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Why was Linda Hunt chosen to play this part?


She's a woman, isn't she?
Billy is supposed to be a man, right?

I don't have a problem with it but I wonder if there was a deeper purpose...

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The only reason Peter Weir picked Linda Hunt-according to Weir, himself-was that he didn't think he could find any man that could play it better than she could....What a brilliantly subtle performance...A lot like a lead...Reminds me a lot of Paul Bettany's great performance in Weir's most recent Masterpiece, Master And Commander: The Far Side Of The World.

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Besides, she took home the academy award for her performance.

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Absolutely well deserved.

The emotional weight behind her subtle performance was the anchor that kept this movie grounded. I don't think there's any other actor out there who could have turned in such a brilliant piece of work.

Before finishing up the movie I was already thinking to myself "if Hunt didn't win an academy award for this film I'm going to make an IMDB post about."

After checking the awards, it was made obvious Hunt won and I didn't have to make a post about it.

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A woman to play a guy? An anglo woman to play an ASIAN guy? It's an insult to asian guys, Wier is just a plain idiot.

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Have you seen the film?

Regardless of her ethnicity, or her gender - she did a marvelous job. Of all the characters in this film, she's the one that stands out the most. Well deserved Oscar.

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Did she do a marvelous job? That's a question that's been bugging me since I saw the movie shortly after it came out. Didn't even notice the guy in the lead, BTW. ;-) So much had been made of Linda Hunt. She's a great actress. I've seen her in other things. But....


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Yeah, what's his name again? [scratches head]

I thought she was compelling, in the film. I knew nothing about the film going into it (except it had Gibson and Weaver in it, and was directed by Peter Weir), as per usual, but I recognized her immediately. I second guessed myself, because she really did come off as a small man. I doubted that she was who I thought she was.

I mean, if I'm left asking myself at the end of the movie if her portrayal was credible -- I know more manly females even now -- is that portrayal really credible if I have to question it? I kept looking at her hands and how she used them, and to me it was a dead give away. I saw Greta Garbo play a woman playing a man, and playing that man more convincingly.


As I said, I recognized her when she first came on screen. For awhile there, I wasn't sure if "Billy" (or "Billie") was supposed to be a man, or not. Once it was her gender was mentioned, I doubted if this was the actor I thought of, originally. Speaking as a guy (and an observant one), she had me fooled (or, at least, second guessing myself).

As a performance, it's an interesting study. But since it left me scratching my head, I can't say it's a great one. Good one. Interesting one. But most of all a curiosity. Which leaves poor Linda Hunt, who deserved better, as a gimmick in a plot-hash of a movie.


I thought it was a pretty good film. I gave it a 7.4 (though, as almost always happens, that rating'll probably drop over time). It had it's problems, but it was well directed, and well acted. I was drawn in, and felt for the characters. Since that's the point of film - I think it did it's job.

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That "second guessing" yourself is probably the "head scratching" I'm talking about.


By "second guessing", I meant that I recognized the actor as female, but, by the end, doubted my original belief (re: I thought I was mistaken, and the actor was really a man). I don't think it's the same thing.

Me, I like characterizations in movies more than convoluted plots. Some critics have said they couldn't follow "Mission Impossible" -- I thought it was pretty simple. But this one, I found difficult. I may have been distracted by Hunt's charcter too much, though. And Sigourney Weaver. Man, that gal has legs! ;-) But, as I recall, her character was such that I couldn't understand the lead's interest in her, or Billy's. She seemed a pain in the neck to me.


Really? I didn't get that at all. I knew why everyone loved Weaver's character. She's beautiful, intelligent, and untouchable. And they're stuck in a place where there's no one like that, where they bond with any and all westerners - because it's the closest thing to home they have.

BTW, did anyone finally answer the question of why Linda Hunt was chosen for the part? How DID that come about, anyhow?


No one answered it, to my knowledge. It's an interesting question, and I'd like to know how that came about.

