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OT: Samuel Taylor Directs!


Did anyone here realize that Sam Taylor, screenwriter of Vertigo and Topaz (and frequent Hitchcock vacation companion) had once directed a film? I hadn't.

I recently stumbled upon The Monte Carlo Story (1956), directed by Taylor from his own script. It concerns titled but now-impoverished nobles Marlene Dietrich and Vittorio De Sica trading on the illusions of their former wealth while fortune-hunting. Each scopes out and zeroes in on the other, not realizing, of course, that the other is as broke as they. Having found one another out, they adopt a new strategy, teaming up to pose as siblings as they look for new wealthy prospects.

Just as he did for Sabrina Fair and its film adaptation, Taylor gently lampoons privileged lifestyles in a comedy of manners that aspires to an Ernst Lubitsch-like lightness and delicacy, but which instead often succumbs to a pace so stately as to seem leaden, coming to life only when folksy Arthur O'Connell, as a nouveau riche American, enters halfway through as Dietrich's new target for a rich marriage. O'Connell's good-natured and unabashedly "fish out of water" demeanor mines the charm in such scenes as Dietrich's coaching him through his first go at the chemin de fer tables, and is an energetically effective counterpoint to the cool self-possession of the Teutonic temptress.

While both a "first" and a "last" for Taylor the director, The Monte Carlo Story represents another "first," apropos of our recent discussion here of the merits of VistaVision: it was the inaugural film of Technicolor's own big-screen process, Vistarama.

What Vistarama did was adopt the "Lazy 8" configuration of VistaVision, applying anamorphic optics to that system's horizontally-exposed 35mm negative to yield a widescreen image of 2.25:1. Indeed, the first Vistarama cameras were VistaVision ones modified from three-strip Technicolor negatives to Eastman "monopack." A little irony there.

Whether it was an effect of photographing in this new system or merely that of Taylor's inexperience as a director, the film ultimately subverts the intimacy so important to such a story by maintaining a physical distance from the performers that renders the action regal but bloodless, and their characters unapproachable, as though the camera itself was aware of the celebrity of the actors playing them and observed accordingly respectful remove. While there's much fluid gliding, panning and tracking, intra-scene editing is sparse and closeups and even medium twoshots are nearly nonexistent. The result is a film that feels as though it's assembled almost entirely from establishing shots.

With these criticisms, I note in passing Dietrich's stringent control over how she was photographed - something to which even Hitchcock had deferred when shooting Stage Fright - and the fact that she was then in her mid-50s (as was De Sica, with whom she shares so many scenes). While as glamorous and svelte as ever, gliding through opulent surroundings in form-fitting gowns, well, one can only wonder. But the tableau-like mise en scène permeates the entire film, even in Dietrich-less scenes.

Taylor's very next project after The Monte Carlo Story was Vertigo. One can't help but wonder if it might have turned out differently if the order had been reversed, and after Taylor had learned a trick or two from Hitch about how to craft and assemble a film. It does muster a certain appeal and, while the entire gossamer atmosphere seems more suited to twenty years earlier, when insouciant globe-trotters were such a staple of escapist fare, The Monte Carlo Story frustrates with unrealized potential.

To paraphrase our friend Arbogast, Taylor just didn't get all there was to get.

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Interesting. Sometimes it seems as though all a good writer needs to be a decent director is get themselves a top DP, but evidently The Monte Carlo Story proves that that's not so (and that much more is needed). Taylor had Giuseppi Rotunno who'd go on to shoot great stuff for Fellini and Visconti then decamp to Hollywood to shoot Carnal Knowledge, All That Jazz, etc. And it sounds like The Monte Carlo Story *looks* good... but that's not enough.

Anyhow, it's currently up in very watchable (720p) form on youtube here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3OjcZbV_QU

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Instances of "one-off" directors raise intriguing questions. Did writers like Carl Foreman or George S. Kaufman, actors like Jack Lemmon or James Cagney and producers like Kevin McClory simply decide it wasn't their cup of tea after one experience? Some stories are well known: Charles Laughton's disillusionment after the reception of Night Of the Hunter, for example.

