Things I learned from Hard to Kill - Hard to Kill (1990) Discussion

[–] la_coast 18 years ago

and finally...no no wait,you are still playing with your little "Winah".
how old are you?!?13
go find a girl and forgot the playstation.
It's obvious that your a 'mommas son' pal.

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[–] stryteler 18 years ago

Actually Trent lost his teeth...there was blood all over his mouth.

Kelly is NOT ugly...I love her body and voice.

Storm cured himself with chinese medience and some intense workouts.

Storm was driven by revenge and justice.

I think you need to watch the movie again...you might learn something.

LOL!!!

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[–] gugutza 18 years ago

the fights are very bad directed. very unrealistic.
B movie.

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[–] Argyle302 11 years ago

Strom shoves the shotgun barrell in his mouth, and a split second later Senator Trent has a blood ring around his mouth, like he goofed up trying to put lipstick on. It looked like "third grade" stuff. Why not just run a trickle of blood down his lower lip?!

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[–] tj1984 18 years ago

I learned.....

- Fat bald guys who run little quickie marts would make a good porno.

- They also hate the Oscars.

- Chuck Mangione is great music after kicking ass.

- You hairline is magically restored since your last film.

- Aikido is the ultimate form of Street Fighting.

- Seagal has no muscle.

- Christian Tissier should of been in this movie.

- Benching the bar is difficult when you weigh 200 lbs.

- Getting blasted at point blank with a double barrel shotgun doesn't kill you. It just puts you in a peaceful coma for seven years

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[–] mearl_21 18 years ago

The anticipation of death is far worse than death itself.

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[–] wheels128 18 years ago

- After being in a coma for seven years, you can easily escape a trained killer by maneouvering your hospital bed through a hospital with a broomstick.

- Trained killers don't actually kill their targets, they just shout "I'm gonna get you, Storm!" again... and again... and again.

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[–] camruud 18 years ago

The best way to take on a bunch of heavily armed villains when you are unarmed is to scream "motherfackers" and charge them. You can take that to the bank.

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[–] Nakrophile 18 years ago

When surrounded in a public place by multiple assailants brandishing guns, the best course of action would be to kick a man through a window. And then throw him through another.

*beep* you and die" is the best pre-death one liner ever.

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[–] liamolf 18 years ago

That if you are best friends with Steven Segal, you can raise his child for seven years, cover up his feigned death, give up your career and die trying to protect his son for him, and in end he won't give a toss...

"I got one! I fackin' got one!"
"What do you want, a fackin' sweetie?! Keep shooting ya' *beep*

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[–] mav_goose_ice 18 years ago

It is possible to make the tyres of a jeep screech on grass

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[–] Travis-Hahn 18 years ago

-Trained killers will openly murder people in a crowded hospital without blinking an eye. They will not however make any attempt to prevent an elevator door from closing.

-It's impossible to stop an elevator door from closing

-If a man has information and video footage that would put you in prison it's best to let him sleep helplessly in a coma for seven years. Only when he awakes and is capable of escape should you finally committ to having him killed.

-When a trained killer is tracking an individual he's been trying to kill for seven years punching out a male nurse takes precedent over finishing off the man you were sent to kill.

-In hospitals televisions turn themselves on to reveal the days current events, only to inexplicably turn themselves off 15 seconds later.

-It's possible to exit a building from the exact same side in the exact same room 30 seconds after that room was riddled with machine gun fire without attractin the attention of the people trying to kill you.

-Squinting your eyes will prevent 99% of the bullets flying at your windshield from penetrating the vehicle.

-Even in the United States it's common for police personel to chase individuals through crowded shopping centers with guns blazing. If the a corrupt senator's personal hitsquad wants to tag along that's OK too.

-The quickest way to enter a mall is undoubtably to go through the fountain of water in front of the building.

-A man will retain a robust penis size even after being impotent for a seven year period.

-It's common when remodelling a house for carpenters to simply fold up an ironing board and paint over it. This allows for quick access to any long lost antiques, time capsules or surveillance equipment to be easily retrieved many years later.

-Carjackers willingly accept vehicles which have been riddled with bullets.

