The Republican Party gets it again - Sneakers (1992) Discussion

[–] where_is_my_mind09 12 years ago

yeah, that was real mature: Bankrupting a party for no other reason than to cripple an opposing party. Don't agree with someone's political beliefs and ideas? Don't engage in an intelligent debate, no...ruin them financially.
That's called communism.

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[–] fpollinger 12 years ago

God, learn your history boy. You don't even know the first thing about communism.

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[–] Stratego (29327) 5 months ago

I'm sure you're an expert. Just move to North Korea, please.

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[–] V.I.D.I.O.T. 11 years ago

Wellllll... It may be petty, immature and small-minded, but it's hardly "communism".

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[–] Lokisgodhi 9 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkodTydUR0E

where_is_my_mind09 wrote (in crayon):

yeah, that was real mature: Bankrupting a party for no other reason than to cripple an opposing party. Don't agree with someone's political beliefs and ideas? Don't engage in an intelligent debate, no...ruin them financially.
That's called communism.

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[–] Lokisgodhi 9 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkodTydUR0E

where_is_my_mind09 wrote (in crayon):

yeah, that was real mature: Bankrupting a party for no other reason than to cripple an opposing party. Don't agree with someone's political beliefs and ideas? Don't engage in an intelligent debate, no...ruin them financially.
That's called communism.

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[–] Stratego (29327) 5 months ago

Exactly.

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[–] RipRoss (359) 3 months ago

Don't agree with someone's political beliefs and ideas? Don't engage in an intelligent debate, no...ruin them financially.

Yep. Exactly what the NYC court system is doing to Trump now.

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[–] JSFound 12 years ago

Have you considered the idea that the Republican party deserved it? I don't mean being right in taking all their money, but a filmmaking point on the party itself? Would you agree or disagree that over the past ten years, all their ideas have failed, made us less safe with two wars, millions killed, increased the debt massively, created the Great Recession which left millions unemployed, denied rights to minorities, women, gays, and enacted legislation that hurt the middle class while enriching the very wealthy? Agree or disagree? And if disagree, where's your evidence? Because all I said has been well documented. It is objective evidence. I am truly astounded that many people don't see that (I'm not saying you don't). To not see what's right in front of you--that's scary. The Republican party turned itself into a joke long ago.

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[–] where_is_my_mind09 12 years ago

Nope, I don't agree with you. Sorry. What about rich Democrats who don't practice what they preach?

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[–] where_is_my_mind09 12 years ago

BTW, if it was the Democrat party, Libertarian party, Green Party, Clown party, whatever...I would still say it was wrong.

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[–] adriansevin 12 years ago

Let me first say that I LOVE this movie. I first saw it back in the mid 90s in my Computer Keyboarding class in middle school and bought it on DVD as soon as I could. The movie, characters (especially Dan Akyroyd's Mother), humor, and plot were great.
In regards to the political undertones, I consider myself a conservative so to see the "evil" republicans get their dues always stings a little. But I imagine that's Robert Redford getting his personal politics into the picture. He's a great actor but has always been a little too left-wing even for most liberals. Take, for instance, the opening scene where college-aged Marty and Cosmo are making statements that the phone company "makes too much money." Who are they to decide what is "too much money?" I'm sure if they were both rich, they wouldn't be so opposed to Ma Bell's prosperity. Secondly, they then assume that since they have "too much money" that the phone company is inherently "corrupt." Again another left-wing assumption that has no root in fact. Being rich does not make one a sociopath.
But also on the other hand, even when Cosmo reveals his plan, which is truly left-wing and communist in its ideals, even Marty has to realize that its completely insane because he realizes that "leveling the playing field," as all class warfare-ists (not sure that's areal word) love to quote, will eventually come down to destroying personal freedoms to enjoy wealth, possessions, etc. Which when it comes down to it, even Mr. Redford would be not be so sure about, given his own personal fortune.
Am I trying to make a profound poilitical point? No just giving some thoughts on what I perceive throughout the movie. But on an endnote, I would LOVE to see the Clown Party get their comeuppance....creepy bastards...

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[–] windquake 11 years ago

You have got to be kidding me...

The things you list:
made us less safe with two wars, millions killed, increased the debt massively, created the Great Recession which left millions unemployed, denied rights to minorities, women, gays, and enacted legislation that hurt the middle class while enriching the very wealthy?

All continued and propped up by the Democrats for the last 5 years.

It isn't just the Republicans that are ruining things around here.

I hate IMDB's Signature policy...