In Taylor's case, it might be easy to theorize nothing more than having had no particular commitment to film as a medium. His directly-credited work in it, either for original story and/or screenplay or as adaptations of his own stage plays, total nine by my count. Come to think of it, nine is also the number of his produced plays over a period of 25 years, after which he lived nearly another 25 without actively contributing to another play or film. Perhaps as a creative type, it was merely that he wasn't an especially "driven" sort of personality. As I say, intriguing.

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Did writers like Carl Foreman or George S. Kaufman, actors like Jack Lemmon or James Cagney and producers like Kevin McClory simply decide it wasn't their cup of tea after one experience? Some stories are well known: Charles Laughton's disillusionment after the reception of Night Of the Hunter, for example.
Perhaps the main problem is just something like regression to the mean. No actor or screenwriter or DP gets the chance to direct a studio film unless they've had tremendous success in their previous capacity - normally in fact the chance comes right after and because someone has had a big hot streak. Having beaten the odds as an actor, say, you're now in the position of having to beat the odds again as director. But most hot streaks end.

Of course there's a lot more to it than that in each individual case, but the basic chance structure (only lucky winners get selected for the big chances but good and successful movies are still low probability events and all agents' luck runs out eventually) ensures lots of short studio directorial careers.

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Perhaps the main problem is just something like regression to the mean. No actor or screenwriter or DP gets the chance to direct a studio film unless they've had tremendous success in their previous capacity - normally in fact the chance comes right after and because someone has had a big hot streak. Having beaten the odds as an actor, say, you're now in the position of having to beat the odds again as director. But most hot streaks end.

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Great points. I'm reminded that Hollywood is often a "closed shop" -- guys like Hitchcock, Wilder, Preminger got the power in one era, Lucas and Spielberg in another, the comic book directors today -- and breaking through for REGULAR work is hard to do. You've got to excel and even then it is hard.

For instance, there was much resistance at Universal to Clint Eastwood choosing Play Misty for Me as his first directorial job -- "Who wants to see Clint Eastwood as a p-whipped disc jockey?"

And Tony Perkins - whose ONLY power was as Norman Bates -- asked to direct Psycho II but was turned down. (They relented for Psycho III, it was being made pretty cheap.)

Jack Lemmon perhaps blew his one shot at directing because Kotch wasn't much of a "youth picture" to start with. And Walter Matthau pointed out that he offered himself up as the star(Lemmon hadn't asked him) because Lemmon couldn't GET a star for the old man part(Matthau took it and got an Oscar nom.) Soon after Kotch, Lemmon won a "late in arriving" Oscar for the massively depressing flop "Save the Tiger" -- but his star career was effectively over.

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Of course there's a lot more to it than that in each individual case, but the basic chance structure (only lucky winners get selected for the big chances but good and successful movies are still low probability events and all agents' luck runs out eventually) ensures lots of short studio directorial careers.

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This is a great business to think about and to write about...but to work in? Pretty rough and tough. I'll look at some movie from the 70's, 80s or even 90s on TV and see the directors name and think "he didn't last very long, did he?" I hope the money was well invested.

Special case: John Frankenheimer was hot in the sixties(The Manchurian Candidate, Seven Days in May, Grand Prix) then got cold and struggled for a comeback in the 70s: French Connection II got him the big thriller Black Sunday(I love it) but when that one underperformed ...back to retirement for Frankenheimer. He saved himself in the 90's with a series of HBO movies and then made one more great "movie movie": the car chase extravaganza Ronin with Robert DeNiro. He survived. He's dead now. But he survived then.

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In Taylor's case, it might be easy to theorize nothing more than having had no particular commitment to film as a medium.

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Well, I think it was always a bit harder to get film writing work than stage writing. The budgets are bigger, the stakes are higher.

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His directly-credited work in it, either for original story and/or screenplay or as adaptations of his own stage plays, total nine by my count. Come to think of it, nine is also the number of his produced plays over a period of 25 years, after which he lived nearly another 25 without actively contributing to another play or film. Perhaps as a creative type, it was merely that he wasn't an especially "driven" sort of personality. As I say, intriguing.

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You've touched here on a fantasy that I will never get to live: being a creative writer(for film, for plays) and earning enough early on that...you never have to work again. Or even later. Cary Grant was rich enough to retire from movies at age 62 and live 20 more years of leisure.