-Breaking a mans neck in public is unlikely to attract any police presence.

-Penetrating the compound of a United States Senator who is currently in danger of being killed is quite simple really. Just go through the unlocked windows in the basement...they lead straight to the game room.

-Never hand Steven Seagal a pool cue, especially if he asks.

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[–] BartSmith85 12 years ago

-If a man has information and video footage that would put you in prison it's best to let him sleep helplessly in a coma for seven years. Only when he awakes and is capable of escape should you finally committ to having him killed.

Actually, they didn't know he was alive.

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[–] kstenbch 11 years ago

Why don't you actually watch the movie. This time, shut up and actually listen and pay attention. This movie came out before Kill Bill and many of the other cops movies of the 90s and 2000s. Stop reflecting upon it like it came out today. It makes you sound stupid. They thought he was dead until the nurse called Internal Affair when Storm woke up. This is standard procedure when someone wakes up from a coma. Look up their info. and notify someone.

Elevator doors have smooth surfaces, so their is no way to stop it from closing. Most elevators don't have handles on the outside. If you do stick your hand inside, that crunch you will hear is your hand being smashed when the heavy elevator door closes. Elevator doors weigh about 50-100 pounds, so by all means, stick your hand in the door. Pressing the button may or may not stop the door from closing, and if the button inside has been pressed, it may go up anyway. This will all take a few seconds.

Most of the non-uniformed cops in the movie are corrupt cops that work for Calidreze (the mob boss) and now Vernon Trent. They're not super cops. They don't have survival training. Most of Seagal's characters in his movies are cops with military and survival training. His fellow cops, especially the ones coming after him rarely have the same training.

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[–] mtthw435 17 years ago

I also loved how the house she took him to conveniently had a dojo inside it.

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[–] peep4000 14 years ago

"- Trained killers don't actually kill their targets, they just shout "I'm gonna get you, Storm!" again... and again... and again."

LOLOLOLOL that is hilarious!!!

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[–] Monknificent 8 years ago

When breaking into the presumably heavily guarded mansion of a rich, corrupt senator by doing a spot of impromptu wall scaling, make sure you do it dressed in the three-piece suit you used earlier as cover of respectability to get inside your old house; whatever you do, DO NOT remove your blazer for ease of movement.

When faced with four of said corrupt senator's men inside his house, whom you should expect to be on high alert and carrying concealed handguns, put away your own gun so you can engage them in hand-to-hand combat - you know, to give them a chance. Even though you intent to kill them anyway.

"It's too late... Always has been, always will be...
Too late."

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[–] ThingyBlahBlah3 18 years ago

Nice!

* It's possible to get third billing in a Seagal movie even if you're only in it for five minutes (Cheers, Bill Sadler! And don't feel bad about leaving this one off your resume).

* All bad guys have the 'evil' gene; for some unknown reason, it also causes osteoporosis at a young age, which is why their arms and legs break so easily.

* Low-level thugs never change jobs over a seven-year period; hence, everybody who worked for Trent in 1982 still works for him in 1989.

* There are no penalties for beating the living hell out someone and then slowly strangling them to death in a public place. And the people who are watching will instinctively root for the good guy and boo the bad guy, even though they shouldn't know which one is which. And it's not in bad taste to take a moment to reunite with your long-lost son while standing over the dead body of a guy you just killed in front of him.

* For that matter, you can also break into a senator's house, kill his employees (including a police captain!), and hold the senator himself at gunpoint while you smack him around and threaten to castrate him, and when the cops show up, they won't arrest you or even detain you for questioning.

* However, if a hostage situation ensues, the police negotiator will allow the situation to drag out for a few minutes before revealing that he's seen the tape that exonerates the hostage-taker.

* Bad movies can be more entertaining than good movies.

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[–] kstenbch 11 years ago

The "low level thugs" are LAPD cops, since no one knows or can prove what they did, why would they change jobs? Also, not everyone still worked for him. They were rewarded for what they did. That is why they are still working for Trent and the LAPD after 7 years.

