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Why does the idea of more babies make liberals sad?

posted 2 years ago by kuatorises (7467)
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I saw Renee Young (former wrestling announce) say she was "heartbroken" on Twitter. I saw several other women in her industry say something similar.

I saw many women on Facebook - friends or friends of friends - say they "have been crying all day".

Biden called it a "solemn day". A "sad day". Many politicians echoed the same sentiments.

This is how these people describe innocent life getting a chance. It makes them sad and angry. Keelai or some other liberal loon is bound to reply "It's not a person" or some other ridiculous argument. Is that so?

https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
https://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latest-news/pregnant-woman-killed-in-double-murder-in-norwood-st-james/
https://wreg.com/news/local/man-charged-with-double-murder-after-killing-pregnant-woman-police-say/

The language liberals use borders on cult-like propaganda. "Reproductive rights", "my body, my choice", "anti-choice" for those who disagree. "You're not a woman" (therefor you don't get to have an opinion) is literally a logical fallacy.

Fuck your body. No one cares about your body, which is evident by the fact there are people willing to ban abortion. People care about the innocent life not being given that choice you care so much about. Or the father's you gleefully deny not only rights, but so much as an opinion; unless it agrees with you.

Now, don't get me wrong. I think abortion should be legal. I think men deserve equal rights/say in the process, but abortion is a necessary and unfortunate evil. If no one wants a child, they should not be forced to have one. And enough kids already aren't adopted. It' an act of mercy in a way.

Oh, and anyone who is against abortion in cases of rape or incest is a piece of shit.

[–] CraigC (6982) 2 years ago

"Now, don't get me wrong. I think abortion should be legal. I think men deserve equal rights/say in the process, but abortion is a necessary and unfortunate evil. If no one wants a child, they should not be forced to have one. And enough kids already aren't adopted. It' an act of mercy in a way."

I agree, or at least I used to. In recent years I've begun to question it. At the very least it should be up to the states. It should've NEVER been considered a "right". So I also fully agree with the decision to strike down Roe v. Wade.

What has turned me against it is the way it's packaged and presented to the American people. As a women's rights issue. As if the only thing that matters is a woman's right to physical autonomy. It's argued as if there is not another human life hanging in the balance and that is at the very least intellectually dishonest. Had it not been "marketed" this way, there's no way in hell that late term abortions would've EVER been legal. The fact that people would use this legal loophole, that it's a fetus with no rights before it's born and only a human with rights after it's born, to kill the baby in the womb by inserting a tube in its head and sucking out the brains and then extracting the dead baby, is purely, absolutely evil.

That said, it should be up to the states. They can choose to ban it outright or limit it however they see fit. My state will probably ban it and that's fine with me. Abortions done to save the mother or in cases of rape or incest should always be allowed.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 2 years ago

Why? What's the difference between state or federal government deciding it? There's no logic to that Libertarian-type mindset. This has nothing to do with whether you believe in the act or not.