But Grant was an actor. Actors with big paychecks could ALL retire young but they like to work, and they are in demand and its easy for them. Other people do the hard work of writing and directing.

The idea that Samuel Taylor could finish most of his work by 1972(it looks like the nudity-laced Billy Wilder sex comedy Avanti! was his last film -- from his own play)...and take off the rest of his life...well, a fantasy for me.

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While both a "first" and a "last" for Taylor the director, The Monte Carlo Story represents another "first," apropos of our recent discussion here of the merits of VistaVision: it was the inaugural film of Technicolor's own big-screen process, Vistarama.

What Vistarama did was adopt the "Lazy 8" configuration of VistaVision, applying anamorphic optics to that system's horizontally-exposed 35mm negative to yield a widescreen image of 2.25:1. Indeed, the first Vistarama cameras were VistaVision ones modified from three-strip Technicolor negatives to Eastman "monopack." A little irony there.

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Hoo boy! And here I had finally mastered to the best of my abilities the technicalities of VistaVision itself and now I learn of ...Vistarama? Wha? Any idea how many movies were shot in this process, give or take? And when it gave up the ghost?

I expect Hitchcock had no interest in it. He rejected Cinemascope, Panavision, and other "letterbox" screen sizes because indeed, he wanted to work in close-ups. VistaVision, he could handle. Vistarama? No can do.

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Did anyone here realize that Sam Taylor, screenwriter of Vertigo and Topaz

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One a classic, the other less so. Funny Ernest Lehman almost ended up with the same deal -- NXNW and Family Plot, though I think Family Plot is somewhat better than Topaz.

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(and frequent Hitchcock vacation companion)

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One of the books I guess WE read on Hitchcock, doghouse, pointed out that Taylor and his wife were almost "forcible" vacation companions -- they practically HAD to go when Hitchcock and Alma beckoned, even if they hadn't worked on movies with him in years. But I suppose there are worse things in life than going to St. Moritz with Alfred Hitchcock.

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had once directed a film? I hadn't.

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Nor I. Your ensuing post and the responses are very interesting.

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I recently stumbled upon The Monte Carlo Story (1956), directed by Taylor from his own script. It concerns titled but now-impoverished nobles Marlene Dietrich and Vittorio De Sica trading on the illusions of their former wealth while fortune-hunting. Each scopes out and zeroes in on the other, not realizing, of course, that the other is as broke as they. Having found one another out, they adopt a new strategy, teaming up to pose as siblings as they look for new wealthy prospects.

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Nifty plot. And it sounds like a variation on the plot in several other movies, like "Five Golden Hours" with Ernie Kovacs(made shortly before his too-young death from a car crash in 1962) and Cyd Charisse. And then there was Arreverdci Baby! with Tony Curtis as a guy who married and murdered women for money meeting a woman who does the same with men.

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Just as he did for Sabrina Fair and its film adaptation,

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Adapted by -- wait for it -- ERNEST LEHMAN. So the writers of Vertigo and North by Northwest collaborated. Or perhaps the writers of Topaz and Family Plot. No, it was Vertigo and NXNW -- these were the early works of sharp writers.

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Taylor gently lampoons privileged lifestyles in a comedy of manners that aspires to an Ernst Lubitsch-like lightness and delicacy, but which instead often succumbs to a pace so stately as to seem leaden,

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Its too bad. First-time celebrity director Clint Eastwood went for a thriller for his debut -- Play Misty For Me. A thriller has "built in" surefire narrative techniques and visual techniques to keep things interesting. But trying to "do a Lubitsch" starting out -- one has to have a great sense of comic timing and sophistication, a certain "feel" for the genre.

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, coming to life only when folksy Arthur O'Connell, as a nouveau riche American, enters halfway through as Dietrich's new target for a rich marriage. O'Connell's good-natured and unabashedly "fish out of water" demeanor mines the charm in such scenes as Dietrich's coaching him through his first go at the chemin de fer tables, and is an energetically effective counterpoint to the cool self-possession of the Teutonic temptress.

