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Questions for non-christians


Would a non-christian enjoy this movie?
What did you rate this movie?

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I am not Christian and I love this film. It's very subjective in that it's open to interpretation. To me, it represented how twisted, self-righteous, judgmental Christianity is and how nuts the majority of the followers are.

Mimi Rogers gives the best performance of her career. Really underrated plus you get to see Dave Duchovny's ass!

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I adored this movie and I'm not Christian. And I'm with Lintriago & the loving the beauty of David's ass!!

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you get to see Dave Duchovny's ass

Dang! That's what I get for watching the TV version, I suppose.

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It would be a wonder if a non-christian (extend that to anyone who has nothing invested in the credibility of any of the Abrahamic derivatives, in particular Judaism and its most recent major plagiarism, Islam) who is not completely insensitive to religion and oblivious to the carryings-on over religion in the present day did not enjoy this movie. I wonder how any bible believing Christian could enjoy this movie.

CB

Good Times, Noodle Salad

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I'm an atheist. I really enjoy this film. I rate it about a 6, though. It drags at times. Performances are excellent, I love the ambiguity to it all. And I really like Mimi Rogers.

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***Spoiler Alert***
I am a real non-christian (an atheist deconvert), so I see the movie quite differently than a lot of the commenters here. I kind of liked the movie until 1) the horrible deed, which in my opinion, could only be committed by a deranged person, not merely a committed one, and 2) supernatural "visions" started becoming "real" (as in the prison scene). It's extremely easy for me to accept that people can "experience" things that don't really exist. My own experience is that all supernatural "experiences" are delusional, and usually part of a self-induced dream-state, so I couldn't really follow this movie well through this jump, although I have been successful with quite a few others such as "Lost Horizon" and "Ghost".

Frankly, I lost it when the protagonist turned into a murderer. I don't like murderers very much, call me a bigot, if you like. The "Apocolypse" that follows looked and felt very much like a bad cartoon, even though I have read Revelations. The murderer's anger, to me, didn't appear genuine. It was the anger of any common criminal, directed against "the system"; only this time it was directed instead against her own personal system of insanity, Christianity's God and its power over her. The posts I have read on the movie make me optimistic, since I can see that many of the Christians that see the film are introspective after seeing it. However, what is most difficult for me in reading these is to realize that The Bible has convinced many of them that infanticide is a misdemeanor.

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Exactly! What is the end but a total rejection of the Judao-Christian concept of God?.....

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I don't see how this can be considered a rejection of a concept. She is standing there in a place where the existence of this god can no longer be questioned, he's there right across the way waiting. This is a rejection of that god right to his face. The end position is that if this being is god, I reject HIM for being what he is and for what he does, not the concept of him.

CB

Good Times, Noodle Salad

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I just watched this movie on IFC on a whim and it was another good illustration of how pretentious and illogical most religious people are. As an agnostic person (defined: a person who holds that the existence of God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable), I can appreciate religious films. I thought "The Passion of the Christ" was a very powerful movie, even though I don't believe Jesus was the son of God. So watching "The Rapture", it reminded me of people I know who take the Bible literally when it suits their cause. The Bible is a book, JUST A BOOK, written and interpreted by flawed people. Yet it's treated as as the ultimate moral authority without any question of it's accuracy.

Furthermore, it was striking to me the similarities between mental illness and religious zealotry, especially the disorder of schizophrenia. Religious people often exhibit the same symptoms as schizophrenics, (1) confusing reality with fiction, (2) hearing voices telling them to act a certain way (hallucinations), (3) talking in strange ways (prayer, speaking in tongues as some Evangelicals do), (4) delusions ("All I need to do to be saved is accept Jesus as my savior"), (5) social isolation, by surrounding themselves with other Christians who think just like them, since free thought is perceived as dangerous. It is very difficult for me to take these people seriously as their world is a fairy tale based on myth rather than reality.

Even though religion is a crutch and a mild form of mental illness, I can be reasonable enough to recognize some good if it's used properly. If it teaches tolerance, humility, generosity and compassion then it can be very powerful. However, all too often it focuses on superficial things like prayer, public worship, going to church, and continuously self-proclaiming oneself as a Christian, all of which means absolutely nothing. Religion will never be worth its salt UNLESS IT SOMEHOW MAKES THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE. Church-goers, priests, and pastors are just as flawed as anyone else, and shouldn't warrant automatic respect simply because they have appointed themselves positions of power in a church.

Now, as far as church goes, it serves no real purpose other than a self-serving need for born-again Christians to surround themselves with people who think/believe the same myths as they do because free thought is frowned upon in their club. Church is really nothing other than a poor man's country club. The tithe is the membership fee and it's exclusive because it only allows certain members in. If you don't pay your dues and fit the mold, you are an outsider (sinner).

So please take religion for what it is: a mild form of schizophrenia.

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i am non-christian and hated it. BOOOOORing mim rogre's ta ta's were the best part. i gave it a 6 for those tig o bittys

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I haven't seen this movie yet but I actually do love films with religious stories. The whole idea really is kind of fascinating to me, I just don't believe it's reality. I have two friends who are very Christian and I would bet on them not liking it before me. Not sure, since I haven't seen this, though. But they did refuse to see The Da Vinci Code or Angels and Demons because they don't support "that kinda thing."

"Are you gonna shoot me?"
"That depends. Do you see me?"

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I thought this movie ridiculous. So unbelievable. So full of religious cliches which mean nothing, really, like all cliches they've lost meaning. And the non-cliches are fantastic and not reality. I think this movie was written by someone who read the words but didn't understand them...who has absolutely no clue.

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Hi, Roy. I'll try. I am a Christian. Went to a Catholic school, have been looked after by the Catholic church in one way or another all my life. I delight in this group of Christians as well as the Pentacostals. They (the Pentacostals) showed me how to bring God into my life in a very real way. Spirituality - not just religion - comes easily to me. (I think )I understand how it works in a very deep way with the help of what I've read and seen and my own 'inspirationals'. However practical things I find very hard to do and to come to grips with. So with that explained perhaps it's understandable why I found the movie to be a phony on a spiritual level. I felt it was written by people who'd gathered together a bunch of biblical and religious cliches but had no inkling as to what they meant on a real level. This stuff works and has life-changing power, can bring the greatest feeling of love and joy into our being - as the title of the movie suggests. However it doesn't work the way the movie tries to portray.

Or did I misunderstand the movie? Were they not intending us to take the character played by Minnie seriously? Was she meant to be a border-line nut case? Well, that's how she came across to me.

The Bible is about explaining to us what is going on and how we can best work around the difficult circumstances we're in. Life is a battle ground between positive and negative forces. I'm not talking about externals; this is something that all takes place in the mind and the resulting emotions and attitude. Increase people's awareness and you change their lives for the better and for the betterment of the people around them. This is what the Bible seeks to do. It's all written in love to help us find answers and happiness.

Churches seek to be the bridge between the physical world and the Divine. And to reach out and help those who are having problems helping themselves. I think the people in the Catholic Church have changed the world in a very practical way through the help they've given others and the inspiration they've brought to people by showing that to find love and happiness you must give it away. The greatest joy I have in life is knowing that a being who is so powerful, so wise and so good loves me - on a very personal level. I've felt Him in my heart when in prayer speaking words of love. This is something for all of us. Something that can be relied upon. Something we all need. I think we all suffer greatly during our time here in the physical world, and we need all the help we can get.

If I haven't answered properly, it's because of limitations of which I have many...not because of any limitations in the way God works.

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