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You yourself acknowledge that season 2 is different than season 1, so it goes to reason that the show straying away from that original tone will alienate some viewers. As well, I would argue the ramped up stakes in the second half actually got in the way of a lot of the character arcs promised earlier in the season.
Yes, I do believe they have a sense of what their vision for the show is. Depending on how far it strays from the modest, tightly structured show it was in season 1, I do think people have reason to be worried they'll be disappointed. And while it won't make a difference to talk about it, that's pretty much the whole of discussion forums like this.
I mean, they did say they would want to keep the time frame for each season within the 15 months it took between 1 & 2. That suggests season 3 is likely for a late 2018 or early 2019 release.
You are correct that the intricacies of the season are mapped out on the fly, though it does seem like they already have an endgame in mind and have discussed plans for that with some of those closely involved.
Absolutely. One of the great things about Stranger Things was how it had a different tone from the typical genre franchises that are everywhere today already.
I guess it depends whether you would prefer Stranger Things be more Freak and Geeks with sci-fi/horror elements, or X-Men/Harry Potter set in a mid-west town. I'd much prefer the former, which feels more in spirit with season 1.
I'm curious where the inciting incident is going to come from this time around given how season 2 ended and with things presumably going back to normal for another year. Either way, for my own enjoyment's sake I hope the show doesn't venture too far into the comic-book tone it brushed with in select moments this season.
Yeah I don't think there's much dpubt the 008 storyline will be returning given how it was left. It is interesting as you say how El refrained from mentioning that aspect of her trip. Since they'll be doing another time jump, something will have to happen to unearth that storyline. Now that El's sense of home has been firmly established, I would imagine it would have to involve someone heading to Hawkins. I also feel the status of Brenner could play a role in future events as well, him being a common enemy and all.
Recent comments from the Duffers suggest season 3 may pull back on some of the world building and deal with coming-of-age elements, so I'm not sure if this is something they'll get to right away.
I think for me it's less about whether that curly look is who she ultimately wants to be, but rather that we never got closure on it in a sense. It's like a signifier for a significant chapter in El's saga that she never got to share with some of the people most important to her. And even though I imagine she had a look probably similar to it in the time following the aftermath, we as an audience never got to see it.
As for the punk look, it's fun as the experimental makeover that it is but it doesn't feel right to me tonally in the context of the more serious events (keeping in mind that for me, something resembling a Matrix aesthetic you describe isn't my thing). It'd be like if we had Dustin running around with his snowball 'do in the climax of the show. If the story played out that something happened while he looked like that, I would get why he had it but that wouldn't stop me from thinking it that it takes something away from the moment just a little bit.
Hard to tell if they're not just being a bit facetious about in hindsight though, or if teasing isn't just a part of how their working relationship goes. I would hope if there was a legitimate concern, that would be a conversation Sadie and her parents would have had at the time.
One only needs to look at the evolution Millie Bobby Brown has gone through in describing her on-screen kisses to see there may be nothing to this.
That extra month and a half they spent on the X-men episode really took a toll on continuity for his character.
I can only accept it as a flaw in his character based on his past loss. There's a lot of damage still there as far as I'm concerned. A lot of his decisions which are pretty foolish seem to come from that part of him.
That scene between Hopper and El is also very interesting because I don't think Hopper is aware of what El saw at the school. All he knows is she went to see Mike and he didn't see her, so from his point of view nothing has changed other than El defying him. On the other hand, things are very different for El in this moment and it informs us why she is particularly upset. In these moments, she is absolutely devastated thinking she may have lost Mike forever now.
The higher stakes and bigger threats were one of the things that diminished my enjoyment of season 2. I love smaller scale threats. Feels more relatable even when it entails impossible things.
We really should have had a scene of El and Hopper back at the cabin now that everything was resolved. Where was the bookend?
I'm surprised you're not keying on El once again saving the day, when this time it actually was pretty contrived.
It's logical from a continuity standpoint based on the sequence of events that happened before it, but how things should have played out in episode 7 in the first place opens up yet another can of worms.
Although, something as simple as mussing up her hair on the bus gives symbolism that she wants to leave that whatever that world was behind her. The main point is the way they chose to play things out seems like a missed opportunity. El ends up interacting with the core group for zero scenes while sporting her defining look for the bulk of the season. If they couldn't do it for the reunion, we could have had a few moments of El back to normal prior to the snowball.
Yeah, it was fine as a one-off in episode 7, but I was a little disappointed that was the look she had in her reunion with everybody. We got to know El with the curly hair, which is basically her defining look of the season, and then we don't have a single scene between she and Mike with it all season. We could have at least gotten a glimpse of it in the flash forward, maybe a scene between her and Hopper in the cabin informing her of the adoption?
Yes, and Steve emerged as the only character I care about among the three of them.
I would have loved Mike and El taking a trip to see her mother. Makes me sad now that it didn't happen.
Maybe I'm reeling from this so much because I thought the Mike/El bond in season 1 and the first few episodes of season 2 was the most affecting part of the show. Stranger Things was never about the sci-fi threats to me, and I'm starting to think the direction is headed won't be for me.
You may very well enjoy the last part of season 2 then. I felt they betrayed the style they had going in season 1 and first few episodes of season 2.
That was a big problem for me too, probably the biggest given I felt that was a highlight of the early part of the season. El's storyline at the cabin was brilliant and they managed to really make you feel for her in every way. And yet, when they finally reunite Mike is almost immediately taken aside and El goes off to close the gate. Hopper and El's interactions too fall by the wayside, which saddened me just as much. Yes, there was the scene in the truck, but they should have had moments after the chaos.
I never thought the snowball would disappoint me. It was cute scene in itself but I can't help but feel they botched the lead-up to it.