Not sure but why was the film so insistant that the United States was just itching to nuke tokyo? Does Japan really see the US that way that we'd just freak out over a 120 meter tall monster and just go nuke crazy. And even crazier that the Japanese would be willing to let the US do it. I just don't see wither case happening.
I mean, both Japan's and America's forces couldn't take it out, so a nuke would be a realistic conclusion, especially since Godzilla would be unable to escape from it due to his cooldown lock.
shareI just don't get the whole lets wait for him to enter a major population zone then nuke him. The american version for some reason deliberatly lead the creatures to San Fransisco instead oh I don't know the desert or something.
shareAt least the city would be evacuated in time. Doesn't really matter though since when Godzilla unfreezes then they have to nuke him. Have to.
Which will happen. It's Godzilla after all. He's not gonna just stay down like that. Either him or his..."kids".
I just don't get the whole lets wait for him to enter a major population zone then nuke him. The american version for some reason deliberatly lead the creatures to San Fransisco instead oh I don't know the desert or something.
Godzilla wasen't lured to Tokyo, Big G just showed up, and became stationary for a fortnight. In the film, Japan is urged to evacuate during that time frame so there'd be no, or little, collateral damage.
Godzilla wasen't lured to Tokyo, Big G just showed up, and became stationary for a fortnight. In the film, Japan is urged to evacuate during that time frame so there'd be no, or little, collateral damage.
The reason they were eager to nuke Godzilla was because it was rapidly evolving, it doubled its size and gained new, devastating abilities in a short time frame. They literally mention in the film that there's concern of it growing wings, and spawning new creatures.
Godzilla wasen't lured to Tokyo, Big G just showed up, and became stationary for a fortnight. In the film, Japan is urged to evacuate during that time frame so there'd be no, or little, collateral damage.
I guess the context is that the US has used nukes as weapons, where other countries have only just tested. We're the only ones! USA! USA! At least that's how I imagine Japan looks at it, and that we dropped the second one without waiting for an executive response.
Nowadays, it's more like dirty hands we're trying to get clean. It'd sooner be Russia or China to muscle a nuke onto a Western-allied financial capital in East Asia.
I guess the context is that the US has used nukes as weapons, where other countries have only just tested. We're the only ones! USA! USA! At least that's how I imagine Japan looks at it, and that we dropped the second one without waiting for an executive response.
Nowadays, it's more like dirty hands we're trying to get clean. It'd sooner be Russia or China to muscle a nuke onto a Western-allied financial capital in East Asia.
I think it's harder for Western audiences to understand that all the political stuff is supposed to be satire (for reference, I am a Westerner).
It's not supposed to be taken 100% seriously, the film is bringing to light how the old-school Japanese bureaucrats are ineffective, and spineless. They're looking out for their positions and titles (sometimes soggy noodles), and easily bend to international pressure, specifically from the US.
The other obvious parallel is the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. So when you ask if that's how the Japanese view the US, the answer would be yes (generally speaking) as the US dropped not one, but two nukes on their country in reality. Not only that, they were dropped on civilian populations. Lastly, the bombings were, to the best of my knowledge, completely unnecessary and more of a muscle flex from the US. I think these are some of the reasons the US, and the events in the film were portrayed in this manner.
I know it's harder to get this stuff because it is very steeped in their culture, but hopefully I made this a bit more clear for you.
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Wow...just wow. You actually have no idea how monatery systems work do you? And as far as technology goes... who is landing probes on distant solar system objects, doing cutting edge robotics research...I'm not talking the clever toys either. Actual useful robots.
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For cutting edge technologies, the components are produced "in house", not off the shelf.
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The USA is always prejudiced against Japan and don't really care if it is bombed as long as America is not targeted. Even though Japan could buy the USA with the wealth it has created through technology.
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What is this nonsense.
Japan is going through a major recession right now.
They're still recovering from the Tsunami and Earthquake.
The strength of the Yen has greatly depreciated and the bubble popped years ago there.
Also, in the movie, they mentioned if the Godzilla attack was in NY, the U.S. would nuke there just the same.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/797-Transformers-Revenge
...Also, in the movie, they mentioned if the Godzilla attack was in NY, the U.S. would nuke there just the same...
Yea but we all know that would never happen. The US would lure him into a non populated zone before dropping a nuke. I think even the movie was imlying that the U.S. claiming they would nuke NY was an out right lie. The audience chuckled when they read that.
Both US and Russia were eager to bomb Tokyo in Godzilla 1984 as well, nothing new here. In all honesty tho, quite a few Japanese stories are complaining how their country is always under the US's thumb.
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Both US and Russia were eager to bomb Tokyo in Godzilla 1984 as well, nothing new here.
> Both US and Russia were eager to bomb Tokyo in Godzilla 1984 as well, nothing new here. In all honesty tho, quite a few Japanese stories are complaining how their country is always under the US's thumb.
In 1984 they just wanted to use nuclear weapons on godzilla not nessisarily on tokyo.
I recall it was most all other nations pushing for a thermonuclear strike until they were able to convince France to lobby for a delay in order to attempt the plan with the coagulant chemical.
shareWell, after a bit of refreshing research, I'm going to redact my earlier statement the the US's use of the bomb was a muscle flex.
There was definitely thought put into the dropping of the bombs, as well as warnings that a number of potential sites could be bombed into oblivion. Not quite the show of bravado that I made it out to be.
(The rest of this post is another response to the OP)
However, I still feel the depiction in the film isn't too far off of rationale.
IIRC, it's implied that the US knew more about Godzilla than they let on. Also, not only is a 120 metre tall creature terrifying, but we're also talking about a creature that can evolve multiple times in it's lifetime, is impervious to military grade weapons, and can shoot lasers from it's mouth, dorsal fins, and tail. A creature capable of destroying any major city uncontested, while no loyalty to any nation.
The nuclear bomb seems like a somewhat rationale decision, obliterate one city for the sake of the rest of the world.
I recall it was most all other nations pushing for a thermonuclear strike until they were able to convince France to lobby for a delay in order to attempt the plan with the coagulant chemical.
...I recall it was most all other nations pushing for a thermonuclear strike until they were able to convince France to lobby for a delay in order to attempt the plan with the coagulant chemical...
Yea it was implied that the US was lobbying other world governments to allow a nuke drop. This nuke godzilla was a U.S. lead cooalition.
I was thinking more along the lines of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IiQU1p4-9E for unrealistic Asian depictions of Americans.
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