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This was worse than Resurrection and RZH1&2, to be honest


At least those had some redeeming qualities even if they didn't need to be made! This film however is bland, the Myers house isn't supposed to be a big 3-story mansion, it's supposed to be a 2-story house. Jamie Lloyd is nearly mute for the first half of the film and the characters are so 1-denominational they make Friday The 13th's characters look Shakespearean in comparison. The only good thing about this film was the laundry chute towards the end of the film and maybe the police station explosion but that's it. Even H6 is superior, at least they got the Myers house right in that one and I heard the Producer's Cut version was really good!

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I actually agree, I think this one is the worst movie in the franchise.

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Yes.It's the worst sequel amongst a very average to below average group of sequels.

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No it wasn't.
'Resurrection' & any film after it was horrible.

'Halloween 5' was literally the last watchable entry in this series.



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Not a chance. Anything with Loomis in it is still better than Resurrection, and the second RZ movie is complete trash. The first one isn't much better, but I at least felt like he was somewhat trying to deliver a Halloween movie.

Mind you, I can't completely defend H5. It's a really uneven movie, to put it nicely, with a lot of goofy sh!t. But there's just something to the subtle ambition of hinting towards the origin of Michael's evil and some dark human presence aiding Michael's actions that I still enjoy, even if the payoff was ultimately crap. And while the whole "stopping the rage" plan came right the f--k out of nowhere, it's still Loomis, and I find myself feeling so satisfied every time he beats the living hell out of Michael.

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I agree, damkylan. Any sequel with Loomis is better than Ressurection and the RZ Halloween movies. Part 5 wasn't great, by any means. The script could have been so much better, I wanted Rachel to be the lead and I wish Jamie wasn't mute throughout most of the movie, but it had Loomis and still felt like a Halloween movie. I prefer part 4, any day, but this one is great, compared to later entries.

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I'm gonna be "that guy" here. If you ignore the whole man in black plot, and take H4 and H5 by themselves, I'd say they are almost on a par with H1 and H2.

The reason I say this is that the whole concept of Halloween (the festival) is geared towards younger kids having fun. This for me, means Jamie Lloyd makes a far better (believable) victim then Laurie Strode.

I was never convinced that Laurie deserved any sympathy. Someone her age should really know better and get help, yet she continuously put herself in danger. Conversely, Jamie, being so young, is at the mercy of adults, and to a certain extent is a victim of THEIRS as well as Michael Myers.

I'm not saying H1 and H2 were worse, and yeah, the ending to H5 really was awful, but... well, "that guy" has spoken.

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Disagree about Laurie putting herself in danger. She literally runs next door screaming for help and is ignored. She tries to call for help but the phone line is seemingly cut. She's also trying to balance this with keeping close enough to the kids to know what's going on with them. Wouldn't it be a shame if she ran a block away for help and returned with police 15 minutes later to find the kids murdered?

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Not by a long shot Halloween resurrection had no character like to point I was glad Michael Myers killed them and that Busta Rhythm karat Michael was pathetic

the only thing I didn't like in Halloween 5 are two dopey cops and Billy that kid got on my nerve and they killed Rachel way too early


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This WAS the worst sequel back in 1989 when it came out. Now, I'd have to say Resurrection is probably the worst, in spite of the fact that I enjoy that movie in all of its ridiculousness. I'm one of the rare ones who enjoy Part 6, and I think H20 is okay, although I don't think it's nearly as good as I did when I was thirteen.

I think the main problem I have with Part 5 is you have no characters to identify with aside from Loomis— Rachel dies early on, Tina is underdeveloped, and Jamie frankly spends 3/4 of the movie silently writhing around on a hospital bed. Then they show up at the Myers house which has randomly transformed into the Addams Family mansion— I dunno. It's just a weak movie.

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They really made the mistake of pushing it so quickly. Only a year between 4 and 5. Had it taken longer, been developed better, it might have been better. There were parts I was never comfortable with, the psychic link seemed too hokey and not realistic, more sci fi. Michael crying. Even the botched opening where you clearly see a short haired unmasked Michael (Shanks w/o the wig) and then the shadowy wigged unmasking later.

The house didn't bother me. You'd think they'd change the look after 11 years because it was originally so rundown in 1978. Plus, it's a serial killer's home, unlike Ed Gein's home, which was destroyed, they needed it storyline wise, so they altered it to make it unrecognizable, not such a landmark. Even the Amityville House changed it's look, but not size in order to deter tourists.

Could you actually see a laundry shoot sequence in a house the size of the original? And that was one of the better parts of the movie. They had to outdo 4's rooftop chase. Also, with the absence of the house in 4, I'm glad they brought it back. It's as much a staple of the series as Michael, Loomis and Haddonfield, which up until H20, each film except 3 and 4 had them all in it.

Side thought, am I the only one that thought 5's Man in Black retraced Michael's steps in 4? We first see him in front of the place where Michael got his mask in 4, the first place Michael stopped. Then he's at the Myers' house when Loomis goes there, we don't know Michael's whereabouts between Discount Mart and watching Rachel in 4. Just a thought.

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Resurrection is the only sequel I can't even get through. I mean, I've seen it. But re-watching it is like pulling teeth. The dialogue is flat-out awful, Busta Rhymes cannot act and him using martial arts on Michael was ridiculous, and even the normally great Katee Sackhoff couldn't manage to not be irritating. Don't even get me started on the acting skills of the lead--when she was attacking Michael with the chainsaw screaming "This is for Rudy! This is for Jen!" I wanted to break the projector in my theater. UGH.

As for Zombie's H2, honestly, that film gets so much crap and it's sad because it is the ONLY Halloween film other than part 3 that even attempted to change genres and be something other than a routine slice-and-dice. Halloween 3 was more sci-fi/Invasion of the Body Snatchers and H2 was a dark drama with some horror mixed in. Every single character has their flaws on their sleeve the entire movie, it deals with dark issues such as depression and anxiety, Laurie is a total mess, and everyone has changed because of the events of the first film. This is how a sequel should be. Not Rachel bouncing around to a pop song while searching for a nice sweater on the anniversary of her attack a year earlier.

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You know, that film for me was God-awful until the final 15-20 minutes. Then it actually turned into a Halloween film. But everything up to that point was just half-assed *beep* written and directed by people who should have never been given the reigns of a film in this franchise. The idea was one I HATED when I first saw it. What person in the right mind would spend 5 minutes in that house much less an entire night?

Just plain *beep* stupid.

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