I thought it was a brilliant move, in any case. She did a superb job. I can't see anyone playing it as well as she did.

Little by little the look of the country changes because of the men we admire.

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Haing S. Ngor, perhaps?


Never seen any of his films.

But I doubt he could've done as good a job as Hunt did. It's not every day that someone does an Oscar-worthy job (notice I said "worthy", many get the award who don't deserve it - Hunt did).

Little by little the look of the country changes because of the men we admire.

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I've never seen The Killing Fields. Want to - but I haven't been able to bring myself to do it.

And what is there for Linda Hunt to do? Everything I've seen her in reinforces the idea that she's a fine actress. But she's a very small woman. She's got the talent to play leads in movies, but who would hire her? Hollywood likes typecasting their actors. If you need a small woman for something, go to Linda Hunt, otherwise, seek out a "normal" actress.

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There's a distinct difference - virtually no one knows/remembers Linda Hunt. As witnessed by our being teh only two people here (practically).

Marlon Brando was a screen legend. And a private one, at that. Now, that doesn't necassarily translate into you not being able to find the goodies on him - it just means it makes it harder for the paparazzi to find info.

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I didn't know who Linda Hunt is while watching the movie & I was shocked when I found out Billy was played by a woman! She's brilliant.

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I didn't know who Linda Hunt is while watching the movie & I was shocked when I found out Billy was played by a woman! She's brilliant.


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Now that I know, Linda Hunt was the least of my complaints about this movie. I still love this movie though.

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I know I am replying to a post that was written 6 years ago(!) so I will just write this for future readers. But I know who Linda Hunt is and a lot of people I know know who she is and I've been watching her in films since I was a child.

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Even later...
I didn't knew who she is at the time the movie got released, but since then never forgot her name again and I am not that good with names

Great work!

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Ten years later, I assure you I know who Linda Hunt is and appreciate her work.

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The question over why she was picked was answed in the second post. Scroll up and read it.

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Imgres, didn't you read Whoah's post? . . . I rarely praise actors' performances, but I thought this was one of the best performances I've seen in any movie anywhere. That was what I felt when the film came out, and my opinion hasn't changed on re-viewing it these many years (and many films) later.

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I'm sure I did. Why?

Why did the moron beat his head against the wall?...because it felt so good when he stopped.

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Because he/she already gave an answer to the question as to why Hunt was chosen for the role. The answer given is the same one that presently appears in the "Trivia" section for this movie.

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The question was answered in Feb 2004:
"The only reason Peter Weir picked Linda Hunt-according to Weir, himself-was that he didn't think he could find any man that could play it better than she could..."

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She is so wonderful in this role. She really gives the film heart and magic. She is a great actress in every way. No one could have done this role better. No man could have, because she had the sensitivity and heart that is needed for this role. Some cold tougher male would not have worked. She was perfect.

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Hey wake up all of you "closet racists" out there and listen to what "bolowongji" had to say. As remarkable as Linda Hunt’s performance was as Billy Kwan, the Chinese photographer and side kick to the "main man," Guy Hamilton (Gibson) – yes, she did, indeed, win an Oscar for it – and as much as I personally admire Peter Weir, the director of this flilm who also created such atmospheric masterpieces as "Picnic at Hanging Rock" and "The Last Wave," the very thought of using a decidedly unattractive (downright ugly is what she is!) white woman to play a Chinese (Asian) man is not only bizarre, but even, grotesque, and as such, it is an obscene mockery of, and blatant affront to, all Asian men. Would anyone in Hollywood (or Australia or the U.K.) these days even consider slapping “black face” on a female actor like Amanda Plummer and having her portray the serious dramatic role of a Black man in some big box office movie? Hell, that producer or director would be lynched both professionally and physically!

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Please. This isn't Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's.

Hunt's performance was authentic and warm. She played the role brilliantly, and her physical characteristics worked remarkably well. Here is an instance of an actor getting completely immersed in her role, yet you refuse to accept that because you can't get over who the actor is.

