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Vincent Schiavelli Story: Interesting Take

posted 8 years ago by williampum
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When Sam Wheat Starts to try to get to know Vincent Schiavellis character, theres a few things I found interesting about the whole sequence.

1.) Vincent says, or claims He was Pushed down, or 'they pushed me'.

Did he mean he was Pushed, as in Literally pushed, off a cliff or did he refer to possibly he was pushed into making a decision in his life that altered him and his situation for the Worst?

Whatever he meant by that, seems to indicate, he committed suicide.

While he does go out of his way to teach Sam how to physically move an object, as there is always some good in everyboody, he was and is obviously a miserable person, and one does not have to be a Christian to know and understand his soul is Burning in Hell. And I say this because his character when he kicks the Cigarrete dispensor, it bursts open and he is so dependent on the Cigarrette, he says hed give anything to have one.

This leads me to believe he was attatched to the Physical World (many of us are in some ways) but his passions were addictions and not for the better.

I leave with 1 last question, and that is did the demons which took both Willie Lopez and Carl, did those demons take him earlier, and his presense in the movie is supposed to indicate a 'Hellish' exsistance or state of mind?

I certainly believe so.

Love to hear your thoughts.

[–] True_Love 8 years ago

No, it's pretty obvious. I was 8 years old when I saw this movie and I understood what happened to the guy.

He was pushed off the subway platform. That's why he screams "It wasn't my time. I'm not supposed to be here!" He's endlessly riding the trains for all eternity because it was so unfair that someone pushed him.

And so what if he's yearning for a cigarette? He just misses something from when he was alive. Doesn't make him a bad person.

[–] cococlown 8 years ago

I think so, too.

[–] Ashaod43 8 years ago

He commited suicide. If he was pushed he would have probably went to heaven. He didnt want to say he killed himself because he was ashamed.

[–] WestGreat 8 years ago

I think he meant society pushed him into killing himself (like falling into an oncoming subway), or maybe he was crazy (like 'they' being voices in his head) or he was homeless/unemployed and felt like suicide was the only option for him. he was obviously a very disturbed soul nonetheless

[–] lexyladyjax 8 years ago

Vincent is mental. That's why he wasn't taken by the Shadows. He did commit suicide but he doesn't remember because he's a paranoid schizophrenic. He certainly has the symptoms.

Bored now.

[–] Kate_Lillie 8 years ago

I think ur smoking something dude.
As for being pushed I think he was pushed in front of a train

[–] TheMociety 7 years ago

I think it was suicide. Just because he gets too defensive when Sam asks him "someone pushed you?". That and the fact that he never moved on.

If you're not taking any steps forward, you're not moving at all.

[–] soswa84 (6) 5 years ago

Yeah I go back and forth on this, seems like on the one hand he was physically pushed but also he got real defensive when Sam asked him further about it saying "yeah someone pushed me" "you don't believe me, well fuck you". Maybe life pushed him to jump in front of the train and all those remarks including the drag comments mean he's regretting his choice. I'm sure Sam might have offered to push around the supposed killers had the subway ghost given him the chance to i.d them.

[–] PaladinNJ (20357) 4 years ago

I think it was an accident. The authorities probably ruled it a suicide. He can't accept that it wasn't done to him on purpose and that's why he's stuck. Just my opinion, no official source.

[–] strntz (10946) 4 years ago

Of course it was an accident. This isn't real life, so all we get are what's on the screen, and the actor's portrayal of what happened. The subway ghost was effing pissed he was pushed in front of the train and it showed in his face, his speech, and his actions. If it was meant that he was "pushed" by society into killing himself and him lying about a suicide, his explanation of what happened to him would have reflected that lie, not in words necessarily but definitely in expressions as required by the director of the film.