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I watched it last night. Trump was still referenced here.


I made it to theaters last night to see the movie and I have some thoughts. Yes it was a Road Trip Movie focused on a free press but I saw subtle references to Trump. The President was in his Third Term and he abolished the FBI. Abolishing the FBI has been a talking point of the right mostly because they aren't a law enforcement agency anymore and are used mostly to hunt down American Citizens who are deemed political enemies of the Deep State. It may have made those references to Trump but it's Biden who would use the American Military to attack American Citizens. Seeing the atrocities of the Military in this movie made me think of what we are currently living under with the Biden Regime. By the time we go to the end with Western Forces attack on DC it really got me thinking this is ANTIFA's wet dream come to life and it was pretty sick to see. You may think you want war in America but I thought the movie did a good job examining the victims of such a conflict. Be careful what you wish for you Antifa Bedwetting Losers it wouldn't be pretty if your Larping played out in real life. Overall the movie dystopian future was horrific to see and this is one of those movies I will probably watch again but I would have to be in a really foul mood to sit through. If a 4k disc is released it would be demo worthy.

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I'll add:

Trump already mentioned he wants the U.S. Military used against citizens and already did it during his term.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-barr-used-loophole-deploy-national-guard-u-s-cities-ncna1236034

Furthermore, he is against freedom of the press which is similar to the movie's president who had banned journalists from DC and has them shot on sight.

Trump already attempted to remain in office after he lost when he incited the Jan. 6 violence.

Now, I'll admit that the movie president isn't really Trump according to the writer/director. But, he represents a Fascist president aka: authoritarian leader. Trump is similar to the movie president because he is an authoritarian, also. Authoritarians/ fascists/strongmen/dictators share similar characteristics and use the same playbook to attain and keep power. The outcome is usually tragic for citizens.

This book gives details about different authoritarian leaders including Trump. It's very informative and chilling. When you know history, you can recognize the warning signals and impending danger.

"Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present" by Ruth Ben-Ghiat

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Trump needs to declare martial law for the likes of you.

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The mask slips off. (If it was ever on to begin with.)

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you prefer a weak president like biden huh?

one who lets 3 world migrants come in mass and commit crimes against americans, while draining taxpayer money as well?

as a european it saddens me to see how stupid some americans are, like you for instance.

luckly DT will win in nov.

FU and your low iQ :-)

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LOL you really believe all shown on Breitbart and Fox, right? Where they talk about a Biden regime and pushing all news done by migrants, while all the crimes done by "real americans" are kept low. And Putin is also a good guy, just misunderstood, as he just want to beat Nazis.

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Breitbart and Fox

it's only you that watch that.

i am in europe, don't even know what bart is.

but you do. you are obsessed.
you have fucking TDS LOL

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Ahh, sorry, then it is just RT or one of the Murdoch press. Or do you get the "real news" only from Telegram?

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once again spewing off about some shows i don't watch but you do appently.

leftwingers always project their true feelings onto others.

propaganda is flowing from the left.... and they call it news.

LOL....... you truly have low IQ over there.

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Ah , classic rightwinger response #3

-Libturds control everything
-False Flag
-Fake News, MSM propaganda
-What about the other guy
-TDS
-We were only joking, it was satire

... and yet the people yelling this never explain where it is they actually get their information whilst casually dismissing any and all sources as lies.

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You watch too much propaganda.

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you are the one that does that.

i am in europe. i can't watch american channels.

you libs are fucking brainwashed by your media . and you have very low IQ

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"you libs"

You just revealed your own stupidity, brainwashing and susceptibility to propaganda.

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No, he didn't. You're a lib troll and talking to you like that was completely reasonable.

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"lib troll"

A dimwitted fool defending another dimwitted fool.

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Keelai. You're clearly a lib troll. Denying it is silly. Being offended by it being mentioned is retarded.

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A lib troll, or braindead alt right wannabe thugs? Decisions, decisions...

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"Brain dead"? "wannabe thug"?

Keelai is a lib troll. Nothing wrong with pointing that out.

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Keelai is pushing back on low IQ right wing morons who live in this ridiculous joke of a forum. Nothing wrong with that.

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Sooo, you're just here to insult people? ANd you think other people are the problem.

Got it.

