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"I felt terribly sorry for Godfrey also, because I honestly don't believe he really loved her either, I think he was possibly fond of her at the most...
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I'm with you there. I really did not like Lombard's character. It was Gail Patrick who really stood out to me as a love interest. She is also the character that grew and matured the most; I think she really came to understand Godfrey and would've made a better match...if he had to marry one of them. But marrying Irene? That's headed for divorce court. I'd give it a month...IF even. She's just such a child."
I totally agree Justaudrey! If the conventional HW standards wouldn't let Godfrey get together with either Molly or Cornelia (pity, they're so much more likeable), then they should've just left it alone. Irene and Godfrey hooking up at the end is like if Cary Grant and Shirley Temple got together in "The Bachelor and the Bobby-Soxer." Yech.
I don't agree. If any relationship felt like brother-sister, it was Godfrey and Irene. Godfrey was like a much older big brother, who had to shoulder his vengeful, immature, spoiled sister who was holding onto him like her personal toy and refused to let him go.
You might want to carefully my post again. I said I didn't mind Maude's "platitudes." I said I did mind her reckless driving and stealing of cars. I still love Maude (and Susan Vance). But, no one should do that, no matter what their past is. It's dangerous and reckless.
Yeah... For me, an immature twit like Irene forcing her attentions on Godfrey and "winning" him at the end ruins an otherwise great screwball comedy for me.
Funny, there was that discussion at the beginning about the dignity and considerations for other human beings at the beginning when "forgotten men" were being collected like commodities for the scavenger hunt at the beginning of the film. Yet, Godfrey is reduced to a little more than a possession and toy for the immature, vengeful, spoiled brat, Irene, regardless of how Godfrey felt about her.
Shame. I thought their friendship and understanding at the beginning of the film at the scavenger hunt was so lovely... Then, Irene had to start forcing herself on Godfrey and she was no longer considerate of Godfrey or his feelings. Then, there's that weird business of her randomly riding a horse up the front steps of her house, leaving it on the premises, and aggravating her family... Wtf? Def. not good enough for Godfrey.
Too bad Molly and Cornelia didn't end up with Godfrey. They're much more up to Godfrey's level and had much better chemistry. Lombard and Powell would've had much better chemistry if Irene was written to behave a bit more like an adult, as opposed to an irritating, love-struck adolescent with stunted mental and emotional growth.
Nothing wrong with Carole Lombard's performance. She was splendid. But, her character is too immature and selfish to be worthy of the affections of a character like Godfrey.
A shame they didn't remain friends. I loved their friendship at the beginning of the movie. I loved the understanding and connection they had at the beginning before Irene started forcing her attentions on Godfrey, without taking his feelings into consideration.
EDIT: I take it back. Carole Lombard's performance was very grating at times. Especially, that loud cackle that came on whenever the character laughed at Cornelia's expense ("CORNELIA LOST HER PEARLS AND I GOT MINE! CORNELIA LOST HER PEARLS AND I GOT MINE! Ah-HA-HA-HAAA!!!") Good grief.
I have no issues with Irene being "wacky." I actually like that about her. What I do not like about her is constantly forcing her affections on Godfrey and acting entitled to his love when he has no romantic interest in her. Why would he? He's intelligent, sophisticated, honorable, good-natured gentleman.
Irene has her moments, but she is a self-centered "nitwit." At least, Cornelia realizes her flaws. Irene never does, after the scavenger hunt scene. She's too immature and selfish to be worthy of Godfrey's affections. Molly and Cornelia were much better suited for Godfrey and had better chemistry with him as well.
The movie overall is about as least feminist as I ever would've imagined we would see in the current political climate. There is no way that Patty Jenkins is a modern feminist who buys into the current "wave" of feminism, whatever it might be. She isn't anti-men, anti-sex, anti-violence-in-media, anti-glamour, etc.
What the hell? What era are you living in that feminism is "anti-men, anti-sex... anti-glamour"? If anything, "modern" (whatever the hell that means in your case) feminism is the opposite of all that. You're totally out of touch. Get out of whatever cave you're living and get a clue on what you're talking about.
Sex is sex and rape is rape. Why would the 2 be confused with each other? That is ridiculous.
Standing up to one's wife shouldn't involve breaking into her room, chasing her around town in her underwear, and giving her a public spanking. Only a brainless, uncivilized brute would behave that way and that's essentially what McLintock and his potential son in law, Devlin Warren (played by Wayne's real life son oddly enough) were.