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Just the idea of Marlene Dietrich and Arthur O'Connell sharing the screen, dialogue and characters amuses me in the reading. O'Connell sure was a major character guy there for about a decade -- from Bus Stop and Picnic through Anatomy of a Murder and on to The 7 Faces of Dr. Lao(for George Pal, and as a villain) and right up through Dino's Hefner-esque Bond spoof, The Silencers. (As often with character people, I lose track of when O'Connell stopped working and then died; probably around the time Ned Beatty and Charles Durning came in.)

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I always felt that when he wore his moustache(which was usually), O'Connell looked like a cartoon character out of Chuck Jones' lab. He wasn't quite a "realistic" actor, and yet he was put in some very realistic movies. And I regret that he never did a Hitchcock film -- I guess he was too cartoonish to fit. Guys like Martin Balsam and Martin Landau and Harold J. Stone(The Wrong Man) had more gravitas.

O'Connell's drunken, whimsical lawyer in "Anatomy of a Murder" is possibly his greatest role. He's tall Jimmy Stewart's little buddy, his sidekick, and Stewart tells O'Connell that he loves him at one point. Its meant to be brotherly love -- not gay at all -- but it almost FEELS like a romantic relationship. These two men are never shown enjoying the company of women.

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Taylor's very next project after The Monte Carlo Story was Vertigo. One can't help but wonder if it might have turned out differently if the order had been reversed, and after Taylor had learned a trick or two from Hitch about how to craft and assemble a film.

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That's an interesting idea. A number of the actors who became directors said they studied the great directors with whom they worked AS they worked to "see how its done." I assume some of it can be picked up.

Clint Eastwood noted in an interview that he hit as a star just in time to miss guys like Hawks and Hitchcock in their prime; he didn't work with them(and Hitchcock offered him the unmade "The Short Night.") He zeroed in on Sergio Leone and Don Siegel as mentors -- and credited them both , when they were both dead, in Unforgiven.

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It does muster a certain appeal and, while the entire gossamer atmosphere seems more suited to twenty years earlier,

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...like those Hitchcockian homages made in the 70s..

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when insouciant globe-trotters were such a staple of escapist fare, The Monte Carlo Story frustrates with unrealized potential.

To paraphrase our friend Arbogast, Taylor just didn't get all there was to get.

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He IS our friend Arbogast. Well , mine. I've always felt it ironic that a sketchily backgrounded character -- really intended to be a plot device and a murder victim -- somehow came to bigger life than that, inscrutable in his own way as Norman was in his , surprisingly warm in the home stretch. An interesting man with a lifespan of 20 screen minutes.

And this:

In Stefano's script: "I don't think I got all there was to get. I'm just going to pick up the scent from here."

In the film: "I don't think I got all there was to get. I'm just going to pick up the pieces from here."

I guess following the scent of Marion Crane was too...Hays Code suggestive?

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True enough, although the New York theater, then as now, came with its own built-in obstacle: the relative scarcity of opportunities; hundreds of films produced each year versus only dozens of B'way shows.
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"You've touched here on a fantasy that I will never get to live: being a creative writer(for film, for plays) and earning enough early on that...you never have to work again. Or even later."
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I made a similar remark to a co-worker about 35 years ago. He replied, "If we didn't work, all we'd do is eat, sleep, sh*t and f*ck." I said, "So you're telling me that all you do now is eat, sleep, sh*t, f*ck...and work? Surely you have more imagination than that." I was teasing him, as he was of course talking about society as a whole, while we're just talking about ourselves.

I guess the people I envy most are those who love their work so much that they do the same thing for recreation without getting paid for it. Or perhaps I should say, those who find something they love doing that will also pay the rent. My programmer husband, for example, unwinds from a 60-hour workweek by designing and executing his own just-for-fun projects. He turns 62 today and it's only been this year that he's started making noises about retiring. And what does he want to do with his free time? Dream up software to write.