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what good has joe done for the average American since he took over?

because the list of shit he pulled is long AF

migrants flooding you, ukraine getting billions of tax dollars....price on everything soaring, etc etc

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Keelai can't do shit...... why? because deep down she know we are correct and she is wrong.

americans who vote for biden and his gang are dumb as fuck, or maybe they just hate america and want it to perish.

like the turds in Antifa

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do you prefer "you people"

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I find it bizzare how people say: "Wow this is literally Trump :(" instead of asking "Why does Trump seem like a dictator?"

It's ridiculous because "moderates" mentally can't accept that the guy essentially wants a dictatorship.

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Beat me to it.

The problem is that the vast majority of Trump voters are ignorant of history. Guys like the President in this movie have existed throughout history.

Trump just happens to share a lot of characteristics with him.

Those of us that know history are genuinely concerned about Trump because we know what leaders like him do or want to do.

It’s like the saying goes: “Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.”

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Bingo!

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Trump has already been President and was nothing like this bullshit fantasy ‘dictator’ that you morons like to pretend, meanwhile you’ll support Dems who spit out braindead deep-state puppets like Biden who have laid waste to the country 🤦🏻‍♂️

You’re insane.

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I don't like either Trump or Biden, and they are both way too old to be president. But Biden (and nearly every other politician in America, from either party) is nowhere near as unfit as Trump is. It's embarrassing that idiot voters ever let him anywhere near the Oval Office.

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Nonsense. Trump is in great shape mentally and physically (and was a demonstrably excellent President with great results domestically and internationally) while Biden is a walking carcass who can barely speak let alone think.

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This is genuinely absurd. Neither of them suggest they're with it at all. Trump frequently forgets things in speeches, and produces incomprehensible word salads. His daily rants on Truth Social and midnight tweeting (when he used twitter) suggest he really isn't in a healthy place at all.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/2/9/2222459/-Here-are-9-times-Donald-Trump-forgot-stuff

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Utter bullshit. There’s no equivalence between braindead carcass Biden and astonishingly with-it Trump, added to which Trump has proven himself to be an excellent President with exceptional domestic and foreign results, while a Biden has been an unmitigated disaster for Americans and the wider world.

Once again you reveal yourself to be a lying sack of shit in service to the evil regime.

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"astonishingly with-it Trump". Despite all the word salad speeches, memory lapses and poor pronounications that were present in his administration.

>Once again you reveal yourself to be a lying sack of shit in service to the evil regime.

Opposing Trump in any capacity consitutes being a "lying sack of shit in service to the evil regime"? Should no-one ever criticise Trump about anything ever? Do you even think people should be allowed to criticise Trump?

You are clearly in a personality cult.

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Oops, you dumped a load of straw-questions again there, you should know by now that those can go straight back up your ass, along with the rest of your lame and transparent sophistry. Twat.

Trump’s communication is entirely deliberate and won him the presidency, it’s always funny to see morons criticise what is a demonstrably winning tactic.

Conversely, Biden is a vapid puppet who cannot speak properly because he has dementia. It’s humiliating for the regime, and it’s embarrassing watching you try to defend it or equate Trump to Biden.

Now, show everyone what a regime bitch looks like, bend over for the regime again as you type another mindless and desperate defence of them…

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>Oops, you dumped a load of straw-questions again there, you should know by now that those can go straight back up your ass, along with the rest of your lame and transparent sophistry. Twat.

I don't give a fuck what you do. I'll do what I like, ask what I like to anyone on here. I don't answer to fuckfaces such as yourself.

>Trump’s communication is entirely deliberate and won him the presidency, it’s always funny to see morons criticise what is a demonstrably winning tactic.

"I was just pretending to be a moron" vibes. And the dysfunctional electoral college won Trump the presidency at a deficit of 3 million votes with tiny margins in swing-states. He then lost the follow-up to Biden. So it's not as effective a 'winning tactic' as you portray.

>Conversely, Biden is a vapid puppet who cannot speak properly because he has dementia. It’s humiliating for the regime, and it’s embarrassing watching you try to defend it or equate Trump to Biden.

I don't think EITHER can speak properly. Trump just waffles on aimlessly, losing his train of thought, mixing up words, word salading garbage.