If you didn't know she was a white woman, I highly doubt you'd have any problem with the casting. Because her performance, and her appearance in the film, were great.

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I agree with you wholeheartedly......an actor or actress's job is to make us believe in the role they are playing....Linda hunt did this brilliantly here.
I did not even click that "Blly" was a woman until I read the credits. Looking at her work here, today, I see she is still busy & damn good luck to the lady.

I find the comment of the poster (you responded to) rather baffling, he/she (another mystery?!?!) is of the opinion that this role-play is an offence to all Asian men.....yet can quite glibly use remarks like "downright ugly" when referring to Linda Hunt..... That, I find most offensive & unwarranted.

I notice too, that after every moderate reply such as yours, there is a "Deleted by a Moderator" ..... probably the same bonehead venting his/her spleen!

All in all, Hunt made the role hers, she was brilliant. She was an actress playing a role & did the job 100%......Is that not what "we pay them for" ?
A well earned Oscar in my view.

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men have traditionally played womens parts for centuries. men have played women of different cultures for those same centuries. what is your problem if the table has been changed and a wonderful female actor brilliantly plays the part of a man? welcome to the new world.

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To me, this sounds like reverse sexism and reverse racism. It suggests that one sex or one race is so different from the other that there can't possibly any meeting in between.

I thought Linda Hunt's Portrayal of Billy KwanWAS BRILLIANT. When TYOLD first came out, I had not idea the actor was a man.

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This is a nitpick, but one of my biggest pet peeves is the use of the phrase "reverse racism". Racism is racism regardless of who's being discriminated against and who's doing the discriminating, and the same goes for sexism.

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An Asian guy critiquing a movie that he's apparently neither seen or understands? Bolowongji is just a plain idiot.

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a half-asian dwarf. And her performance is absolutely brilliant. I actually don't think anyone else could have brought what she brought to that role. Have you seen it? She's not feminine at all.

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"A woman to play a guy? An anglo woman to play an ASIAN guy? It's an insult to asian guys, Wier is just a plain idiot"

So what? That's what they called it an acting. You don't need to be a real criminal to play a murderer.

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Look at the performance....not at the performer....

I'm all for it, that is, unless I'm agin' it

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she plays the role of a half chinese half australian man which sounds plausible to me.

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People playing other genders is fine, but people playing different races is offensive. LIke when Katherine Hepburn played an Asian girl in Dragon Seed, or when Mickey Rooney played an Asian guy in Breakfast at Tiffany's. It's just wrong.

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It's a little wrong that you misspell Katharine Hepburn's name, but I do see your point. Sort of.

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OMG... That's terrible! It's more than a little wrong, especially since she's one of my favorite stars ever. :-(


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It's an easy name to misspell, just think about her as A-list and you'll get the middle letter right every time!

Life may throw sh*t at you. Dignity is about how you deal with the sh*t.

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That's a great rule of thumb! Thanks Radiant. :-)

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Thank you. Btw, no offence intended to Catherines or Katherines, they are not E-listers, there is just another way to remember that but I haven't thought of it yet.

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It works for me. Really works.
Its not just a non-asian woman playing an asian man. It's one of the biggest performances in cinema history.

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Yes. I'm sure they could have found a half-asian male dwarf to play the part. Even if he can't act, just to have authenticity. Now the really hard part would be to get a half-asian male dwarf named Billy Kwan because it wouldn't be authentic if the actor didn't have the same name as the character as well.

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Well I just saw it and I think that Linda was marvelous. Actually I would never have guessed this character to be played by a woman if someone had not put me onto it previously. Therefore this shows a good job of acting. Also this is not the first time people of one racial group have played others. Now specifically for playing Asians how about in "Anna and the King of Siam"?

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The Billy Kwan character is HALF Asian and half white. And Linda Hunt's performance transcends gender and race... you sub-mental fool.

