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This film is NOT racist! Shame on the NAACP for what they are doing!!


This film won't be released because people are afraid of the stereotypes of the african american culture. Let me tell you something, there is nothing stereotypical about this film. Its a great film that the whole family can enjoy. The hero of this film is Uncle Remus who happens to be a black man! I mean he saves the day! This is why I am ashamed at groups like the NAACP because they are supposed to be the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People... Well look at the history surrounding this film, James Baskett who played uncle remus in the film won an academy award for his performance as Uncle Remus! That is a major achievement in black history! Anyways there is no racism in this film whatsoever, and it is a heartfelt warm family story. The message is actually the opposite of racist in that black and whites are playing together throughout the film. Its great.

So by not releasing this film I believe it is being more racist. The African American community is holding back the recognition from themselves! Historically this film probably changed alot of people's minds about race when it was first released in the mid 1940's. To show black and white kids playing together was rare let alone on a big screen! Historically it is amazing and the people trying to hold it back are the true racists. Face it.... if the NAACP really practiced what they preach they would be demanding the release of this film not banning it! I am ashamed that an organization like NAACP, which I have nothing but the upmost respect for, would be doing this in the first place. But as with all political groups... sometimes they get it right and sometimes they don't. I have many African American friends who agree with me and love this movie and the message it portrays. I am very surprised that this cute little beloved Disney film is one of the most controversial films ever!

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Joel Chandler Harris a native of Eatonton, Georgia and an American Journalist, fiction writer, and folklorist authored in 1881 during the post-Civil War and during the Post-Reconstruction period in Atlanta, Georgia a collection of Folk tales based on African-American oral traditions and Cherokee folk tales. The compilation of these stories was titled "Uncle Remus". Some chide Harris other praise Harris for his observation of what I have come to view as the plight of slaves under the boot of slave owners in the pre-civil war period. Folk tales have always been a way to pass on knowledge and a way to deal with and overcome difficult situations and these stories are parables in the most traditional sense. I have never heard anyone consider that Walt Disney may have produced “Song of The South” as a protest against Segregation. Social change was in the wind and rapidly coming and the Release by Walt Disney and Howard Hughes and RKO Pictures on November 12th 1946 of “Song of The South” cannot be coincidental as only a year and a half would pass before President Harry S. Truman on July 31, 1948 desegregated the military. I remember seeing “Song of the South” as a child and found it to be a wonderfully delightful animated feature film. As an adult and with what I can remember about the movie I am now inclined to believe that Walt Disney was advocating social change and in reality actually poking fun at racism but especially southern racist, he himself having grown up in the segregated southern racist city of Kansas City Missouri, living in what is considered today part of the Black Community and in Mr. Disney’s day what may have been considered part of a mixed race area of Kansas City and/or at the very least the Black Community. Walt Disney grew up at 3028 Bellefontaine about six blocks East and nine blocks South or about a mile and one- half from the home field of the World Famous Kansas City Monarch’s baseball team from 1923-1950 and the pride of the Baseball Negro League the stadium being located at 20th and Prospect Ave the heart of the Black Community. Given the place that Mr. Disney grew up he must have had a lot of exposure to the black community and he must have been socially conscious and keenly aware of the social injustice associated with Kansas City and its segregationist policies and the inequality of equal rights between blacks and whites.
It make me sad to think that the film vaults remain closed to probably one of the first socially conscious anti-segregation films made at a time that preceded President Truman’s Desegregation Policy change directed at the Military and Jackie Robinson’s career in Baseball . It preceded “Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education”, it preceded “Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat on the bus, it preceded the sit-ins at the crown room at Emery Bird Thayer yet it somehow has been viewed as a film that is politically incorrect. I disagree. The Film is a protest against racism, if you can get past the film setting and get to the stories within the story.
Correct me if I am wrong but did not Uncle Remus tell stories that were based on the black experience and weren’t they parables much as Aesop’s fables are parables, don’t they have a moral lesson, don’t they have an African tradition and origin. If in fact they were stories told by a black man then it follows that the stories are also told from the black man’s perspective and if they are truly coming out of the black experience, tradition, and history then surely they must have been told in the frame of mind that the hero or protagonist was black and if the hero was black than the antagonist must have been white because white was the only antagonist the slave knew. With that in mind if we examine the characters of the stories then our Protagonist Br’er Rabbit is our hero and I believe Uncle Remus’s alter-ego, while Br’er Fox and Br’er Bear were the antagonist of the stories. I remember Uncle Remus as a wise old sage and his stories captivating using humor, wit, and irony weaved into his stories to make a point and maybe even poking fun at whitey and with whitey being to self-absorbed, egocentric, myopic, and the one stupid enough to never get the joke.