Quintero does not announce himself as a cop when he fights storm in Chinatown. Quintero is a bully and acts like a bully trying to taunt Storm. Remember, the money and drugs when Mason was shot was 7 years earlier, most people probably didn't remember and didn't know what to think. They say Quintero chasing down a kid and saw Mason, his father kick Quintero in the butt and fight him. Most people would cheer the father, not the guy chasing a 16 year old kid. Quintero cannot announce himself as a cop, Storm had called the press and said he was innocent. He said he had proof and would turn it over to the press. So, charges of corruption and being mobbed-up would have been flying. Trent and his thugs were the only ones who knew what was going on, and not all of them knew everything.

If the thugs (cops) were chasing Storm, and no one knew what they had done, including that Trent had hired the mob to kill the late Senator Caldwell, then as far as the public knew, Trent was in no danger. No additional Secret Service protection would be offered to Senator Trent. He didn't need them. Trent and his thugs were the only ones who knew Storm had reason to go after Trent. They were at his mansion for protection, but Storm killed them in the billiard room. Except for Captain Holland, that was the extent of Trent's security detail. Congressmen and Senators do not have Secret Service details without cause or need. except maybe for one. This must be requested. If Trent had requested someone, questions would be asked. In a Senator's home state, protection at rallies and events is usually provided by police. At home, none is provided unless required for a reason. Asking for security would have prompted questions, and he had his thugs from the LAPD who attacked the Storms in the 1st place. Why would Trent want to bring in more, when it would attract attention?

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[–] BrohmaBull007 18 years ago

I learned the anticipation of dieing is worse than death itself

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[–] capt_rhodes 18 years ago

6. Kelly Le Brock is ugly"
you must be thinking of her modern-day counterpart Kelly The Hut.

They're Coming To Get You, Barbra.....

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[–] masterofpainrlz 18 years ago

1 - Apparently, straight punches qualify as a "martial arts" workout.

2 - Chicks get all stary-eyed (and horny) over said workout and watching a guy jog up a hill.

3 - If a man has compromising footage of you, it's perfectly normal to just kill said man and his family without EVER worrying about the *beep* footage.

4 - When attacking the good guy with a knife FROM BEHIND, you have to give him a few seconds to make his move.

5 - The only time Seagal is not immune to bullets is during sex. Otherwise, even machineguns and non-existing cover won't do.

6 - Semi-hot nurses have nothing better to do than ogle comatose patient. Oh, and it's not creepy AT ALL to ogle comatose patient.

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[–] Argyle302 11 years ago

Yeah, like Storm was gonna take time out to graffitti the walls with that schlock. And what? Did he just find a red felt tip pen to do so just laying around? Or did he just use the red lipstick that they used to put the blood around Senator Trents mouth?!

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[–] ThingyBlahBlah3 18 years ago

* When house-sitting for her boss in his isolated palatial mansion, a hot young woman won't even tell her friends about it, to say nothing about inviting them over for a party.

* Any cop who isn't your partner is corrupt. This is such an iron-clad rule that you don't even need to act surprised when you find out that half of the department works for the main bad guy.

* Sometimes broken bones can heal themselves instantly, and leave no trace of injury. This is demonstrated by the guy who gets his wrist broken just before Storm and his wife get shot. He seems to be in a lot of pain, but when they're walking back to the van a minute later, he shows no sign of being hurt. (To quote Lisa Simpson, "Uh, this might be one of those things you should go to the hospital for.")

* When portraying someone who's just come out of a seven-year coma, the best acting choice is to do a bad Marlon Brando impression (although Seagal wouldn't have the right physique for several more years).

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[–] uzi_suicide58 18 years ago

1. Comatose patients are not shaved, groomed and also don't have any monitoring equipment hooked to them.

2.If they let his hair and beard grow, did they cut his toenails?

3.comatose people don't have cathters or anything, they just let it fly.

4.Although I've studied various martial arts for 20 years, I can't wake up in the am and start doing spinning hook kicks ect. But apparently the comatose can come to and after a day or two start phucking people up.

5.segal muscle does'nt get atrophied cuz he's THAT badass.