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I saw this movie when it first came out in the theaters. Thus, I was able to watch it without any pre-conceptions, i.e. I didn't know that Weaver was the daughter of a tv executive, didn't know that Gibson was a weird reactionary conservative idiot and, important for our purposes here, didn't know that Billy was being played by a woman.

I understand the points being made about western concepts of Asian men, but I think that on first viewing Billy's character did not come across as "weak" or "soft." Certainly there was an odd quality to Billy, but I think it came across as Billy being a "cripple" (to use a somewhat un-PC) term in some way -- that he was a small man (possibly a dwarf) and that, therefore, he was always an outsider, even in his own community. Yet, his intelligence and abilty came across strongly. I remember feeling that it was this tension -- between his abilities and the way in which he seemed to be perceived -- that drove the passion and, ultimately, the anger with which he dealt with his world.

The fact that it was a woman playing this part was a surprise to me and didn't seem to harm the character in any way.

P.S. As an aside to the person who suggested Haing S. Ngor as an alternate to Linda Hunt -- Ngor acted for the very first time in his life as a non-professional in "The Killing Fields" -- which was a couple of years after The Yr of LD.

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Ultimately, it shouldn't matter whether Linda Hunt is a man or a woman, just whether her performance works. Acting, like any art form, is a practice of sympthetic imagination. Saying that Linda Hunt couldn't play this part is akin to saying Renee Zellwegger couldn't play a Brit simply because she's American. Yet, she pulls off playing Bridget Jones.

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didn't know that Gibson was a weird reactionary conservative idiot


WTF?

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Someone here brought up the late Haing S. Ngor as someone who could have played Billy Kwan. He'd have been a great choice, even better than Linda Hunt, but of course, he wasn't an actor at the time, and he only chose to star in The Killing Fields because he had promised his dying wife that he would let the world know of the horrors that occurred in Cambodia. Despite a few similarities in both movies, I don't think he would have been willing to accept any other acting gigs until he accomplished his promise.

Ngor's performance in The Killing Fields is one I would rank in the top ten greatest in all of cinema, as rarely have I been so drawn into one man's plight on film (and considering so much of his dialogue is in Khmer that's not even subtitled, that's a fantastic accomplishment).

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by Topmounter (Sat Feb 5 2005 21:13:38)

didn't know that Gibson was a weird reactionary conservative idiot

WTF?



What rock have you been living under? That description actually flatters him.

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THere's a cultural studies theorist called Judith Butler who came up with the theory that your biological sex is not linked to your 'gender' ie the way you behave. She argues that over the centuries, our society has constructed itself so that we assume people born with a penis have to act 'manly', and people born with a vagina have to act in a more feminine way. In reality, people are just people, and should be able to act the way we want regardless of what's in their pants, and not confined by social codes which get drummed into us from childhood (boys don't cry, girls wear pink etc)

The relevance of this is that 'gender' is something everybody performs. Butler argues that we're all walking around acting the role of ourselves, just like Linda Hunt is acting the role of Billy. Big tough masculine men's men are performing the role of 'masculine person', while drag artists are men performing the role of 'feminine person.' Women are performing the same role, of 'feminine person'. So the only reason we're confused by Linda Hunt's casting is because we're used to the social roles of female of the human species=woman, male of the human species=man.

Maybe someday, in the future, we'll reach a point where all theatrical parts are open to all people, regardless of whether they're male or female, and based purely on their ability to play the role. Obviously that's a pretty wild exxageration and probably won't ever happen, but it would certainly make for a more interesting future cinema than one were all the actors are CGI, as lots of people seem to predict.

Incidentally, for the best explanation of how a person can perform the roles of male and female, watch Sally Potter's 'Orlando.' Not the most straightforward of stories, but watch it with an open mind and it will explain the stuff i've mentioned far better than i can.

