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☝️ Pop vs. Box 👇 '69 - '12

posted 2 years ago by Redsfan001 (6006)
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Card 49

Key -

B - box office rank for year
P - current popular rank for year
🎖️ - first place rank
🗽 - most votes for year
🥜 - 3rd place popular loser for year
🤔 - most obscure

(#/142) - rank amongst 142 actors

69 Me, Natalie - no data
71 The Panic in Needle Park - nd
72 The Godfather 🎖️🎖️🗽 B1 P1
73 Scarecrow B18 P48
73 Serpico B10 P11
74 The Godfather PII 🎖️🗽 B6 P1
75 Dog Day Afternoon B4 P7
77 Bobby Deerfield B36 P89
79 ...And Justice for All B25 P36
80 Crusing B32 P21
82 Author! Author! B56 P117
83 Scarface B38 P2
85 Revolution B171 P92
89 Sea of Love B22 P72
90 The Local Stigmatic - no data
90 Dick Tracy B8 P23
90 The Godfather PIII B17 P7
91 Frankie and Johnny B57 P83
92 Glengarry Glen Ross B92 P32
92 Scent of a Woman B19 P8
93 Carlito's Way B41 P29
95 Two Bits - no data
95 Heat B25 P3
96 City Hall B80 P142
97 Donnie Brasco B53 P34
97 The Devil's Advocate B29 P9
99 The Insider B56 P31
99 Any Given Sunday B78 P69
00 Chinese Coffee - no data
02 Insomnia B41 P41
02 S1m0ne B148 P152
03 People I Know - no data
03 The Recruit 🥜 B55 P129
03 Gigli B154 P124
04 The Merchant of Venice B171 P160
05 Two For the Money B106 P156
07 88 Minutes - no data
07 Ocean's 13 B26 P46
08 Righteous Kill B71 P148
11 The Son of No One - no data
11 Jack and Jill B49 P118
12 Stand Up Guys 🤔 B154 P164

Movies scored - 34
Box sum - 1948
Pop sum - 2305

Box avg rank - 57.29
Pop avg rank - 67.79

BA-PA = -10.50

Box top 20 - 🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷
Pop top 20 - 🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷

Best box - The Godfather (1)
Worst box - Revolution (171),The Merchant of Venice (171)
Best pop - The Godfather (1), The Godfather PII (1)
Worst pop - Stand Up Guys (164)

Pop gainer - Revolution (+79)
Pop loser - Righteous Kill (-77)

Pop vs. Box Awards

🎖️🎖️🎖️
🗽🗽
🥜

It is natural for popular rankings to be higher due to the influx of art house, international and straight to video releases.

Scoring b-p

10+ = excellent
9 to -9 = good
-10 to -29 = avg
-30 to -49 = poor
-50 and below = very poor

Example

Dick Tracy B8 P23 = -15(avg)

Tally

Excellent (10pts each) = 13
Good (5pts each) = 7
Average (0pts each) = 5
Poor (-5pts each) = 1
Very poor (-10pts each) = 8
Pop top 20 bonus (5pts each) = 9

+130+35-5-80+45

Mr. Pacino's pop/box library score

125 (29/142)

[–] ecarle (14979) 2 years ago

Is something wrong with this one, The Godfather at number 21 for 1972? Box office? Wasnt it Numner one?

[–] Redsfan001 (6006) 2 years ago

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[–] Redsfan001 (6006) 2 years ago

Thank you, it was #2 correcting now.

[–] ecarle (14979) 2 years ago

I like all of your posts for all stars so I'll stop here with any further quibbling, but:

The Godfather was Number Two for 1972? I thought it was Number One -- the highest grossing movie ever for a few years til Jaws beat that...and then Star Wars beat THAT.

Therefore...what WAS Number One for 1972, might I ask?

[–] Redsfan001 (6006) 2 years ago

The Poseidon Adventure starring Gene Hackman, Ernest Borgnine, Shelly Winters

I use The Numbers website for the default box data. IMDB includes re-releases in it's calculations, which is why The Godfather is #1 on that site. IMDB will usually have more data on box rankings so prior to 1995 I will use it if the movie cannot be found on The Numbers.

[–] ecarle (14979) 2 years ago

Excellent and...makes sense.

I see these changes from time to time.

The "production sequel" to The Poseidon Adventure -- The Towering Inferno of 1974 with the same producer(Irwin Allen) and even bigger stars(McQueen, Newman, Dunaway, and Holden) was listed as Number One for 1974 for many years(I thought) but...has been replaced(I think?) by Blazing Saddles.

Makes sense.

[–] Redsfan001 (6006) a year ago

Cars updated 5/17/23

The Numbers now has The Godfather (72) as #1 box and has been so changed. (**The website notes that the box office totals prior to 1977 could be from 2 or more years after initial release)

[–] Redsfan001 (6006) 9 days ago

Card updated 4/18/22