6. He regained all bodily function over night

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[–] general_razor_cs-1 18 years ago

1. a guy can be in a coma for 7 years and when he wakes up he has a nurse wanting him... dude take a shower man
- They clean/bathe him

2. a guy can be in a coma and wake up and get a shave and look like he hadn't aged a bit
-actually, more or less... pretty much

3. a guy can take an hour and 20 minutes to realize who says and you can take that to the bank
yeah well...

4. a guy can get shot in the arm with a shotgun and still have an arm.
cost lot's of money in 1990 to have a good effect like that

5. a kid can get shot at and all the dudes shooting are horrible shots.
pretty much

6. Kelly Le Brock is ugly
I disagree

7. Steven Seagal could make a good movie, one of the few

8. a guy could get down his knees and say come cut my heart out, and the dude is such a bad thug
I do not understand your point

9. Steven Seagal can kill anyone
yup lol

10. a guy can have a sawn off shotgun jammed down his mouth and not lose any teeth
the shotgun knocked all of his teeth out

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[–] camruud 17 years ago

If you got a superior attitude and superior state of mind, you can be 100% sure to win.

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[–] floydspinky71 17 years ago

You can instantly recover from a seven-year coma in a matter of days.

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[–] o_placid_o 17 years ago

- If you're in a coma for seven years, you can easily wake up and be just as tanned as you were before. Sun penetrates hospital walls, bedsheets, and clothing.

- If you name your kid Sonny, you have to spread your "badass-edness" all over the news so that every person he ever meets won't kick his ass.

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[–] Dachunde 17 years ago

1.) 'I thought you'd like a flower' is the GREATEST chat up line EVER and leads to an immediate shag on the floor.

2.) Even though you thought he was dead, haven't seen him for 7 years and he just got shot at, there is NO need to look your son in the eye when you reunite...instead rub his head and break some dude's neck in front of several eye witnesses.

3.) If you were once a cop revenge killings go unpunished.

4.) Unless it stars Erika Eleniak's breasts ANY Seagal film will be hilariously awful. In a really good way.

5.) Steven Seagal runs like a special olympics entrant.

6.) A 7 year coma is enough time to 'mourn' your murdered wife...so that you can screw the first nurse that takes you to a hillside retreat.

7.) If a random woman saves your life, trust her with the investigation of your murdered family and invite her on holiday after you've slain 12 bad-guys in unarmed combat.

8.) Mason Storm is harder than the bride = 7years, no sword. He CAN wiggle his big toe.

'Thats for my wife. F@CK you and DIE!'

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[–] kidacomputerok 17 years ago

Why would someone kick a kid's ass just because he's named Sonny? Surely they would have seen "The Godfather."

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[–] VegasBuckeye 16 years ago

Steven Seagal runs like he is covered in bees.

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[–] trickg1 15 years ago

"Steven Seagal runs like he is covered in bees."

ROFLMAO! That's one of the most hiliarious things I have ever read!

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[–] Captain_Bob 15 years ago

If you grew up in the late 80's you regularly had sex at 11:30 during Johnny Carson's monologue. (well I did at least).

If you want to hide a supposedly dead guy, change his name to something inconspicuous like "John Doe".

If you're a corrupt politician it's ok to talk loudly about your covered-up crimes if it's somewhere safe - like at one of your own rallies next to a large crowd.

If you say "you can take that to the bank" enough times, Steven Seagal WILL remember.

If a sexy woman says "You've got to believe me, you're safe here ok?" it means it's ok to shave off your beard and *beep* her.

Weight training has more effect if you read some Chinese in between sessions.

If Steven Seagal sits on a hilltop for more than 10 seconds, a hawk call is guaranteed.

Saxophones are unavoidable even in 1990!

If you're Seagal in a jeep about to crash into a low brick wall, magic ramps appear and allow you to heroically jump over.

If Seagal steals your car, it will go unharmed as long as it's a Corvette (time-honored pussy magnet).

If fighting Seagal, "let's see whatcha got" are definitely your final words.

When you KNOW Seagal is after you, it's time to casually shoot some pool with the guys.

And of course... "anticipation of death is worse than death itself".

If Steven Seagal starts calling out "Vernon oh Vernon" it's game over man (provided your name is Vernon).

If you, the viewer, didn't mouth the words "I missed... I never miss" ...you're lying!

Great Flick!

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