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"And here I had finally mastered to the best of my abilities the technicalities of VistaVision itself and now I learn of ...Vistarama? Wha? Any idea how many movies were shot in this process, give or take? And when it gave up the ghost?
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Not quite as many as VistaVision's 100 or so, but it hung on for about a dozen years. Among the roughly 70, some of the most notable were Auntie Mame, The Vikings, The Big Country, Spartacus, El Cid, The Music Man, Gypsy, 55 Days At Peking, The Pink Panther and Zulu. I took a look at Auntie Mame in HD a couple nights ago on our cable system's On Demand service, and the image quality was spectacular.
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"I expect Hitchcock had no interest in it. He rejected Cinemascope, Panavision, and other "letterbox" screen sizes because indeed, he wanted to work in close-ups. VistaVision, he could handle. Vistarama? No can do."
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That's both a disappointment and a puzzle to me, given his adventurous "experiments" like Lifeboat, Rope and, yes, Psycho. Except for, possibly, North By Northwest, The Birds seems like the most logical choice for dabbling in the wide screen, immediately following his low-budget, quickly-shot, TV-unit-produced little B&W thriller with a technological extravaganza. I'd imagine his choices to fill a wide frame would have been at least as interesting as those of, say, David Lean, had he chosen to challenge himself in the same way.

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I have an old book, "The Films Of Marlene Dietrich," and the big feature photo on The Monte Carlo Story's chapter page has she and O'Connell all smiles in a warm embrace. In the 50-odd years since I first saw that photo, I've thought, "Now, THAT'S a film I have to catch up with someday." As it happens, I recall no such scene in the film, and it does rather have the informal look of a candid on-set "grab" shot.
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"In the film: 'I don't think I got all there was to get. I'm just going to pick up the pieces from here.'

I guess following the scent of Marion Crane was too...Hays Code suggestive?"
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Or perhaps Balsam suggesting a change to something that just felt more right for the character or more natural for him to say. That's something Lucille Ball would do with I Love Lucy scripts, which she called "naturalizing" her dialogue, and it could sometimes amount to only a single word. From writer Stefano's standpoint, he may have thought of Arbogast as a sort of bloodhound. Balsam, in realizing the character for the camera, might have conceived him more along the lines of someone methodically assembling a puzzle. Just guesses.

But here's another guess: more Hitchcock private gallows humor, invoking slicing and slashing just as Saul Bass's title sequence does. A groan-inducing pun like "rest in pieces" is just the sort that appealed to him, isn't it?

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"In the film: 'I don't think I got all there was to get. I'm just going to pick up the pieces from here.'

I guess following the scent of Marion Crane was too...Hays Code suggestive?"
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Or perhaps Balsam suggesting a change to something that just felt more right for the character or more natural for him to say. That's something Lucille Ball would do with I Love Lucy scripts, which she called "naturalizing" her dialogue, and it could sometimes amount to only a single word.

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I've noted before that Martin Balsam seems to have changed his lines the MOST from Stefano's version to "the Balsam version." Mainly he made Arbogast more amiable and natural, starting sentences with "Uh, well..." and things like that. He also managed to ADD words that made Arbogast more articulate than the Stefano version -- and got himself more screen time(but Hitchcock seems to have liked the results; no cuts, no word of him stopping Balsam.) I think he added, for instance "Let's say, just for the sake of argument..."

Other actors in Psycho -- Vera Miles and John Gavin to name two -- stick a lot more closely to the script than Balsam. And when William H. Macy played Arbogast -- he used Balsam's version of the lines, not Stefano's(likely had them typed up from the movie itself.)

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From writer Stefano's standpoint, he may have thought of Arbogast as a sort of bloodhound. Balsam, in realizing the character for the camera, might have conceived him more along the lines of someone methodically assembling a puzzle. Just guesses.

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Seems about right. One thing I personally always liked about Hitchcock's characters is how cool and collected they were, how watching their thought processes was entertainment unto itself. Arbogast butters Norman up, relaxes him, asks question after question -- and then throws little grenades in :"Did you spend the night with her? Well, how did you know she didn't make any calls?" or "And here you said nobody was here for a coupla weeks...and here's a couple came in just a week ago."

I rather missed an Arbogast character in The Birds one film later. The film didn't need a murder victim per se, but a witty and sardonic guy couldn't have hurt. In The Birds, only the salesman in the Tides Diner and -- in radically different apparel -- fisherman Sebastian Sholes -- seemed to have some of Arbo's middle-aged masculine snap and crackle. But I must face it: The Birds is very much about...the birds. The chicks. The ladies.

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But here's another guess: more Hitchcock private gallows humor, invoking slicing and slashing just as Saul Bass's title sequence does. A groan-inducing pun like "rest in pieces" is just the sort that appealed to him, isn't it?