Even the daughter, Becky, got spanked and roughed around by the man who is supposed to be her love interest! On top of that, Devlin hands McLintock the brush to hit his wife with. Great way to treat your mother in law. Horrible movie with horrible men!
When Mr. Lindner came by to buy the family out, it was no longer about the insurance money. Money wasn't the issue, the Clybourne neighborhood was willing to pay off the price of the house (more specifically the mortgage, I'm guessing), even give them extra for profit. If money was the main problem, the family would've simply accepted the pay out and moved elsewhere perhaps.
But, money was no longer the issue. The Younger Family's dignity was at stake. Lena even mentions it quite a few times how much the 5 generations struggled as slaves and poverty stricken working class, but they never allowed anyone to "buy" them out. By refusing the neighborhood's bribe, it was Walter's way of telling them that their dignity and pride couldn't be bought.
I disagree. I think Jim Hutton is quite handsome. Even my mom thought so. She actually commented about Jim's good looks before Grant's. xD
I don't disagree about Hutton's "[dweebiness]," but personalyl I thought that was part of the charm that made so funny and likable.
I totally agree! Milo deserved way better! I just hope she'll give a really good guy a chance, considering she fell so hard for an asshole like Jerry.
You're crazy. He was great in this. That tired, sarcastic, cynical, weary performances is legendary and matches in step so well with Gloria's Swanson's over the top, theatrical madness of Norma.
But, even Joe's prideful shell takes a crack at the end. Look at the shot towards the end when Holden turns his back to Nancy Olson and with a bitter sadness exclaims "I like (my arrangement) that way." Vocally he's confident and convincing to Betty, but his face is in a another world that changes a second before he turns back around to face her again. It gives me goosebumps no matter how many times I look at it.
[quote][–] vicky_lc2001-1 2 years ago
I immediately developed a huge crush on him when I saw this film last year. He was also very good in Stalag 17. His acting style is very natural and modern. People always credit Brando but I prefer Holden. Plus he looked hot in that pool scene. [/quote]
Same here! I immediately became entranced by Holden after seeing "Sunset Boulevard." I always loved his voice.
While Brando's performances in "A Streetcar Named Desire" and "On the Waterfront" were phenomenal, his later performances were very hit and miss. Whereas the quality of Holden's performances remained consistent while still doing justice to all his characters throughout his career
You mention a lot of French actresses, which doesn't really make sense. French actresses tend to become more in demand and revered as they get older. Total opposite of Hollywood.
[quote] kikiteka 7 years ago
I love that the "Who was hotter, Moondoggie or Kahuna?" argument rages on 50 years after the movie came out. God bless the internet. I say Kahuna. Moondoggie was cute, Kahuna was sexy. I wanted Gidget to go for Kahuna in that beach hut, despite the age difference. I was terribly disappointed when he sent her home. So close! Oh well.[/quote]
Lol, I love the debate as well. I love both Moondoggie and Kahuna. They're both very sexy- Moondoggie in a boyish way and Kahuna in a mature, manly way.
Thank you so much for this article! It was an interesting read. Terry sounds like he had a very pleasant life on his own terms, which is the least anyone can hope for in their lives.
I hope I can meet some surfers and get into surfing someday. Albeit, I'd have to improve my swimming first, lol!
Lol "bidgets," that is pretty funny! I thought the same thing when I watched the film.
It's interesting to note though that although Sandra Dee looks very tiny, she was actually 5'4" which was considered tall in the 50's. This might account for why the boys didn't look much taller than her in comparison.
Well, there is actually one brief shot of the luau with one guy chasing another girl into a hut. Then the guy comes back out briefly just long enough to grab another girl and pull her into the hut as well, before the camera shifts back to Jeff and Gidget arriving at the luau. Who knows what else went on outside of what the audience was allowed to see, lol.
[i]As for Kahuna, his bird dying helped get the ball rolling for his new path in life. I can't help thinking about what his life became after leaving the life of a surf bum. I'm sure he was raking in the money as an airline pilot, but as he said, he didn't care for all the rules and regulations in the military, so I wonder how long it took him to adjust to living his life by other people's schedules...and was he able to find a woman who "brought out the best" in him like Gidget did? [/i]
Flyboy dying also set up a deep conversation between Kahuna and the Gidget, which revealed a lot about Kahuna's background, including his time in the war and how it affected him. This film had wonderful character development.
It makes me very sad that the rest of the Gidget series got so horribly butchered. It's so odd, considering the film was not only successful, but a cultural phenomenon as well. Even the TV series didn't have much of a chance to flourish after season 1 even though it did find an audience and could've gotten a season 2 instead of unnecessarily moving on to a new series.