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Linda Hunt's casting is a mystery to me, given that it was such a stretch for its time (and still is today) to cast a woman as a man straightforwardly. My best guess is the makers of the film wanted to capture a sense of ambiguity at the heart of the character of Billy, sort of the spirit of Indonesia as it throws over one dictator for another. Also, we are meant to wonder at the devotion of Billy for Guy, whether or not it is a sexual thing or something else. The shot of Linda Hunt's face after Billy realizes his plans to get Guy together with the woman Billy himself claims to have loved is a wonderful essay of someone getting exactly what they wanted, and not knowing whether it is a success or tragedy. Why is Billy so conflicted?

Not a great film, but Hunt's performance is the best thing in it, and I think it's because she adds a spiritual dimension that adds to the casting and of which the makers of the film may well have not anticipated. It's a tough part, man or woman, and she plays it very well.

Dr. Ngor's performance as Dith Pran in "The Killing Fields" is much more compelling in a better film, but I think Hunt was the right man for the job here, regardless that she's no man at all.

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Also, we are meant to wonder at the devotion of Billy for Guy, whether or not it is a sexual thing or something else.


I doubt the director, the script-writers or the actors intended to portray some sexual innuendo between Guy and Billy.

It really confuses me sometimes why strong friendships, when shown, are questioned and somehow linked with lust or love-interest. It's as if devotion to a close friend isn't possible unless there's some underlying agenda to it (other than friendship).

The shot of Linda Hunt's face after Billy realizes his plans to get Guy together with the woman Billy himself claims to have loved is a wonderful essay of someone getting exactly what they wanted, and not knowing whether it is a success or tragedy.


Not to over-simplify things, but Billy did tell Guy that he had "handed" (or was it "given"?) Jill to him and was somehow responsible for drawing him and her together. That nulls any claims about sexual interests between Billy and Guy, since the confession was done in the heat-of-the-moment.

Why is Billy so conflicted?


I don't know what kind of context you put "conflicted" in, but I reckon Billy was more disappointed because he thought Guy would take an interest in the socio-economic and socio-cultural aspect of Indonesia (i.e. poverty, politics, etc.) instead of being just another reporter who's there to grab a headline and an opportunity.

That's what Billy was "conflicted" about. Towards the end, he isn't sure whether Guy was just a mere opportunistic journalist, or someone who goes beyond the demands of the market and, like Billy himself, would be concerned about how the politics of the Indonesian government affects its people. IMO, Billy believed there was a more "human" side to Guy, unlike those other Western journalists who don't care about the Indonesian public and are only there for the stories, the prostitutes and feeling good about being rich Westerners.

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It's no mystery. Weir was about ready to begin shooting and he hadn't found anyone he was remotely satisfied with to play Billy Kwan. So when Hunt showed up to read for the part, Weir was on the verge of desperation. Of course she turned out to be brilliant, so he hired her. Just in the knick of time.

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I notice that you are very familiar with the theories of this Judith Butler that you cite but that you did not state that you agree with her ideas. In the early days of Israel many of the Kibutzim attempted to raise their childern in a gender nuetural manner and found that the old patters still emerged. I personally believe that men are men and women are women. I am not an expert in gender confusion issues but they seem to occur mainly in enlightened prosperous cultures. Consider the fact that "eating disorders" (read a cultural manifestation of mental illness) only occur in America and Western Europe.

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Judith Butler is, I'm afraid, hopelessly incorrect. That idea is not taken seriously anymore by anyone who has spent time in the fields of psychology, neurophysiology, evolutionary ethology, cognitive science etc. Male genes (in combination with key bursts of testosterone) build male brains. They operate differently from female brains. (And, indeed, our hormones are a major part of the causal basis of our behaviour at any given time, and males and females usually have a very different hormonal mix coursing through their bodies.) It is not social conditioning. That can amplify, but it cannot create.

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Ceri,

You are, I'm afraid, incorrect.

"Male genes" do not build "male brains" in the way you describe it. This "boy cooty"/"girl cooty" idea isn't taken seriously by anyone in those fields, either.