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Oh, I like that interpretation very much. After all, Hitchcock told Truffaut that Marion was "slashed to pieces under her shower."

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"I rather missed an Arbogast character in The Birds one film later. The film didn't need a murder victim per se, but a witty and sardonic guy couldn't have hurt. In The Birds, only the salesman in the Tides Diner and -- in radically different apparel -- fisherman Sebastian Sholes -- seemed to have some of Arbo's middle-aged masculine snap and crackle."
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A couple nights ago, I caught up with The Night Of the Generals, director Anatole Litvak's penultimate feature with an intriguing premise - a WWII German military whodunnit with "flash-forwards" - and a powerhouse cast: Peter O'Toole, Omar Sharif, Tom Courtenay, Donald Pleasance, Christopher Plummer and Phillipe Noiret.

It fell short of being successful in my book due to what I'd call dramatic imbalance, and (without straying too far into spoiler territory) for killing off the most interesting character about 2/3 of the way through. It was a genuine shock, but as Hitchcock was so fond of saying, that lasts only five seconds. Afterward, the film was devoid of that "masculine snap and crackle," and unlike Psycho, it rather brought momentum to a halt rather than kicking it into another gear. Instead of an increasingly tense third act, it was all anticlimactic "bookkeeping."

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A couple nights ago, I caught up with The Night Of the Generals, director Anatole Litvak's penultimate feature with an intriguing premise - a WWII German military whodunnit with "flash-forwards" - and a powerhouse cast: Peter O'Toole, Omar Sharif, Tom Courtenay, Donald Pleasance, Christopher Plummer and Phillipe Noiret.

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The Night of the Generals! That's one I never saw, but, in my sixties youth, read the print ads and reviews for (bad grammar.) I think I had a "thriller gene" built into me and I spent much of the late sixties/early seventies trying to "catch up" -- on Psycho, yes, but also Charade and Rosemary's Baby and all sorts of things I wasn't allowed to see. Like...Night of the Generals. Maybe I should go looking now.

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It fell short of being successful in my book due to what I'd call dramatic imbalance, and (without straying too far into spoiler territory) for killing off the most interesting character about 2/3 of the way through. It was a genuine shock, but as Hitchcock was so fond of saying, that lasts only five seconds. Afterward, the film was devoid of that "masculine snap and crackle," and unlike Psycho, it rather brought momentum to a halt rather than kicking it into another gear. Instead of an increasingly tense third act, it was all anticlimactic "bookkeeping."

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I have my suspicions about what happens...maybe even memories(from reviews? I've never seen it.)

By analogy, my favorite films of the 80's(The Untouchables) and the 90's(LA Confidential) take out the most interesting character early. And I'd say in both cases, the third act is missing something. Though some revenge is enacted.

Psycho takes out TWO characters early. Its why the third act coasts on suspense and terror while being light on character(its a sinking feeling when we realize we're down to ..Sam and Lila. Even Norman rather ignores them!)

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Hitchcock was never one to elaborate on character, but I found this exchange(paraphrased) in an interview of Hitch by his fellow(lesser) director, Bryan Forbes:

Forbes: I was really interested in the character of Arbogast in Psycho. I found him fascinating and I wanted to follow him to the end of the story. But you threw that all away and killed him off rather quickly.

Hitchcock: Well...that was the whole point.

And then pretty much "next question."

Hitchcock's answer made its point, I guess: build up this private eye as the probable hero of the piece and then kill him off just as Marion was -- but even more quickly. Its as if Hitchcock cared little that Arbogast "interested us" -- he just wanted the shock twist.

I've opined "What if Arbogast lived?" I can see it, with a little script tweaking. He gets the information and Norman throws him out. He goes back to Fairvale and reports to Sam and Lila. On Sunday, he elects to drive out of town to get a warrant from the judge on Monday. Sam and Lila do their investigating. Same climax. Arbo gets to be in the DA's office and hear the shrink's spiel...maybe ask some pointed questions.

Not much really left for Arbo, that way, is there?

Oh, he could figure in the climax and help Sam overcome Norman but...no, I guess its better he got killed. Or as one writer on Psycho once wrote, "the most spectacular martyrdom in the history of real screen projection."