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[–] Stratego (29327) 5 months ago

Your hypocrisy is mindblowing.

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[–] sanookdee 12 years ago

I walked away with an entirely different view when I watched this movie. I saw their actions as being sneaky, underhanded and illegal. The movie started with stealing (yes, stealing) money from Nixon and the Republicans and, ended with stealing money too. It's irrelevant that they did not keep it, they still stole it. I did not think "way to go" but I thought more along the lines of "we can break the law to put our party in power, no matter how illegal it is". Instead of a shot at Republicans, I think this movie puts the Democrats and liberals in a bad light as thinking it's ok to steal to overcome the opposition. That sounds like something that would happen in some third world banana republic, Castro's Cuba or the former Soviet Union.

If Redford and the writers were trying to take a shot at the Republicans, to me, I think it backfired and makes them look like criminals.

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[–] birthdaynoodle 12 years ago

Yes, that was lame and unnecessary. I disagree with Republicans on many things, but that doesn't make stealing from them (or anyone else) right. This sort of thing turns me off about films with that kind of liberal twist. I felt the same way about Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, where robbing banks is also presented as something cool. Bonnie and Clyde also comes to mind. I know Sneakers is just an entertaining movie, but still... It wouldn't bother me so much if Redford and company didn't go about the robbing and stealing with such a sense of moral superiority. It's hypocritical. Yeah, I'd like to see their faces if someone stole their money.

I think it's ok to rebel against the system sometimes, in some ways, but this is just childish. After all, these people aren't 15 years old.

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[–] mcgill_j 11 years ago

Are you truly defending Nixon? Ok.. they stole from the guy who was stealing from the other guy? Oh.. and yeah.. ONE of those people really was involved in THEFT. Guess which one it wasn't? LOL.

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[–] Stratego (29327) 5 months ago

So two wrongs make a right, huh? Also, we're talking about a freaking movie, not real life, idiot.

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[–] sanookdee 12 years ago

I think the ending would have been much more effective had they bankrupted drug cartels and organized crime. Or, even the oil sheiks.

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[–] SmokeyTee 12 years ago

1992... I am not an American but I imagine this is the end of the 80's when America, like Britain, had *suffered* a period under a right wing government and the nation was only just welcoming a left leaning and progressive, rather than reactionary and right wing leadership...

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[–] bullpen_1 12 years ago

"suffered"?

Good grief. *rolls eyes*

You're right, no human being would stack books like this.

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[–] gabby_bm 12 years ago

It's an act of domestic terrorism. And sadly, the recipients really aren't going to "change the world" with their ill-gotten gains either. I know it's a comedy bit and I laughed at it, as the way it was intended. After all, that's how the film started and remained Cosmo's intent- to perform acts of economic terrorism. in order to destroy order and create chaos.

Brice was just a bit more restrained. Frankly, I would have liked it better had they done something that WOULD have changed the world. maybe draining the accounts of professional sports leagues and financing higher education in inner cities.

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[–] uvl 11 years ago

Christ, you people are taking this flawed and dated little movie way, *WAY* too seriously.

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[–] Prismark10 11 years ago

The film was released at a time when the GOP had the Presidency for 12 years and there was a mod for change which resulted in Clinton getting elected. It was also a bit of fun.

Its that man again!!

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[–] gabby_bm 11 years ago

Christ, you people are taking this flawed and dated little movie way, *WAY* too seriously.

That's what the internet is for, you silly goose. That, and to anonymously hurl insults at strangers.

My "#3" key is broken so I'm putting one here so i can cut & paste with it.

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[–] SampanMassacre 11 years ago

democrats want to get rid of AM Radio but they have always controlled hollywood it's so funny like little spoiled princesses who want everything

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[–] rofkr 10 years ago

At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill disciplined, despotic, and useless. Liberalism is the philosophy of sniveling brats.

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[–] VanWhack 10 years ago

And conservatism is at it's core the dog who will rip the other dog's face before letting him get a piece of his juicy steak. I've always thought that a good balance between the two is the way to go; the further you go to the left or to the right you're going to end up at fascism.
I'll admit that in a lot of ways my thinking leans toward the left but I still found this ending to be fairly ill-thought out.

"I'm not saying I don't trust you, and I'm not saying that I do, but I don't."

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[–] Stratego (29327) 5 months ago

That was a nice rant from a lunatic. Now off to bed, you sniveling brat.

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[–] sstarl1324 10 years ago

Considering who made it and who the target audience was it should be no surprise.

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