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*Spolier* Why did they change the ending?


One of my favourite 'comfort' films. That lovely bitter-sweet ending always makes me cry, but I feel if she can get up and get back out there, so can I. I gives me hope.

I didn't know they'd filmed an alternative ending untill yesterday - he comes back to her, tells her he's been a fool and they all live happily etc. Why did they film this? It is cheesy, unbelievable and poorly acted. It jars against the flow and pace of the film, and the actors know it.

Why did they do this, and why is it sometimes shown on TV? Anybody?

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Screw what you people think would have been terrible about a sappy ending; it couldn't have been any worse than the sheer misery of the chosen ending. This movie reminded me of the French film Mouchette. 2 hours (in this case, 2 1/2 long hours) invested in some character just to watch her suffer and die. OP, if this film is comfort food for you, you must be a pretty strong and admirable person. Charity's personal resilience doesn't give me much hope in a world where people can be so callous and vile, and luck can be so dumb and blind. I wouldn't call it bittersweet, just bitter, and I wouldn't call it inspiring, just depressing. (And hippies are plain dated!)

For a musical, what is the point of this mess? Come on, I liked this movie, and really enjoyed the first half, but it all fell flat from too much ambition.

This movie tries to be too many things, and just like Charity at the end, it doesn't know what it's all about and where it's going. That doesn't teach us an authentic, inspiring lesson; that just wastes a valuable platform to get an easy emotional response (not to take anything away from MacLaine's bravura performance, which makes us care and makes the film work right through the end).

"And she lived hopefully ever after." Except she had nothing to hope for. No skills, no man, and she couldn't even face her friends and return to the comfortable job she had. Alone and no money or prospects. In New York City. She was hopeless. I like Fosse a lot more (though I know he didn't write the story) when he confronts his demons head on and is more honest about his sarcastic, pessimistic worldview.

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I saw the original movie and ending when it came out in 1969 and I was not happy with that ending because like Don Lockwood said above, exactly what did Charity have to look forward to? I thought it was a total cop-out on the writer/director's part - she had hope? For what? Every man in her life either used her or dumped her, she quit her job (which people couldn't even believe she had!), told her friends of her change in life, where could she go? She's ready to face the future? What future?

About a year later I was talking with a guy who had been in Australia (on R&R)when it was released there, and had seen it and I was mentioning the ending and he said, that wasn't how it ended, Oscar came back. Well, I wondered if that ending would have been a little better. People make mistakes, Oscar seemed to have, no reason to compound them.

But after reading the above complete discussion, both endings were terrible. And I agree, that flower children sequence totally dates the movie and from a long view, gives absolutely no hope. I had left the theater thinking, Huh? It's like they had to have some kind of positive uplifting ending, even if it was phony. It probably would have been better if she just walked into the distance with no interactions at all.

I like Shirley Maclaine and I enjoyed some of the sequences and I loved the part where she is in the fancy restaurant and admits the only person there she doesn't know is herself. That has always cracked me up. But let's face it, as her hopes kept rising, the movie kept sinking lower, in action, in mood, in intent. The original ending didn't live up to any of that.

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Oddly enough, I liked the hippies, and they seem to "date" the movie less now than in 1969, when it would be apparent how idealized they were. Anyone old enough to remember that time knows that -nobody- really went around looking like that, so freshly scrubbed and glowing - but with time, you can take it in good humor.

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I saw this too when it was first released but didn't like the ending at all. It works for the Fellini film (a drama) but for a 2 1/2hr musical comedy whose sole reason for existence is to be entertaining it falls flat and is totally at odds with the rest of the movie. I agree with another poster, the flower children felt dated in 1969/1970 when I first saw it, don't know why it did, but it did. I didn't know about the alternate ending until the advent of the dvd. This ending fits in perfectly with the rest of the film, a nice little fairy tale ending ("..and she lived hopefully ever after"). Realists will pick up on the clues in the dialogue that things probably won't be fine, but it's the "right" ending for this production--and MacLaine looking up to heaven with her hands clasped in desperate prayer mode mouthing the words "Thank You" is a wonderful comic exit.

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I saw this movie in 1969 during its roadshow engagement at Cinema 1 in Milwaukee, which is no longer there. I didn't know that there was an alternative ending either, until I saw it almost 30 years later on AMC. I am pleased that they don't show the ending very often, because the story remains faithful to Fellini's Nights of Cabiria if the original ending is used.

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Count me among those who prefer the alternate ending for reasons echoed earlier. The genre of musical theater is fantasy to begin with, and I don't need to have dark "realism" intruding into what's supposed to be an escapist form of art. "West Side Story" can get away with being otherwise because it goes for "realism" throughout the course of the production but not this one, with up tempo numbers like "If They Could See Me Now" and "I'm A Brass Band". Why is it somehow less "realistic" anyway for Oscar to suddenly have a change of heart?

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I, too, saw this upon its initial release in 1969 and never imagined a "happy ending" with Oscar. I liked the somewhat downbeat but somewhat hopeful ending because one sees that Charity has not been sullied or embittered beyond all hope because of what happened with Oscar. She has a resilience. I also never doubted that she would return to her job and still be welcomed back.

Thank you, thank you--you're most kind. In fact you're every kind.

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The original film Nights of the Cabaria had a unhappy ending too. Maybe Fosse wanted to follow that example.

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I've never seen the alternate ending, just the one with Oscar pooping out on Charity. When I saw it again recently, I remembered that Oscar is also Father Frank who poops out on Dorothy Zbornak on the Golden Girls.

Why ain't you at the garden party you heathen?

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Probably an unpopular opinion, but I find the alternate, happy ending much more apropos.

1. The movie has been so much about the bridge that artistic unity requires that it be about the bridge at the end.
2. The guy has played too large a role in the film for it not to work out. When it doesn't work out, it begs the question "why did we bother spending so much time telling the sub-story about his part of her life?".
3. The whole story is too bleak to have such a bleak ending as well. It's not well balanced.

That they even thought the bleak ending is the right one is entirely contextual. If the world hadn't been so miserable in 1969 they never would have reached that conclusion.

There is at least one big problem with the alternate ending though. That he could believe anyone would try to commit suicide by jumping from *that* bridge into that nearby water is difficult to credit.

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