>Now, show everyone what a regime bitch looks like, bend over for the regime again as you type another mindless and desperate defence of them…

Opposing Trump in any capacity consitutes being a "lying sack of shit in service to the evil regime" or "bending over for the regime"? Should no-one ever criticise Trump about anything ever? Do you even think people should be allowed to criticise Trump?

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Perfect, like clockwork.

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Astonishingly with it--you mean like when he suggested using ultraviolet light and bleach "inside the body" to fight Covid?

Trump, like Biden, is too old for the job and has lost some of his cognitive ability. But he was ALWAYS a buffoon, going back to the Eighties. I don't disagree with people who see him as dangerous to democracy, but while they (and you) might see this as shallow, actually the thing I dislike most about him is just how TACKY he is. He has absolutely no taste, and I wish I could remember who said the unwashed masses (or the "poorly educated", as he called them) love him because he is a poor person's idea of what a rich person would be like, gilding every piece of furniture, every bathroom fixture, in sight.

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Astonishingly with it--you mean like when he suggested using ultraviolet light and bleach "inside the body" to fight Covid?

Didn’t happen, MSM lie.

As for your juvenile aesthetic objections to Trump, they’re irrelevant. Serious people care about results, and Trump’s results were exemplary when he was in power, while Biden’s have been atrocious.

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You are claiming the video of him doing exactly that was a deepfake? C'mon.

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No, I’m stating what I stated. Your straw-question is just more bullshit.

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The real bullshit is claiming Trump didn't suggest "using ultraviolet light and bleach 'inside the body' to fight Covid", when we all saw him do it (while Deborah Birx cringed out of her shoes).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfLZOkn0chc

If you don't claim it's a deepfake (and that Birx is lying about how uncomfortable she was: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/birx-trumps-disinfectant-injection-moment-day/story?id=76474960), then you are just desperately denying the obvious truth because you don't want it to be true about your hero. It would be like me denying that Biden is going senile, when he quite obviously is (but I'll still vote for him anyway). Some of us stay in touch with reality even when it might tarnish our chosen political leaders.

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He doesn’t even mention ‘bleach’ in that video you lying sack of shit.

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Oh, whatever, disinfectant. Of which bleach is the most common kind in most households. The point was about whether Trump is a nincompoop who blundered his way through the pandemic. The answer is that he is and did.

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‘Whatever’ - you fucking liar. You’re not digging your way out of this.

You regime bicthes are incapable of being honest. The only way you can criticise Trump is to lie about what he said, it’s fucking disgusting.

Pure evil.

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"The only way you can criticise Trump is to lie about what he said"

Hahahaha, because right, there's nothing Trump actually said that bears criticism. I suppose you either defend all of these, or claim they are false:

"I’m an extremely stable genius. OK?"

"As you know the last eight years, they [Obama administration] borrowed more than it did in the whole history of our country. So they borrowed more than $10 trillion, right? And yet, we picked up $5.2 trillion just in the stock market. Possibly picked up the whole thing in terms of the first nine months, in terms of value. So you could say, in one sense, we’re really increasing values. And maybe in a sense we’re reducing debt." (Narrator: In no sense were they reducing debt.)

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"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."

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I told you, you’re not digging your way out of this.

You fucking lied, you lied about what Trump said so that you could criticise him because you’re an evil sack of shit.

As a result you’ve lost all credibility, and there’s no use trying to salvage your reputation with a load of distractionary text walls. You’re just making it much worse for yourself.

Your only way out of this is to admit you lied, beg for forgiveness, and make a sincere promise to stop lying, and back that up with action. Let’s see if you have the courage to do that…

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I don't need to have the "courage" to say I lied about Trump, because I didn't lie about him. You have yet to demonstrate any "lie". (Using the word "bleach" instead of "disinfectant" is not a lie, because bleach is the most commonly used type of disinfectant.) I have on the other hand shown how delusional you are about the man (I don't know if it's a lie because I think you are just out of touch with reality).

I have acknowledged how deeply flawed Biden is. The majority of other Democratic politicians, and even a few Republicans (like Joe Biden) would be preferable to him in the Oval Office, although he's certainly a better choice than Trump, who is manifestly unfit for office.

But you can't acknowledge any problems with Trump. It's idol worship and truly pathetic.