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"And here I had finally mastered to the best of my abilities the technicalities of VistaVision itself and now I learn of ...Vistarama? Wha? Any idea how many movies were shot in this process, give or take? And when it gave up the ghost?
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Were these all called "Vistarama" productions? I seem to remember another name for it in Auntie Mame. Like maybe Technosope or some such?

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"I expect Hitchcock had no interest in it. He rejected Cinemascope, Panavision, and other "letterbox" screen sizes because indeed, he wanted to work in close-ups. VistaVision, he could handle. Vistarama? No can do."
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That's both a disappointment and a puzzle to me, given his adventurous "experiments" like Lifeboat, Rope and, yes, Psycho. Except for, possibly, North By Northwest, The Birds seems like the most logical choice for dabbling in the wide screen, immediately following his low-budget, quickly-shot, TV-unit-produced little B&W thriller with a technological extravaganza. I'd imagine his choices to fill a wide frame would have been at least as interesting as those of, say, David Lean, had he chosen to challenge himself in the same way.

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Irony: since I saw NXNW first on TV, and The Birds there after a 1963 theatrical viewing I barely remember, I thought they WERE in wide screen.

Then I saw them in revival -- along with practically every other Hitchcock movie from Rear Window on and found that -- nope -- no wide screen. Imagine how great Rushmore would have looked THAT way, or the birds diving down on Bodega Bay?

Hitchcock seemed irritated by the requirements of (I'd heard) having to build table tops higher than normal to get in the frame and other "tricks."

Part of the reasons some of my favorite films of a given year ARE my favorite films of a given year are that they were in Panavision or something else "wide": it made movies feel more expensive to me, more "top of the line." In 1969, The Wild Bunch and Butch Cassidy were in wide screen; True Grit was not. It made True Grit seem a bit chintzier.


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Other Panavision favorites include: The Professionals, MASH, Dirty Harry(with that great screen-filling shot of Harry aiming his big gun at night in Kezar Stadium), Chinatown, Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Silverado, The Untouchables. I don't think The Godfather was in wide screen, though. It would have worked against the period, I think.

My favorite movie of 1987 (The Untouchables) was wide screen; as was my favorite movie of 1988(Die Hard.) I was EXPECTING wide screen for my favorite movie of 1989(Batman) but...nope. Who knows why? And I don't think ET was wide screen. Terms of Endearment wasn't wide screen, but the story didn't require it.

The Dark Knight was letterbox wide screen, but I saw it at an early IMAX theater where only certain SEQUENCES were done IMAX -- suddenly the screen got more big, but more "square."

As for Hitchcock? Assuming Wide Screen as a phenmenon that started in the fifties, how about these in wide screen: North by Northwest, The Birds....Vertigo, The Man Who Knew Too Much...The Trouble With Harry(his body is wide-screen). I thinks wide screen would spoil the "box houses" effect of Rear Window, though. Wide screen might have helped the outdoor scenes in Torn Curtain and certainly the runaway car in Family Plot. But Marnie, Topaz, Frenzy? Nope. Oh, maybe Marnie's fox hunt via helicopter. Maybe Frenzy's opening Thames shot via helicopter.

Oh, hell, he coulda wide screened em ALL after Dial M, I suppose. And Strangers on a Train, if he could have gotten to it. (Hey: the greatness of the b/w Panavision movie: The Apartment, Lonely Are the Brave..anything else?)

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All of the films shot in Vistarama were released domestically on CinemaScope prints (and, indeed, a few carried CinemaScope in their credits rather than Vistarama), or in 70mm roadshow prints. The copy of Auntie Mame that I saw carried the Vistarama logo.

Techniscope and its illegitimate cousin Superscope were bargain-basement widescreen, and went in the opposite direction of either VistaVision or Technirama. It took the standard 4-perf 35mm frame and split it horizontally to achieve two 2.35:1 images without anamorphic lenses.

So, while VistaVision and Vistarama increased resolution by exposing a larger frame area (and ate up twice as much stock), Techniscope reduced resolution by halving the frame area and exposing one half after the other (thereby reducing the amount of stock used by getting two successive images rather than one for every 4-perfs).

I hope I explained that in something approaching intelligibility.

