Plothole?


David did not kill Jack, so I wonder why Jack was coming back to haunt David.

Then again, Jack says that until the bloodline of the werewolf is severed and the curse lifted, all people who have been killed by the werewolf are doomed to walk the earth in limbo. So where are the rest of the "undead" people killed by the werewolf on the moors?

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1. Having too many dead walking around would be too much, even financially for a movie this size.
2. It could be that only people close to David and/ or ones killed by him are the ones visible to him.

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Why is it that many people that post on IMDb do not know what a plot hole is?

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Chill out bro. Call it a minor inconsistency for all I care, I just wanted the question answered.

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Its important to understand the difference between a plot hole and a minor inconsistency

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Jack doesn't come back to haunt David, he come back to warn him because David was his friend.

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They would only haunt the person / werewolf who killed them, so Jack being a newbie wouldn't have that many kills under his belt unlike an old-timer.

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Well Jack wasn't killed by David, so I was wondering why David was seeing him at all.

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It's not a hard and fast rule, seeing how they killed the one who killed Jack, David was the only one left to bother.

You are right though, technically how could Jack be forced to roam among the undead if the werewolf that killed him had been killed? Supposedly, that frees Jack so David shouldn't be seeing him at all.

The only explanation I can think of is that Jack thought he could convince David to kill himself because they had been good friends, whereas the strangers that David had killed wouldn't be as convincing.

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That makes some sense. Maybe Jack was forced to go back to warn his friend, as the last person killed by the previous werewolf.

Or maybe everyone killed by the previous werewolf on the Moors are also 'walking in limbo' but David either can't, or doesn't need to see them. Maybe Jack only shows David his victims to show him the consequences of his curse.

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You are right though, technically how could Jack be forced to roam among the undead if the werewolf that killed him had been killed? Supposedly, that frees Jack so David shouldn't be seeing him at all.


Because the bloodline of the wolf that killed Jack till lives in David. David has to die without passing on the werewolf's bloodline to anyone else before Jack can be released from limbo.





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David is part of the wolf's bloodline who killed Jack. Jack states that he is undead until the bloodline is ended. Ergo, Jack is stuck until David dies.

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David was probably seeing Jack in his mind. That's what it was all about.

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It is all explained clearly in the movie.

Jack explains that he is forced to walk the earth in limbo until the wolfs bloodline is severed, and David is the last werewolf in that particular bloodline.

As to why only Jack and Davids victims appeared to him and not ALL the other victims of the Moors werewolf.....narrative wise it would be dumb for loads of random people that David never even met to start appearing to him to try get him to kill himself, much better that Jack, his best friend, be the one to talk to him, if anyone was going to convince him of the whole werewolf thing, it was gonna be Jack.

Also, budget wise, they probably didn't have the time or cash to start plastering those prosthetics on dozens of random undead.

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narrative wise it would be dumb for loads of random people that David never even met to start appearing to him to try get him to kill himself


But image if David walked in to see a theater FULL of decomposed corpses, if only for a second. Really would show the magnitude of death caused by the werewolfs bloodline. I dunno, I agree that it would be unnecessary, but reading that just put a cool image in my head.

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Or maybe David just imagine it all. His own conscience talks to him and believes in a werewolf myth.

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I think it was not about who David killed in the end. I think ALL of the Werewolf's victims were in this "undead state" that Jack was in. We know that these undead are not just apparitions (if they're real and not just David's guilt) and that they walk around on their own. I mean Jack mentions how BORING corpses are, which means that he had time to talk to another undead guy. So I guess when Jack became undead (probably in a spectral shape) he just followed the villagers who took David home. Then he followed David to the hospital and waited for him to wake up.

What I want to say is that if David would've e.g. returned to East Proctor or the moors then he would've probably met the undead remains of all the people that died there by the hands of the other werewolves. My guess is that some of them were wandering around for centuries, maybe even in other parts of the world and that the werewolf curse essentially doesn't leave just a trail of dead bodies behind, but also a bunch of undead, rotting people that are invisible to everyone but their kind and the man or woman who bears the curse.

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In their first conversation after Jack's death he mentions that he's been talking to dead people, calling them "boring". So the undead are lurking out there, and could talk to David if they wished.

Maybe that's why the town allowed the werewolf to persist for so many years. Their relatives could be "sacrificed" and remain in limbo where they could still contact friends and family.

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It could be as simple as David never met the other werewolf's victims, so they don't know who/where he is and therefore they wouldn't know to follow him like Jack does. David's own victims' spirits see him upon their deaths or maybe Jack acts as a guide to them.

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