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Marriage would have been a disaster


I saw the film again on T.V. a couple of days ago after a long time.
While I agree this is a very atmospheric and fascinating film noir
I found the ending unsettling.
The film would have us believe that if Dix's innocence had been established
a day or two earlier he and Laurel would have had a happy marriage.
The fact of the matter was that Dix was a violent abusive man who hit
a kindly old friend who was only trying to help him,started ordering his
fiance around like an oppressive bully etc etc.
Hardly good husband material. Women should ensure they do not get involved
with such men let alone considering marrying them.
I feel if they had got married it would have soon degenerated into an
abusive relationship. Laurel was best out of it- a narrow escape.

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I totally agree, but Laurel still had feelings for him. Like many such women, she wanted to believe things would have been different, and so she deluded herself. Of course, sooner or later, he would have started knocking her around. Eventually, she probably came to realize how lucky she was not to have married Dixon. Much of his trouble was no doubt due to battle fatigue, and in those days, divorce was not common, no matter what. The world changed, which is why so many combat veterans of later wars have been married three or more times. I was luckier than many, and I'm grateful for it.

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I just commented on another subject about the movie, so I'll repost part of that here since it touches on everything you covered: "I had never see this movie before; caught part of it on Thursday afternoon, then woke up at 3 AM to see a repeat on AntennaTV -- which I thank so much for airing it! What a brilliant ending and had it had the typical happy ending, it wouldn't have been the same. As someone in law enforcement who has regrettably had to come in on the conclusion of way too many domestic violence cases (I work crime scenes), had these two characters married, it would have ended in one of two ways -- her running for her life or him being locked up for her murder. Considering this film came out in 1950, it was amazing how well it captured the circle of abuse in these type of relationships: he loves her; he abuses her physically or emotionally; he begs forgiveness; she forgives him...and the circle begins again."

So in response to your own comments, I HEARTILY AGREE! Like you, I also caught the dialogue about had they known several days before, and I thought "Like it would have mattered anyway if you think beyond 'Oh they could have lived happily ever after.'" You're right in that Dix was already revealing the sort of man he was, and the type of relationship he and Laurel would have had. One day it's his poor old manager. Another day it's the UCLA student. The next it would have been Laurel, who likely -- for a time, would have wondered what SHE was doing wrong to incite him. The scene in the restaurant was even more intense (for me personally) than the one after the beach scene because you see the tension even more, as well as the suspicion and mistrust. By the time we get to the very end, when I half-expected him to either kick down the door or force open a window, well, it was a crescendo of jealousy, violence...and what has likely been the line of many domestic violence killers as they murdered their wife, girlfriend or ex "I'll never let you go."

I think that in the near future, when Laurel reads in the paper that Dix has been arrested for assault or murder (probably when the director of the movie adaptation or an actor decides to change a line of his screenplay), well, as you said, she'll realize that she escaped with her life!

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Thanks very much to both of you for your extremely interesting comments.
You both expanded on my post superbly.

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Thank you for posting what the reality of this movie would have been, particularly in such a clear and compassionate way.

I just commented on another subject about the movie, so I'll repost part of that here since it touches on everything you covered: "I had never see this movie before; caught part of it on Thursday afternoon, then woke up at 3 AM to see a repeat on AntennaTV -- which I thank so much for airing it! What a brilliant ending and had it had the typical happy ending, it wouldn't have been the same. As someone in law enforcement who has regrettably had to come in on the conclusion of way too many domestic violence cases (I work crime scenes), had these two characters married, it would have ended in one of two ways -- her running for her life or him being locked up for her murder. Considering this film came out in 1950, it was amazing how well it captured the circle of abuse in these type of relationships: he loves her; he abuses her physically or emotionally; he begs forgiveness; she forgives him...and the circle begins again."