The woefully too short answer is that gender identity physically develops in the embryonic brain separately from sexual characteristics. The chemical reactions forming them have different timings. As we all produce both "female" and "male" hormones, if our brains do not receive the "proper" one early enough in development, our brain develops along different "gender" paths from what our physical sexual characteristic usually imply to our rigid, gender-biased culture.

If this was what you were trying to say concerning biologic imperitive, then we are in agreement.

hogs and knishes,

Vive

PS I hope you enjoyed The Year of Living Dangerously. Whether we agree with it or not, it certainly, obviously, has stayed with us in our consciousnesses. 8--)

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> If this was what you were trying to say concerning biologic imperitive, then we are in agreement.

It's difficult to say, given that you say I'm wrong, but then start referring to my incorrectness as involving a theory of "boy cooties", whatever that means, and go on to say that on the contrary, we need key bursts of hormones at the right times. Which is, errr, quite clearly what I said.

If you're saying that "male genes", i.e. those on the Y chromosome, have no part to play in this developmental process, we've clearly been reading different textbooks. And my university department would love to hear more about your revolutionary ideas.

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"Maybe someday, in the future, we'll reach a point where all theatrical parts are open to all people, regardless of whether they're male or female (or Yellow, or White, or Black, or Brown), and based purely on their ability to play the role..."

Every (white) person who made a comment here about Linda Hunt's selection to portray the Chinese photographer, Billy, raves about how well she portrayed him and can’t understand why Asian American males, like myself, get upset with her having been cast in the role. Well, even though I've already made a comment here saying I agree that she did a great job and deserved the Oscar for her portrayal, I still stated that I was upset about her being selected for the role in the first place. Let me try to expand a little more here in reply to this particular comment by clairmarie83. Firstly, as I said previously, "can you imagine if Peter Weir had slapped 'blackface' on Ms. Hunt and had her portray such an unattractive and misshapen Black man – why, most likely, he'd have been been lynched..." but, as is perfectly clear from current movies now 24 years after The Year of..., nobody (either producing a Hollywood film or watching it) seems to give a rat's a__ about Asians - especially males. As much as I really do go along with the sentiment "but, why should any role belong to any race?" the simple fact of the matter is that there are precious few - if any - positive roles for Asian men in any big box office Hollywood movies to date. I'm actually not against using stereotypes in movies - I love comedy and think that stereotypes can be very funny (even Mickey Rooney in Breakfast...) - as a multi-ethnic society, we can all stand a little ribbing every now and then to provide a little entertainment to all of ourselves as a people. But there is a condition here - if you portray any one particular ethnic group in a disparagingly buffoonish or otherwise negative way, then, you should make up for it by portraying that same group in some positive and ennobling way as well, i.e., provide some balance... Now, Hollywood has bent over backwards to do this for African Americans, Irish, Italians, Poles, Jews, gays, the physically challenged, women - every minority or disadvantaged group you can think of - except Asians. The simple fact of the matter is that there aren’t enough positive portrayals of Asians especially males, so, yes, we Asian American men do get a bit riled by such negative portrayals – time and again in movie after movie... Now, if the producers and directors in Hollywood ever get around to giving us Asian males equal time as leading attractive masculine men and not keep portraying us as effeminate even sinister "me no speekee engrish" clowns in films, then, I'd be only too happy to laugh or cheer along with all of you nice "White folks" at a performance like Ms. Hunt's - or even Mr. Rooney's...

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People won't listen. They will still tell you how "brilliant" this casting was and won't see that your blackface-comparison isn't off the mark. Nobody here wants to admit that, just like the people in the fairytale "The Emperor's new clothes" didn't want to admit that their king was simply naked.

As much I think Peter Weir did a great job with other films, this is the one I can't take seriously.

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There is an ethnic group that is still portrayed in a bad light, and is considered fair game for all kinds of verbal abuse and jokes: southerners.