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There are some things you can do to get it relaesed by Disney.

1) Add your name to the Song of the South Petition.

http://www.petitiononline.com/sots1946/petition.html

2) Send a request to Disney's Movie Finder. Let them know that you want Song of the South to be released on VHS and DVD.
http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/moviefinder/request/requestvideo.html?itemid=Song Of The South&itemname=Song_Of_The_South_-_Theatrical_Release

You also have the option of being notified when it becomes available on VHS and/or DVD. (Please note: this web form is old and may not be working much longer.) I would also encourage you to call Buena Vista Home Entertainment at (800) 723-4763.

3) Nominate Song of the South to be added to the National Film Registry. Send an email to [email protected] nominating Song of the South. Be sure to include why you feel that the film is significant culturally, historically, or aesthetically. Alternately, you can send your nomination by mail.

4) Spread the word. This is one of the most important steps you can take. Tell family and friends about our efforts to get Disney to release this film to the American public! You may be surprised at how many people don't know about this historic movie. And I think that's exactly what Disney wants...

Until then, watch it on youtube.com I just got finished doing that like an hour ago- it is not as good, but I am a crazy fan I guess.

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So don't watch it. Nobody's twisting your arm.

Doesn't look like your changing any minds around here either.

doh...

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IMDb sends me an email to my regular email. I can read that emaul from my smartphone. Therefore when someone emails me, including emails from IMDb, I see them.
So what. I could care less. I'm not emailing you. The imdb is. That's your deal, not mine. You don't like it, go whine to them.

I actually didn't expect any kind of answer from you for a few months. If ever.

Did your troll rotted brain understand it? Were you able to stop your jollies long enough to read? Now troller go back to your childish, immature ways.
Well you're the one that's so smart. Put me on your ignore list.

Or don't ya know how...
Also, smart people with IQs above 50 realize films like SOTS and BOAN for what they are...old racist trash that exploited and contributed to the oppression of a group of people.
Whaaaaa....whaaaa....mommieeee......mommieeeeee.....

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So it doesn't surprise me that someone with your lack of intelligence would so desperately seeks them out to watch.
Gee, nothing "desperate" about it at all. It's just few mouse-clicks away. You should read the reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/Song-South-Ruth-Warrick/dp/B00003CX5G/ref=sr_1_7 ?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1275946430&sr=1-7

Gee, looks like about 450 people there don't agree with you. There's actually a waiting list over there. I guess they're all "desperate" too, huh...

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Sounds more like you're the desperate one, desperately ready to suppress this film. Isn't that right? Hmmm?

You are not smart enough to know any better about what the films represent.
I got this thing about control freaks who go around telling other people what they can or can't watch. That's primo with me. Not some politically-correct horsesh!t you wanna hide behind.

Now, why haven't you put me on your ignore list yet? You're the one that's supposed to be so smart. Aren't you so smart? No?

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The fact is you can't put me on your ignore list because you don't know how to. I guess you're just not as smart as you make yourself out to be. Hmmm?

And I frankly don't care if it insults the politically-correct. Maybe they deserve to be insulted every once in awhile. If you can't handle that then too bad. Tough.

Now, I await your hypocritical response...

