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New tournament rules

posted 8 years ago by mark_ward1
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What kind of competition gives the previous year's champion a free ride to the final round? That would be like the NFL giving the Broncos an automatic trip to to the AFC playoffs because they had won Superbowl 50. So Daniel gets to sit on his a-- the whole afternoon while Barnes fights his way through multiple opponents? None of those guys were a challenge to Barnes, but still, it's not very fair. Then again, Daniel was so out of shape, there's no way he could have made it past round 2 so it's the only conceivable way he could even get a shot a Barnes.

By the way, I love how Barnes refused to bow to Daniel and merely nodded his head when the referee demanded he do so.

[–] wears-alan 8 years ago

By the way, I love how Barnes refused to bow to Daniel and merely nodded his head when the referee demanded he do so.

You love that Barnes disrespected the very art that he was hoping to make a lot money out of?
Because get at least one thing straight here, it wasn't Daniel he was disrespecting, it was Karate itself!

If those pen pushers up at city hall don't like it,well, they swivel on this middle digit!

[–] cruisin109 (1982) 2 years ago

Karate is not a defensive art…. It is an offensive sport. Get it right this is not a knitting class!

[–] CaptainC05 8 years ago

Barnes didnt disrespect anytthing. He tore through opponents, kicked the defending champions ass and entertained the crowd with high level karate and his passion for victory. LaRusso disrespected the tournament, the crowd, miyagay and himself by being so out of shape, fighting so poorly and with so much fear and wanting to quit at the end instead of getting up (on his own accord) and completing the match like a man

[–] mark_ward1 8 years ago

If I had been in the crowd and seen Mike Barnes's karate during the tournament, I definitely would signed up at a Cobra Kai school.

[–] wears-alan 8 years ago

Barnes didnt disrespect anytthing.

Yeah, I thought he was an a55hole too!

If those pen pushers up at city hall don't like it,well, they swivel on this middle digit!

[–] fivepointstar 8 years ago

Given how he fought for basically the entire match against Barnes and his physical condition, it's really debatable whether or not, Daniel would have even made it to the final round.

[–] wears-alan 8 years ago

It's not really debatable is it? He would have run out of steam long before the final.

[–] fivepointstar 8 years ago

That's what I think.

[–] Doc80 8 years ago

If he had any respect he wouldn't have repeatedly broken rules intentionally in order to lose points.

[–] herbsuperb 8 years ago

Pretty sure that was to save money on expensive tournament scenes. But I don't really know.

[–] millsey72 (9606) 2 years ago

Maybe we will find out next season that Silver bribed the officials to have this rule stand so it would give Daniel more leverage to fight in the tournament

[–] NRC123 (2082) 2 years ago

It’s unlikely Daniel would have made the final again. His run in ‘84 was a complete fluke. Macchio himself would have had a difficult time filming another montage in his shape.

[–] millsey72 (9606) 2 years ago

But wearsalan told me Daniel would have easily won the Finals, even if he didn't get a free pass

[–] NRC123 (2082) 2 years ago

Wearsalan is prone to making outlandish claims. He also thinks he could beat Mike Barnes in a street fight and that he was once part of Great Britain’s national karate team.

[–] millsey72 (9606) 2 years ago

I noticed that too about wearsalan. What a shame

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

I could and I was.

[–] millsey72 (9606) 2 years ago

You were a karate champion in Great Britain?

[–] NRC123 (2082) 2 years ago

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Yes.

[–] NRC123 (2082) 2 years ago

There’s nothing you have that Barnes can’t counter. Your karate’s a joke and everyone here knows it.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Nobody here knows anything then if they believe that.

[–] cruisin109 (1982) 2 years ago

WA how could you have defeated Mike Barnes? Barnes was nationally recognized as a tournament terror…. the only karate fighter to ever earn the rank of “bad boy”. He breezed through the tournament without breaking a sweat (with his chest staples up to boot) and still had Daniel of the ground begging to home…. Wouldn’t you be in awe and fear if Barnes met you on the mat??

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Why would I be in awe of Barnes? I was a national and international champion.

[–] cruisin109 (1982) 2 years ago

Were you ever featured in a magazine like Barnes was?

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Yes, but you already asked this some time ago.

[–] cruisin109 (1982) 2 years ago

Then why didn’t I read it? Also did they feature your face blown up on the page and bestow upon you the name of tournament terror?

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Why are you asking me why YOU didn't read it?

Also did they feature your face blown up on the page and bestow upon you the name of tournament terror?

Because unlike Barnes I was a clean fighter.

[–] cruisin109 (1982) 2 years ago

The mag Barnes was featured in was prolific and everyone knew who he was. Also Barnes didn’t fight dirty… he simply used the point system to his advantage with the win/lose point strategy.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Of course he was dirty. That's why Pat Johnson warns him that he won't tolerate any of his antics.

[–] cruisin109 (1982) 2 years ago

Why is there a lose a point mechanism in karate matches then? Why isn’t a fighter immediately disqualified for a violation instead of only having to give up a point??? Side note, what happens if you lose a point when you’re at zero? Can you get negative points?

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Why is there a lose a point mechanism in karate matches then? Why isn’t a fighter immediately disqualified for a violation instead of only having to give up a point???

The lose a point is for lesser infractions.

Why isn’t a fighter immediately disqualified for a violation instead of only having to give up a point???

Because the violations are major infractions. Like kicking some one in the groin or hitting them after the ref has stopped the fight and the fighters are returning to their lines.

We've already done this and despite my best efforts to educate you, you remain obtuse.

[–] cruisin109 (1982) 2 years ago

Nothing serious occurred then to warrent DQing Barnes.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Why are you being so obtuse?
I distinctly mention the kick to the groin and the deliberate punch after the ref stops the fight and it goes right over your head.

What a numpty!

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Millsey millsey millsey. You are lying, shame on you. I said no such thing to you.

[–] millsey72 (9606) 2 years ago

I could have sworn I read one of your posts that stated this. If I'm mistaken, my bad

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

You are mistaken

[–] millsey72 (9606) 2 years ago

Then my bad

[–] MrBuzzcut (54) 2 years ago

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[–] MrBuzzcut (54) 2 years ago

Good point millsey.

Silver's entire plan to humiliate those two clowns depended on Whineielle being in the finals, which clearly would not have happened absent this strange rule.