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You know, I have a background in Radiation Therapy.

Trump's words sounds an awful lot like a layperson who heard about, but really doesn't understand External Beam Radiation and/or Chemotherapy.

It is regular practice to use photons a lot worse than ultraviolet light.

Trump's words were a lot less far from reality than most people would think.

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4 more years pause

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What?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkRXA0c4ahs

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Not watching that, just explain yourself if you want to be understood.

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1 minute video - are you a troll?

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No. Just explain yourself if you want to be understood.

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more like stupid........ low IQ it their problem.

here in europe people hate joe and want DT back

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the vast majority of Trump voters are ignorant of history.


The vast majority of Biden voters can't even spell "history."

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I find it absolutely wild that people think Trump was, is or will be a dictator. There is literally zero evidence for it and people are only repeating this nonsense as they've been brainwashed by the media. The same media that gaslight people into thinking Biden isn't a dictator. Pretty much everything they accuse Trump of doing, Biden is doing. Weakening elections, going after political rivals. It's actually insane.

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-wants to fire everyone that disagrees with him
-refuses to leave office when he lost
-wants to remove all bureaucracy that stops him from doing what he wants
-wants to human trafficking millions of undocumented immigrants without a court case
-things the press is the enemy of the people
-tweeted about suspending the constitution
-literally believes his actions in presidency are above the law

I can go on. What makes you think he doesn't want to be a dictator?

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- No he doesn't
- He didn't lose, it was clearly stolen. I bet you think Biden will easily win when his approval rating is in the toilet lol
- Removing dumb bureaucracy is good
- This one is clearly nonsense that you've made up
- The press is the enemy of the people when they are one sided and refuse to report facts
- Funny how people care about the constitution when it's convenient but other times they think it's outdated...
- So we'll be seeing Obama charged for murder for all those civilians he droned?

Trump just wants to put the US back to how it was. The majority of Americans support him.

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- Did you not remember the revolving door during his administration? Nearly everyone was fired by the end. Even his own vice president was kicked to the side for not supporting his coup attempt.
- I never said Biden would win. Just that Trump lost last time. Even the people that helped him with trying to overturn the election aren't using this argument in court anymore.
- Maybe, but Trump has spoke in favor of removing the entire administrative state. All because they won't let him do whatever he wants.
- What do you think human trafficking is? Forcing people to move without due process is literally human trafficking
- Then make your own. That doesn't mean the idea of having people write whatever they want is wrong. Just that you don't like particularly what they report.
- Whataboutism. I never said the constitution was outdated.
- I never said Obama shouldn't be charged for murder. I just said that Trump is LITERALLY arguing that he is immuned from the law. Do you agree or not?

"Trump just wants to put the US back to how it was."
Can you be more specific? What time period?

"The majority of Americans support him."
How do you know this? Did you interview over 100 million American voters?

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- Trump has made some terrible picks, no doubt. People were fired for a reason
- He clearly won but if you count the votes, you can pick the winner. How do you think they're going to explain so many votes for Biden when most of the country hates him?
- Maybe that's what's needed. The current system clearly isn't working
- Kicking out all the illegals that came into the US illegally is Human trafficking now? looooooool
- Oh come on. We all know the MSM conspire to paint Trump a bad guy
- You people love whataboutism lol. A nice and easy escape from an uncomfortable truth. It was clearly hyperbole out of exasperation. Like Trump would actually do it. Like he even could...
- Of course Trump should be immune from all this BS they're attacking him with. This is 3rd world, banana republic shit
- The time period when laws were being enforced, the US was not starting wars all over the world, when things were better. Ask anyone, Biden's administration has been an utter disaster.
- I didn't need to. The polls do that.

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"Trump should be immune"

No one is above the law! You are supporting authoritarianism.

Trump has already admitted he wants to be a dictator on Day One. His agenda which includes loyalty tests to him for federal workers, U.S. military used against American citizens and forced births are clearly authoritarian. Plenty of Trump’s action during his 2016-20 reign were creeping authoritarianism. National institutions and U.S. values were undermined by him.

In order to recognize authoritarianism, you must be able to define it.

Two excellent books which should be in your library:

"How Democracies Die"
"Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present"

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You're so fucking cooked.

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