Regarding Asian male leads, just want to relay an old movie from the 1960s about an "interracial" couple during WWII. Bridge to the Sun (1961) is based on a true story of an American girl who married a Japanese diplomat and went to Japan when the war started. It is focused on her experiences, but the leading man is James Shigeta. The movie was a surprise to me and I enjoyed it.

Regarding racial casting, let me mention The King and I. I was unaware of such things until complaints were made about a Broadway version in the 1980s, decrying the lack of Asian child actors. Showbiz prefers tucking Latin Americans into almost any foreign role, lol. But I see in IMDB that a good handful of the 1961 film children have names that "sound Asian" to my admittedly ignorant white brain. I guess it was important for the many closeups in the movie, and less important for a stage production.

But the racial group most often neglected was (and is) American Indians. The TV show Northern Exposure boasted about hiring natives. Except that they were American Indians, not Alaskan Natives, lol. But hey, at least they made the effort. ;-)

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I remember seeing this movie when it was first released. I didn't realize initially that Billy was played by a woman. Linda Hunt did such an awsome job of it I remain a fan to this day. In truth, I believe I went to see the movie because of the prescence of Sigourney Weaver and Mel Gibson, but Hunt's portrayal as Billy left a rather indelible impression on me. What deeper purpose could any director wish for from his cast? The fact that it was subsequently an Oscar winning film served only to deepen my interest for good movies that tell good stories, no matter who may be in them or in what language.

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To; maffucci mh;

I too, remember seeing this movie for the first time, and not realizing that Billy Kwan was played by a woman. I made a point of looking for the real name of whoever played Billy Kwan, and I was stunned that I'd been fooled so completely. I don't care what anyone says, Linda Hunt did a fantastic job portraying a man, and her performance should never be forgotten. It never will be by me, anyway. I found the movie on DVD, and wasted not one second buying it. Something else I love about this movie, is the music. I'm not talking about the '60's junk they play, but the other pieces, especially the one they play when Guy and Kumar are driving up into the hills. Fantastic. Definitely one of my top 10 favorite movies.

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by - claremarie83 (Thu May 12 2005 12:43:47 )
So the only reason we're confused by Linda Hunt's casting is because we're used to the social roles of female of the human species=woman, male of the human species=man.


The original poster stated that they do not have a problem with it.

by - thorifes (Mon Jan 5 2004 04:56:39 )
I don't have a problem with it but I wonder if there was a deeper purpose...


Perhaps people are simply interested, as opposed to being 'confused'?

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The character really showed disgust for Sukarno very well. As everyone knows Sukarno's daughter ended up being president too some years later.
Now communism isn't the big threat there, it's "fundamentalism" like in Bali.
I thought the US/Un should have sent the Marines into East Timor as soon as the results were announced there in 1999. THe US Air Force could have seen how we fought against our own F-16's.

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If you care about others Billy
Remember what they did in Dili
Trade with murderers is quite silly
Unless your heart is very chilly

200,000 dead you know
By some scum named Suharto
But a Nobel for some activists
Helps us raise our weary fists

Nonetheless if trade declined
By politicians stronger-spined
We could get up off the floor
And bring some hope to East Timor.

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I totally agree with you about the music which I thought was both haunting and memorable. The Vangelis piece playing during the curfew scene when Guy & Jill are driving through torrential rain laughing and infatuated with each other is imprinted on my memory as one of the most romantic movie scenes I've ever watched. For me it's hard to find fault with this movie as it is also one of my top 10 favourites of all time but I did at times wish Weaver and Gibson had been given more dialogue - there was so much chemistry between them, it seemed a shame to waste it. However maybe in this case less is more. It worked for me anyway.

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This was the first film I had ever seen Linda Hunt in and I thought she was a man. It wasn't until the ending credits that I found out Billy was actually a woman playing a mans part. To me thats good acting!