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Ignore is very simple to do, the button is right there.
Well go ahead. Do it. You've been saying that for the last 6 posts now.

Betcha can't...

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I never said they were going to release it. And no, you didn't call Disney so stop lying.

Oh and in case you didn't know, Song Of The South is sold in the whole rest of the world. Unlike the United States, they're not willing to kiss politically-correct_ass

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Disney discontinued the sale of SOTS everywhere in the world in December of 2001. New VHS copies can still be found, but Disney is no longer producing the title.

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Mine has Japanese script on the outside of the box. From what I understand, Japanese copyright only lasts about 50 years and then it goes into the public domain. It could have come from a laserdisc master and doesn't look bad at all.

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Ya know for somebody who said they were gonna put me on their ignore list, you sure don't follow through on what you say, now do you.

You're all phony, poonya0. You're not even a person of your word, which makes you even more un-credible than you already are.

Now you gonna do another silly rap for us? Or are you gonna get lost?

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poonya0, you're not fooling anyone. If you really didn't like what I had to say, you would've been gone a long time ago. But you really do like me. Or you're just too dumb to know how to use the ignore button. So which it?

I like you because I have you pwned. As soon as I snap my fingers, poonya0 appears with her tongue hanging out, ready to bark for her master Fester.

Now c'mon. Do a widdle rap for me. Keep me entertained. Don't forget the grunts and beats now...

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Bark little doggie.

woof woof!

Your master Fester awaits.... Otherwise no Alpo for my b!tch tonight...

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What nuts? I don't think you have any. But you'd like some. I know that.

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But you don't have any balls, poonya0. I don't know why you flatter yourself. You're either girl or your a girlyman who's had whatever it was down there, cut off.

Now which is it? While I tie up your phone some more.

I hope you got a generous phone plan, because I plan on sticking around for awhile.

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No, I'm not swinging at all. Both my feet are on the ground.

Still confused about yourself, huh... Did you ask Michael Vick if he has them? Maybe he fed them to the dogs. Ya know, one apiece.

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Now, after telling me you were gonna ignore me a whole bunch of times and not following through, that tells me you're some kind of f@ggot. The kind with fake tits and an Adam's apple.

lol...

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poonya0 says "keep dick slappin' muh face, bruh..."

LOL...

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I'm not going away, so....

Gotta keep that phone of yours busy.

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1. I will keep it up. No doubt. I guess you'll just have to cry to the mods in order to stop me, huh...

2. Because you're an RSS phone idiot, that's why... Glued to my every next response. Like I said, when I say jump, you will jump. Your master fester commands you.

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Sounds like poonya0 is running out of things to say.

Had enough, boy?

lol....

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Taking a breather, poonya0? Gone to see massa?

You musta got all tuckered out there, boy...

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It's not racist.I doubt the people that say so have even seen it. Famliy Guy is racist and so is South Park but I don't hear a huge outcry over those shows.

I have a documentary called Walt : The Man Behind the Myth. In it there's a black man that worked for Walt. I don't remember this guy's name, but anyway he's talking about how Spike Lee says that Disney was racsit. This man looks right at the camera and says "Spike, I knew Walt , you didn't."

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You said you had PAL what ever European version and I could care less.
I dunno. PAL, NTSC. It's probably a bootleg, but it looks pretty good anyway.
No I'm not a liar, I did call Disney Movie Club, if you re-read above instead of trolling and getting your jollies, because anyone can call them.
So what. Let's say you're telling the truth for a moment. Why would you bother to do that? For me?
Oh and in case you didn't know Song Of The South is NOT LEGALLY sold anywhere in the world. The website below has quite a few frequently asked Q/As and one of them is addressed saying that the movie was withdrawn worldwide in 2001. You may have bought some old copy or something, but if it says it is produced after 2001, then it is illegal.
What that means is you can't suppress it.

Maybe you should let Disney legally release it, instead. That way we won't have to buy bootlegs.