So in response to your own comments, I HEARTILY AGREE! Like you, I also caught the dialogue about had they known several days before, and I thought "Like it would have mattered anyway if you think beyond 'Oh they could have lived happily ever after.'" You're right in that Dix was already revealing the sort of man he was, and the type of relationship he and Laurel would have had. One day it's his poor old manager. Another day it's the UCLA student. The next it would have been Laurel, who likely -- for a time, would have wondered what SHE was doing wrong to incite him. The scene in the restaurant was even more intense (for me personally) than the one after the beach scene because you see the tension even more, as well as the suspicion and mistrust. By the time we get to the very end, when I half-expected him to either kick down the door or force open a window, well, it was a crescendo of jealousy, violence...and what has likely been the line of many domestic violence killers as they murdered their wife, girlfriend or ex "I'll never let you go."

I think that in the near future, when Laurel reads in the paper that Dix has been arrested for assault or murder (probably when the director of the movie adaptation or an actor decides to change a line of his screenplay), well, as you said, she'll realize that she escaped with her life!

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Thank you for posting what the reality of this movie would have been, particularly in such a clear and compassionate way.


When I saw that my reply had been commented on after so long, I actually had to reread what I had written because it's been at least three years since I wrote that. I haven't seen the movie since then, but returning to this thread has made me recall what an incredibly powerful film it was, especially for 1950. And obviously it's still shaking us up a bit if the thread remains somewhat active, which is fantastic; this is a movie that deserves to be talked about.

Thanks so much for your kind words.

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I agree completely. He would have beaten the life out of her in the long run.

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I agree as well - I thought it was a very happy ending, because Laurel had been spared from marrying a monster.

What confuses me - was the audience in 1950 expected to be disappointed that they did not marry at the end? Did the 1950 audience see this as a sad or tragic ending - that if only Dixon had been cleared a few days earlier they could have gotten married?

I suspect at the time people did view the ending as "sad" because the issue of abuse was then so little recognized and understood.

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was the audience in 1950 expected to be disappointed that they did not marry at the end?


Nah I don't think so. The movie makes it pretty obvious that Dixon is a violent guy who can't control himself. He almost killed Laurel at the end of the movie. No sane person would see that and say that its too bad that they didnt still get married after that.

The ending is positive, because she got out of that relationship before getting hurt worse. Its also a sad ending though, because it sucks that it had to be that way. Most movies have themes of redemption and personal growth, but the theme of this movie is stagnation and loneliness. Dixon leads a miserable and lonely life because he can't control his temper and he can't find happiness in anything for more than a very temporary time period.

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I believe we're in a more enlightened age today. I think back in the fifties people didn't know about the circle of abuse that's pretty well known today. I think abuse was kept behind closed doors back in the old days.

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I just saw this today and was blown away by how different times are now. The excuses that people made for him...he's a writer, he's dynamite and has to blow sometimes. I thought that they did a great job of showing the fear that comes with being under an abusive person's thumb, for her and his agent.

I think that it's masterfully done in that you kind of hope something magically works out for them, much as many people in abusive relationships today hope for the same thing. That never comes.

She dodged a bullet.

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I agree that it seems she dodged a bullet, but I couldn't help wondering if it would really be that easy-that he would slink away in shame, never to bother her again, even though he lives next door. In real life, would he really have let her go so easily?

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I wondered the same thing. If she was smart she'd take that cancelled plane ticket and high-tail it to New York.


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I certainly agreed that she was saved by the bell. Literally, the telephone bell. He was in the process of murdering her when the telephone ringing snapped him out of his desperate, blind rage. To have had the exoneration of Mildred's murder two days earlier might well have led eventually to her own death, certainly into an abusive marriage, even though she knew he was bad news.

That's part of the genius of this movie, what makes it stand the test of time. Perhaps in the movie's era such an ending would be moving because hopes and dreams weren't realized... love lost. Today it's equally compelling because we breathe a huge sigh of relief that she escaped his clutches.

Quite a feat of film making, to have a movie work across vastly different eras the way "In A Lonely Place" does. A masterpiece!

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The tragedy isn't just that his innocence wasn't established soon enough. It was that his neurotic, abusive personality would have prevented them from having a good relationship, in spite of the fact that, in some ways, they were soulmates. It was all just doomed from the start.

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Agreed 100%. If they weren't soulmates, there would be no tragedy. The fact that he was poisonous to their happiness was the tragedy. If it was just a dead relationship, no potential there at all, what's to mourn?

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