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Does this film hold up?


I'm exploring a lot of older/classic movies as I'm looking to expand my tastes in cinema, but over the course of this experiment, I find it's really a toss up on some of the greats on whether or not they hold up. I loved 12 Angry Men, but Casablanca made me fall asleep (I didn't outright hate it of course, but literally falling asleep doesn't rate well). Psycho left me wanting too and that's Hitchcock's best known work.

So does this film hold up well, or does the high score just reflect the score it deserved at the time it was made?

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Never understood the concept of 'holding up', nor the criticism of 'dated'. Things like that appeal to me. I want to be sucked in to the time it was made.

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Same here. All the time I see threads like this one and I just don't understand that mindset. What's so bad about it being "dated"? I mean, I don't have anything against movies that deal with "modern issues", but watching old movies has always been really fun for me. It certainly gets you to think of the past and life back then, which I find really interesting.

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Huzzah for this little threadlet. "Holding up" really refers to the mindset of the viewer--can you tolerate immersing yourself in another culture for ninety minutes or more, or do you start to squirm when exposed to the opinions and morés of a largely different society, one which had educated its citizens well enough that their minds could endure a lengthy conversation without a multitude of explosions or blows to the face.


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It looks too much like a stage play and the lighting just emphasizes it.

Its that man again!!

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... And that is supposed to be bad? I liked the stage play aspect.

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I watched this for the first time last year and I think it holds up better than most of his other movies. You don't have the weird fast-forwarding, lackluster action scenes or fake driving. instead of falling in the "good for it's time"-category like "North by Northwest" or "Psycho" it's still it's own thing. Since it is in the style of a play it's more difficult to compare with modern movies.

I fully understand those who don't like it though. The pace is unusual and the acting is unnatural, to me that's not really a bad thing though. It's just different.

Also, I like what someone said about old movies being enjoyable just for the sake of giving you that "old" feel only they have.

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I would agree to some degree that Psycho and Casablanca are overrated films in general. Casablanca has a great ending, but it does drag at times, and Psycho is really not a very menacing film anymore compared to the best horror/thriller films in history. I don't understand what 69% of the films in the top 250 are even doing there. Anyway, in my view Rope is much better than either of those films you mentioned and personally it's my second favorite Hitchcock film next to The Birds. Those two films hold up better than Psycho, and so do many other Hitch films, such as Strangers On A Train and Rear Window. A few things bother me about Rear Window, but it's hard to argue its greatness in ways as well.

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i honestly have to say this movie dissapointed me a little to, i was hoping on a real intelligent plan or plot( the perfect murder) these killers had thought of but there was nothing like that, they where just 2 idiots. Beside that i love the movie for what the eye gets but for the mind it's really dissapointing

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Rope was always a mediocre piece of filmmaking by Hitchcock wrapped around the one long shot gimmick. Sit through it for yourself. It is very cheesy and evden the gimmick starts to be annoying. A standard roll of film has 10 minutes at the most of continuous action. The gimmick is the transitions from real to real not looking like a cut. A shot of opening or closing a medicine cabinet or door, etc.... etc....

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Your taste, and many others, including my own would disagree. Casablanca is wonder and Psycho is beyond great.

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Just finished watching it for the first time, and I thought it was more "contemporary" than most of Hitchcock's work. Particularly the ending is very chilling and ahead of its time: with Stewart standing guard over the chest, the two perpetrators in the background doing what is in their nature as they listen to their impending doom (the outside world being let in to judge them). It's fantastic. I would say it's the earliest "modern" ending to a film I've encountered.

People seem to be arguing that it somehow features stilted acting and were disappointed at the lack of an elaborate plot. I thought it was pretty clear from the start these were two amateurs that had no idea what they were doing, but had delusions of grandeur (the one of them at least). The contrived pseudo-intellectual dialogue was clearly intentional, seeing as how these were a collection of individuals that fancied themselves to be "elite thinkers" and "higher" members of the human race. Over the course of the film, we are shown just how much of a folly their ideas and their philosophies and posturing are. Everyone at the party is performing for one another out of a sense of keeping things amicable (sound familiar?), and given the strange circumstances surrounding the events, it makes sense that it all seems forced and phony. People ARE forced and phony. That's why the one guy is getting such a kick out of the whole proceeding: he sees himself and his companion as finally stepping out of that world, and is lording himself above it, playing everyone for fools as they dance for him. Only the harsh reality that is brought upon him is that he's actually not above it at all. He's just like the rest of them, doing his own performance that matters for naught as he too will be judged.

The film holds up fantastically well. I actually first came on here to see if anyone had been discussing how contemporary it felt considering when it was made. The only thing that I find really distracting is when they can't more seamlessly transition the long shots. A few are well done, but a few more are quite obvious. However, seeing as how Birdman (which was made just last year) couldn't get around that perfectly either, I won't say that's a dated sort of thing, but just an issue with attempting a "single-shot" movie thing. But overall I'd say this is one of Hitchcock's best.

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Oh, I think that it's an amazing movie. Definitely one of Hitchcock's best.

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Psycho is to me rather overrated though at the time it was groundbreaking in its themes.

Rope is very watchable but some of the performances are a little stilted - though the ending is effective. I would place it on a lower tier then Hitchcock's best films, e.g. Vertigo, which is a real psychological masterpiece.

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