose Menendez has been exposed as a predator. You can watch the full first trial on Court TV's website. The money motive was debunked, and there was corroborative evidence of abuse and that the brothers feared their parents.
shareI don't need to watch the trial, I know what nonsense their lawyers spouted.
"Jose Menendez has been exposed as a predator."
Absolutely not. He was a philanderer, there's no evidence he was a predator. The accusations by the one Menudo member only came years after the trial.
"The money motive was debunked, "
Absolutely not. I mean, lol, they inherited a lot of money and immediately started spending it!
"there was corroborative evidence of abuse and that the brothers feared their parents."
Absolutely not. Two cousins who only shared their claim of hearsay at the trial can hardly be considered "evidence".
What YOU need to do is read the Vanity Fair article by Dominick Dunne for a different view on the case and understand the manipulation that went on.
https://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/1994/03/dunne199403
Yes, you do need to watch the trial, unless you don't want to see the truth.
Spouting that "a man who has affairs can't be a predator" is ignorant and outdated. Roy Rosello, formerly of Menudo, has stated that Jose committed SA on him. Leslie Abramson, Erik's attorney, did consider calling Rosello as a witness but reasoned that it would ruin his career. She was probably right. This is not new information. The late David Conn, lead prosecutor in the second trial, admitted on Larry King Live in 2003 that he was aware during the trial that there were other allegations against Jose.
Dominick Dunne was biased, and attracted to Erik Menendez. He even wrote to him in prison, asking for interviews, and kept a modeling photo of Erik where he was only wearing briefs. Dunne, who was deeply closeted, projected his shame about his sexual orientation onto Erik. He was not a reliable source and paid a woman to lie in one of his articles about the case.
The brothers received no money from the estate while they were free because the estate wasn't settled until after they were arrested. Their uncle, Carlos Baralt (who was the executor of the estate), stated that Jose told him that he had disinherited his sons, about a year prior to the killings. The money the brothers spent came from an insurance policy that they had no way of knowing that they would receive, and all of their purchases were approved of by their relatives. The prosecution could never prove the money motive (even the jury who convicted the brothers in the second trial didn't believe that they killed their parents for money), and the prosecution switched motives throughout the first trial. The grand jury refused to hand down an indictment stating that the killings were for financial gain because there was no evidence to support it.
There were multiple witnesses who testified that the parents were abusive in many ways and who feared Jose and Kitty themselves. There was also no reason for the parents to have kept photos of their sons' private parts.
I know this case very well. You evidently do not.
"Yes, you do need to watch the trial, unless you don't want to see the truth."
Yes, the truth is obvious when you watch the trial, which is that the brothers are full of shit.
"Dominick Dunne was biased, and attracted to Erik Menendez."
Yeah, like I said, you're not right in the head. Obviously you're in love with one or both of the Menendez brothers. Good day and good luck with the rest of your life.
Oh please. The "you must be a fan girl" mantra that pro-prosecution people inevitably spout when they've either been proven wrong or have nothing to come back with.
How original.
Lol, now that's the funniest and most hypocritical reaction ever after you just accused Dunne of being in love with Erik. Get a life and stop making up stuff, looney tunes.🤪
shareI didn't make up anything, sorry to disappoint you. I said Dunne was attracted to Erik, not necessarily in love with him. You know the difference, right?
Dominick Dunne’s deeply instilled homophobia regarding his own sexual orientation influenced and played into his coverage of the Menendez trial.
In 2001, Dunne wrote a letter to Erik to request a face-to-face interview in prison. He had read Erik’s many unproduced screenplays, written before the two sons committed murder, and in the letter he went on to lavish praise on the young man’s talent as a writer. “How often you come to my mind,” Dunne wrote.
His fascination didn’t stop there. He also made copies of Phillip Kearney’s shirtless photograph of Erik, and on special occasions, Dunne would show the photo to guests at his country house in Hadlyme, Connecticut.
“He could be a Calvin Klein model,” said the man from Vanity Fair.
From "Money, Murder, and Dominick Dunne: A Life in Several Acts” by Robert Hofler.
https://www.thewrap.com/dominick-dunne-erik-lyle-menendez-brothers-gay/
Yep, twisting the facts like you did before. That article is full of speculation and hearsay. If you use things like that as arguments, we can dismiss you as well as the Menendez brothers. They killed their parents, so we can't trust a thing they say! Right???
Now go visit your hubby in prison and leave the sane people alone.
You accused me of making it up, which I did not. It's obvious that you don't want to look at the case in-depth because you wish to keep that mindset.
You did make it up, you crazy lunatic! Nowhere does the article even state Dunne was in love with Erik. It tries to imply it, but all it has to back it up is hearsay and speculation.
Again, there's no way I can take anything you say seriously, because you make things up, distort the facts and are clearly hot for these guys. Just go away and try to convert your fellow patients in the mental asylum.
Too bad you can't make a living out of being a troll.
Again, I said Dunne was attracted to Erik, not in love with him.
The information in the article is from a book by Robert Hofler, which was written and published with the permission of Dunne's son, Griffin, who was also a source for the author.
"Too bad you can't make a living out of being a troll."
The Menendez brothers must be paying you to do exactly that...
"Again, I said Dunne was attracted to Erik, not in love with him."
Oh well, that changes EVERYTHING , of course... So you missed the part where all of that was only based on hearsay and speculation, hmm??? The man was intrigued, only a lunatic without any arguments would use that against him.
You missed the part where it is from a book by Robert Hofler that was written with the permission of Dunne's son Griffin who was also a source for the author.
The son was not quoted in the article nor was he present during those conversations.
The article also doesn't say Dunne was attracted to Erik, but drawn to his supposed homosexuality. Why you dismiss what Dunne had to say based on that is beyond a sane human's comprehension. Now go suck 🍆, D-feet.
Was it necessary to write a book? tldr
Eat some makeup because you are really ugly on the inside - Olivia Blois Sharpe
Your statement is so true. We'll never know why this really happened and this was a tragic way to end a family. The brothers will probably never see eachother again.
share"can't believe how much the actors look like Lyle & Eric."
Caught this on TV just now and I came to say the same thing lol Especially the actor who played Eric.