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Mary Merideth + Lady Hollaway - Lesbians?


The word itself could NEVER have been uttered in any movie of the time but
there is no doubt that Hollaway is completely captivated by Mary. Just look
at the size of the portrait she keeps in her study. Also, Mary is clearly the
Evil one of the house - any "perversion" by the standards of that time would've
been seen has the mark of evil character. I'm not down on diversity, I just felt
this was an unspoken theme of the relationship between Lady Hollaway and Mary
that was pretty obviously unheathly as seen by the movie. Thoughts?

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You wish...
Where did you get this, you stupid git?

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Calm your bosom, beaverkisser, but I also happen to believe that those two women were possibly...um...'beaverkissers'.

Mary's sexuality could definitely explain not only her lack of interest in procreating with her husband but also her uncanny ability to control the heart and will of the particularly non-effeminate Holloway (who, unless you're clueless, is completely infatuated by the memory of Mrs. Meredith). You should also reflect on Holloway's spoken recollection of her and Mary's relationship, where she says something about how they were "more than friends" but practical soul-mates who wanted conquer the world hand-in-hand; that sounds pretty romantic, if you ask me.

It's also interesting that even when an old film is brave enough to have such provocative subtext, it also elicits a certain homophobic attitude. Like, the fact that the good spirit also happens to be the natural-mother of Stella is portrayed in a way that somehow suggests that Mary's alternative lifestyle was typical of a homicidal maniac. Furthermore, the idea that a heartbroken lesbian like Holloway would be a bitter enough human-being to drive a sick woman to her death (despite said woman having saved the life of a child) also suggests that the story thinks of homosexuals as being rotten human-beings. Pretty unfortunate, but many films of this time had its gay characters adopt evil or antagonistic aspects.

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Mary Meredith and Miss Hollaway had some kind of affair going on. Unknown if it was consummated but certainly an 'emotional' affair. Since they were upper class, prolly they did consummate the affair, since that kind of thing happened with the upper classes. (Eleanor Roosevelt and Virginia Wolf were upper class.)

Early on, my wife picked up a lesbian vibe from Miss Holloway.

I don't see their affair as evil or perverse, just like I don't see Meredith's affair with Carmel as perverse. Just the stuff of drama.

But Mary Meredith did commit an evil act, trying to through Stella off the cliff.

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"Prolly"...

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You're right...

Should be 'def.'

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Just wondering what "prolly" is...

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Just wondering what "prolly" is...


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I love it when a verbally abusive troll like you tries to lecture someone on proper internet conduct.

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Cool.

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Seems like there was a lesbian affair going on. Of course it wasn't spoken of in those days.

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The Production Code affecting films in the 1940s meant that homosexuality, extramarital affairs, and out-of-wedlock births were referred to cryptically in The Uninvited to meet the imperatives of censorship. Viewers learn that Mary “feared and refused motherhood,” and is therefore blamed for her husband’s affair with Carmel. Mary, Carmel, and Miss Holloway are all punished for their respective sexual transgressions – asexuality, heterosexual promiscuity, and lesbianism – with death or, in Miss Holloway’s case, a mental breakdown. The character of Miss Holloway was recognized as a lesbian by the Legion of Decency, whose (male) leaders complained to Paramount executives about the scenes in which she speaks romantically to Mary’s portrait. Lesbian audiences in the 1940s also grasped the inferences and characterizations in The Uninvited, and film scholars note that it became a cult hit with lesbian communities in wartime America. Mary is depicted as asexual or possibly a lesbian by being non-maternal and too close to Miss Holloway, and the novel describes her as “unnatural,” tying in with discourses about motherhood and gender essentialism. Later film scholars have seen even more lesbian connotations, suggesting that the mother-daughter trope in the film can be a cover for lesbianism, since Stella has been in love with another woman, Mary, her whole life, much to Rick’s frustration.
http://www.btchflcks.com/2013/01/classic-literature-film-adaptations-w eek-the-uninvited-1944-and-dorothy-macardles-feminism.html
Miss Holloway, an “unfeminine” single woman and nurse who had been infatuated with her friend Mary and still worships her memory, is significant as a lesbian character in the days of the Production Code. Her name recalls London’s Holloway Prison, where suffragists were incarcerated earlier in the century, and the convalescent home she operates is a prison of sorts where female patients lose agency and autonomy. While Miss Holloway’s narrative seeks to contrast Mary’s moral perfection with Carmel’s depravity, the Fitzgeralds are so put off by this stereotypical sinister lesbian that they begin to think that things were not all that they seemed. The character of Miss Holloway shows The Uninvited’s indebtedness to Daphne du Maurier’s popular Gothic novel, Rebecca (1938; released as a film in 1940), as she bears a strong resemblance to Mrs. Danvers. Both are portrayed as sinister lesbians who idolize the dead woman at the center of the mystery and play a key role in reinforcing her iconization.



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I usually dismiss the "gay subtext" thread that pops up for nearly every movie as nonsense, but in this case it is clearly valid. At the least, Miss Holloway was obsessively in love with Mary, and a sexual relationship between them is plausible.

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