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The original question was an excellent, intelligent and valid question. Thanks thorifes. The answer posted by whoah10115 was a perfect answer because it revealed a piece of the artist's/director's intent. Personally, I think Linda Hunt played the role exquisitely. As for the rest of you, y'all shouldn't be trying to peak down Billy Kwan's pants. If you weren't so insecure about maintaining rigid gender roles and having to JUDGE whether Billy Kwan was a man or woman maybe you would have benefitted from the artistry of the film. The transcendent can only appear in the unknown. Therefore, don't look at what Weir did NOT and complain that he did NOT. The fact that you are transported to that sublime gray of unknowing is perhaps Weir's and Hunt's greatest accomplishment in this movie.

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There might have been a "deeper purpose" (e.g. Linda's height, Linda's looks, Linda's voice, etc., etc.), but seeing how well Linda played her part, I think it's safe to say that she was chosen for her portrayal of the character.

Hunt played the part of Billy so brilliantly. It really took my breath away. She brought out the passion Billy felt about the problems and politics in Indonesia, and poverty in general. We can't help but admire and sympathise with her beliefs, because Billy's not just there to be the first to grab a headline on Sukarto, he's investigating and analysing how all of this is affecting the Indonesian public.

That Oscar win was thoroughly deserved. It's only a shame that Linda's isn't more widely known than Mel or Sigourney. But I guess it could be good thing, since a large number of famous Hollywood "actors" are known for just their name, not their skills.

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I really like this movie...and I really like the way Weir creates ambiguity by casting the role Billy Kwan.

We voyeurs get all nice and safe in our darkened rooms, watching things that meet our expectations. Sigourney and Mel certainly stroked a few great expectations of what our leading man and woman should be.

But Weir wants to pull us out of our safe narrative expectations and shake us up. Just as we might be shaken up if we were to find ourselves in a European hotel in mid century Indonesia with a Chinese-American dwarf photographer.

It was something Fellini often toyed with but his sense of the grotesque was so steeped in the clown that he would have his poor little creature perform as we saw in La Strada. But Weir is about humanity, and Billy Kwan as played by Hunt absolutely rings with humanity, and loneliness, and passion.

So Weir makes us uncomforatble with this character, even as the voice of Linda Hunt draws us into his world view and creates a deep and affecting empathy.

And when Billy dies... the show goes on. How brilliant and disturbing to the western mind to kill the narrator. We feel the loss because we lose the voice that guided us through the story, told us who these people were, took us into his confidence...it breaks so many conventions - and it moved you. And ccentral to that was a "impossible to peg" ambiguity of Billy Kwan when played by Linda Hunt.

Casting Linda Hunt was genius

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I had no idea the character was being portrayed by a female until I read the credits. Great job. The character is not supposed to be a strong, imposing male figure.

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speaking as someone who is in the industry, I think it is important to try for a cast that offers diversity as well as talent. You try to give a chance to every person who might play the part well, and, from there, you decide who will do it the BEST.

If you have three asian people and one caucasian woman trying for the role, but the asian people are nowhere near as deft or talented as the caucasian woman, then you ask yourself, "Can this woman do the role better, and will she be convincing?" If the answer is yes, then you go with whatever will make your film the most effective and moving.

you can try to be fair up and down the line, offering roles in a socially fair way, but you must balance that with doing what will make your film the most powerful while still attracting the most money and the biggest audience.

And, in this case, Weir did not even have that luxury! As has already been stated, he was just days away from shooting, and he had yet to find a satisfactory Billy. He did not have four outstanding people to choose from. Then Linda Hunt came along. He had ONE good person on his list.

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Saw the film when it was new at the theater and had never heard of Mel Gibson, or Linda Hunt. My companion and I were blown away by the movie and most especially Hunt's performance. Saw the actor's name when the credits rolled and simply were amazed that it was a woman playing Kwan. 27 years later still feel the same about this gem of a movie. Trolls, wannabe critics and haters, get over yourselves!

grumpyoldwhiteguy

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Hoffman in 'Tootsie' of that same year was hilarious ...

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