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These guys knew they were going to die


One of the big questions that people tend to ask is what motivated the four libertines to engage in this enterprise of debauchery and sadism. It's unclear if it's precedented in their lives on a scale such as this, but due to the allied forces closing in on Italy and Nazi-occupied Europe in 1944, these blokes saw the writing on the wall and decided they needed one last hurrah to indulge in their deepest and darkest sexual fantasies before the war would finish them.

It's the only motivation I can think of for a group of people so willing to devour feces, which I'm sure people as educated as they knew posed a great risk of Hepatitis-A or many other bacterial infections. And due to their resentment of the younger generation who were likely to make it through the war relatively unscathed, they wanted to take them down with them in their dastardly plot to destroy their innocence by subjecting them to unremitting torture, humiliation and degradation.

And who were these guys anyway? What position of power and influence did they wield in the Italian fascist hierarchy? It's likely they were highly respected men in their community, which makes you wonder what powerful and influential people in your own community would be like under similar circumstances.

I guess after thinking of all that, Salo is really about how low human beings can potentially sink when they're aware that their days are numbered. If you think the bad guys won at the end of the film, your knowledge of history might save you some grief as you realise that the perpetrators were probably imprisoned and executed for war crimes not long after the events of the film.

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They probably waited till the last minute then shot themselves in the head.

I can't see any of those dudes waiting around to be imprisoned.






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I recommend you do a Google search on the movie. Many essays and articles have been written that address everything you mentioned. There are audio commentaries and documentaries featuring the director and actors who speak on the deeper meaning of the film. So you are really getting the story directly from the "horse's mouth".

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I like to think they were always like this. I liked their direct nature and philosophy that the world would not exist without this dark nature. I really enjoy the torture ideas and think that in life sometimes bad things happen in life do happen to good people.

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Sometimes? I'd say more bad things happen to good people than bad.

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'Bad' things happen to everyone.

To be born is to be pushed off a cliff.




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So they let their inner cruel and perverse beast be left out while knowing their imminent fate and couldn't just say stay to a side instead or do something good and normal?

By the way, in Avary's "Killing Zoe" (1994) film, the thugs knew that they had AIDS and may die anytime soon and they decided, however also wrong, but not to the cruel and perverse levels of this movie, to rob the bank AND kill people in the process.

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September 23, 2021 Thursday 9:10 PM ET

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Those who believe other people can be treated without dignity, in effect, cannot fully fathom the notion that a person's word of honor is given; not bought.

In attempting to inflict pain and cruelty on their captives, with an aim in dehumanizing their victims, the captors have had to first dehumanize themselves. . .

For the captors, they are so far removed from living that the only way they 'feel' something is when they hurt and maim others. For them, life is a meaningless sequence of suffering and this is reflected in how they merciless treat others so needlessly.

The captives who rejoice in their suffering (in spite of their suffering) are more full of life and hope after death (blessed) than their persecutors are. The punishers, conversly, due to their depravity are "dead men walking" (cursed).

~~/o/

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