Hmmm?
http://www.songofthesouth.net/faq/index.html
Well you should work to get that "racist" website banned, now shouldn't you. To think that some "evil" people actually went to the trouble to like this film enough to create a detailed website like that. For shame.

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Now you gonna go back to your PC hole, control freak? Or you like me a lot and can't bring yourself to ignore me?

Right?

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I'm afraid you got it all wrong, dear. It's you that continually threatens to put me on the ignore list, not me.

I own you. Lock stock & two smoking barrels.

And I know you'll be back tomorrow. Deep down, you really like me too much.

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Take this conversation somewhere else. It's now just personal and has nothing to do with the topic of which I'm trying to follow. It's a waste of time for everyone but you two.

And there's no need to respond with, "But they're the one not stopping... blah, blah, blah." BOTH of you just stop. Thanks.

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I'm not your dear, if you are gay that is your own business bruh, but take it elsewhere.
lol...

You mean you're not a girl? Well you certainly act like one. You're not one of those it's that can't make up it's mind, are you?

(more)
As far as your daily smack down, you have a sadist side that likes abuse, that is why you keep coming back for your online ass whooping. You named the wrong film, you like to be abused like Tyler Durden on FightClub.
Funny but I don't feel beat down. I'm actually having a lot of fun stringing you along at your expense. You getting all hysterical about this film and all.
Don't you think it's actually pathetic that you drudged up this debate from a year ago?
Not at all. Like I said, I didn't expect an answer from you for quite a long time, but since you're now my pet dog, ready to bark when master Fester commands you, I'm kinda glad I did.

Now get on knees and bark for your master. Go-wan. Go woof woof! for your master.

Don't you want to share the dog house with Michael Vick?

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Aww, wot's wrong girlyman? No bone to eat tonight? Tying up your phone? Can't take any calls?

You're my creepy widdle b!tch and you know it. You're pwned.

Now if you good widdle doggie, I'll have Michael Vick standing by with the pooper-scooper waiting to clean up after your azz. After all, that's all he's good for.

Wouldn't you like that? Clean doggie?

BWHAW HAW HAW HAW HAW...

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Michael Vick is a piece of dog *beep* and you know that.

And you know what I'm talking *beep* Unless you really are a girl pretending to be butch dyke or something.

So, am I tying up all the bandwidth on your telephone? I hope so. No more phone sex for you.

BWHAW HAW HAW HAW...

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Vick is not a piece of anything, but you are a waste of flesh.
Well that's funny coming from a useless sack of sh!t like you.

But no matter. Last I heard, Vick went went back to his gold-plated dog cage. Maybe you'll get one someday.
I see you like swinging from my nuts though, keep coming back.
There ya go again. Pretending to be a man.

With all your confusion and all, you really should do something about that. Like uh...maybe shoot yourself?

lol...

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Funny how you like Song of the South and dislike Michael Vick. Now I see what's going on and who I'm dealing with. So do you wear a white sheet or a red one?
Actually I keep a multi-colored one and it's clean. Not at all sh!t_stained like yours probably is. You are toilet-trained, I hope.
Bruh, even if I had my shyt cut off I'd still be twice the man you are.
Well Bruh (or Siz) did the Dr. make a clean cut? Or was he drunk and it jags?

lol...
This is evident by the little game you are playing on here and getting your jollies doing.
Hey, it's been awhile since I had someone so easily pwned and you're it. Congratulations.

Now you be sure to stay by your phone, boy. Or is it now "girl"...

more lol...

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Oh well. You're even sadder responding to me when you said you wouldn't.

Now you go run along now, girlyman... 'Cause I'm not going away any time soon.

Oh and the tar baby says yo....

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Must be my dick slapping you in the face...

lol...

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Aww wot's wrong, poonya0?

Too quiet out there?

Looking for attention?

Poor widdle girl...

lol...

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Well you wanted my attention, girlyman. Now you got it. Ya wouldn't be back here if ya didn't.

I know you missed Aunt Fester. lol...

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It's the truth. This movie isn't even a little bit racist.

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