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"I think it was always a bit harder to get film writing work than stage writing. The budgets are bigger, the stakes are higher."
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True enough, although the New York theater, then as now, came with its own built-in obstacle: the relative scarcity of opportunities; hundreds of films produced each year versus only dozens of B'way shows.

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That response chain is under the heading (from my end) of "D'oh! Or "I did not KNOW that."

Makes Broadway a LOT harder even if the productions (to my knowledge) don't cost as much as even a mid-budget movie.

Recall(on topic) that Tony Perkins said he told Hitchcock, as Psycho neared end of production, "You know, Hitch, you should take this to Broadway as a play." Hitch dismissed the idea, but -- hey, those Norman/Marion; Norman/Arbogast Norman/Sam and Lila exchanges ARE the stuff of play writing, aren't they? Too bad they are matched by cinematic flourishes (the shower scene, the staircase murder) that just can't be matched on stage. Still...why not ...and, wouldn't it have been fascinating to see Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho was a stage play DIRECTED by him? (Not so much, he told one interviewer about stage directing in general: "I have no idea how it is done.")


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"Recall(on topic) that Tony Perkins said he told Hitchcock, as Psycho neared end of production, 'You know, Hitch, you should take this to Broadway as a play.'"
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"Still...why not ...and, wouldn't it have been fascinating to see Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho was a stage play DIRECTED by him? (Not so much, he told one interviewer about stage directing in general: "I have no idea how it is done.")"
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In a way, he'd already gotten halfway there with Rope. I liken the experience of watching that film to that of watching a play while being allowed to step up onto the stage and wander among the players. I suspect he'd have managed if he'd cared to give it a whirl, but perhaps it was just too far out of his comfort zone.

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"You've touched here on a fantasy that I will never get to live: being a creative writer(for film, for plays) and earning enough early on that...you never have to work again. Or even later."
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I made a similar remark to a co-worker about 35 years ago. He replied, "If we didn't work, all we'd do is eat, sleep, sh*t and f*ck."

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Hmmm...well...there's hiking and bike riding....and just plain walking around the neighborhood. I have done and enjoyed all in my spare time now.

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I said, "So you're telling me that all you do now is eat, sleep, sh*t, f*ck...and work? Surely you have more imagination than that."

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Ha. Sounds like you right here on the boards!

--- I was teasing him, as he was of course talking about society as a whole, while we're just talking about ourselves.

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Well, my retirement time hasn't come yet, but I do think about it. I think about the risks -- watching DVDs all the time, coming HERE too often(I promise I won't do that, I've fought it during vacations and whatnot, there is only so much anyone wants to even SEE pop up, let alone read, from me.)

One plan of mine is to catch up on all the Great Books I skipped when I was young. Now, its all Great Movies. But Great Books take more effort.

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I guess the people I envy most are those who love their work so much that they do the same thing for recreation without getting paid for it. Or perhaps I should say, those who find something they love doing that will also pay the rent.

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Film critic Richard Schickel called his various film critic jobs(for Life, for Time) EXACTLY that. And aren't we all indulging that same need on these boards? "Professional" critics rage about internet bloggers and the like putting them out of business with "amateur writing"-- but I think a lot of intelligent people who CAN'T make a living writing about film, like to do it here for free. And as I always say about my own posts: "I'm talking about films, not writing about them." (I would buy magazines to read some of the writing I've read here from others, I might add.)

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My programmer husband, for example, unwinds from a 60-hour workweek by designing and executing his own just-for-fun projects. He turns 62 today and it's only been this year that he's started making noises about retiring. And what does he want to do with his free time? Dream up software to write

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Well -- if that's what he does for work -- sometimes doing work "the way you want to, at your own pace, for your own needs" -- can be a good retirement.

Happy Belated Birthday to him! Good tidings to you both. 62 is the new 52, possibly the new 42. Says I!

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Many thanks. I turned 65 in April, and our current goal is to outlive the pets - 3 cats and a willful dachshund - and have at least a few more years beyond that to be free of litter boxes and puke, dog-walking and "protest puddles" for leaving the house for longer than our canine tyrant deems acceptable.

They're spoiled rotten and walk all over us (literally, sometimes). Salvation lies in surviving to be empty-nesters.

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I am blocking anyone that posts off topic on this board.

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