In agreement of being prejudicial against Muslims in their community? Even at the orders of the governor, wouldn't there be one policeman, sergeant, captain, lieutenant, hell, the mayor of the city, thinking that this is a horrendous idea?
shareIt's amazing how quickly mob mentality can catch hold. Shouldn't you be asking the same question about Germans in WW2?
shareI wouldn't be asking that question about Germans in WW2, it would be about the Nazis specifically, and even then, you could consider the times and the fact that in a military group, you are more likely to follow orders even if you disagree, because lives are at stake, but we are talking about a police force in the United States, in modern times, a police force made up of people, people from the community, who have friends who are Muslims, who could be Muslims themselves.
shareI was actually thinking this episode was a bit exaggerated. I was young during 9/11 but I *think* the next day was relatively normal, unless I'm completely missing something? Like there were no riots or shut downs or anything. I realize the Capitol is wayy bigger, but the Pentagon was also hit and presumably the government *could have* been under attack. So idk.
shareNo riots or protests but a lot of threats, vandalism, fake bombs and harassment. Other than that, it was eerily quiet, surreal.
shareYeah, for me it was relatively normal, living two thousand miles away from where the attacks happened. The weirdest thing was the grounding of all air traffic: I never knew how loud it was until it stopped.
But that was different, to be fair. Yes, we'd been attacked and lost 3000 people and it was scary and horrific. But we hadn't lost the President and Veep, the whole SCOTUS, most of Congress, etc. There was still a government in place, just one dealing with a massive crisis.
It's amazing how quickly mob mentality can catch hold. Shouldn't you be asking the same question about Germans in WW2?You clearly don't know your history. The Nazi's systematically over YEARS put their people in place and purged those who objected. It didn't happen overnight. share
Consider the "Palmer Raids" of 1919-1920 or the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II.
shareNeither of those comparisons seem apt. Both were over-reactions by law enforcement that curtailed civil liberties. But both were in response to a credible, existential geopolitical threat.
ISIS has done terrible things & would love to wipe us off the face of the earth. But I'm sorry, they're not the least bit credible as a military force. They're not even a real state.
I think a better analogy is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Executive_Order_44
No they are all drooling Republican racists who can't wait to beat innocent young muslim boys to death!
shareThis is the one major stupid thing so far in this otherwise good show. There weren't any beatings or killings of Muslims after 9/11 (though the liberals got their panties in a wad worrying about it), and there wouldn't be after this event.
Schrodinger's cat walks into a bar and doesn't.
This is the one major stupid thing so far in this otherwise good show. There weren't any beatings or killings of Muslims after 9/11 (though the liberals got their panties in a wad worrying about it), and there wouldn't be after this event.
You responded to a post that asked about the numbers of beatings and killings, but neither article gave a breakdown of the type of hate crimes that were committed. The first article has a picture of a sign that reads "Stop Hate Speech." Many of us don't consider any speech a crime, and it certainly doesn't rise to the level of beatings or killings. The second article was written in the wake of three Muslims being killed in North Carolina, but it turned out, after the article was written, that is what a spat between neighbors over parking spaces. I'm sure there are beating and killings, but I don't know how many.
shareYou responded to a post that asked about the numbers of beatings and killings, but neither article gave a breakdown of the type of hate crimes that were committed.
The first article has a picture of a sign that reads "Stop Hate Speech." Many of us don't consider any speech a crime, and it certainly doesn't rise to the level of beatings or killings.
The second article was written in the wake of three Muslims being killed in North Carolina, but it turned out, after the article was written, that is what a spat between neighbors over parking spaces.
I'm sure there are beating and killings, but I don't know how many.
Yet they are still a small percentage of religious hate crimes, just 15%
http://forward.com/news/325988/jews-are-still-the-biggest-target-of-hate-crimes/
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But they make up .09% of the population. Jews make up 2.3%. So the numbers would be higher.
"In light of the fact that these crimes rose 1000% in 2001 and even then, were underreported"
If they weren't reported how do you know?
Fun fact: There are more Catholic Arabs in America than Muslim Arabs. Dearborn has a good number of Muslims, but there are even more Christian Arabs who live there. They've ended up here because they are persecuted in the Middle East.
shareDo you honestly think the cops were stopping to make a distinction between Christians and Muslims? I'm pretty sure their order were "if he's brown, beat him down".
shareSoy ours assuming that every single cop was aboard with this. If they were m, they would have had more deaths don't you think?
shareIn agreement of being prejudicial against Muslims in their community? Even at the orders of the governor, wouldn't there be one policeman, sergeant, captain, lieutenant, hell, the mayor of the city, thinking that this is a horrendous idea?
Fact: It's a tv show.
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