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6.4 rating? Can someone explain?


First, this show got an 81% on Rotten Tomatoes. Ep. 1 got 7.9 here and Ep.3 got 9.3. So what's with the 6.4?

"We exist only in what we do" -Fellini

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LOVE the show, it is just imdb trolls.

I really don't understand the complaint from some critics and fans that say its to slow. I friggin love it.

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I think I might like this medieval adventure if I could just understand the dialogue. The brogues of most characters are so thick they should cut them with their swords.

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Maybe the OP is just a liar. This has a 49/100 critic and 43/100 audience score on Rotten, not "81."

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the-bastard-executioner/

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Putting hate speech in the title will tend to do that.

Maybe cutting down on the graphic depictions of kids getting killed would help too.

How many dead babies does it take per episode? Thanks Kurt Sutter and Fox, for turning what used to be a sick joke into actual reality.

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Wait dead children was a sick joke? Children getting killed isn't reality?

Bastard is hate speech? It's an insult, usually used against people behaving like *beep* or used as descriptive in some context (yes, this includes children, or are you saying "a child who's father isn't known"), sword, mixed raced dogs.

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B****** is a 'slur', meaning it is two definitions slurred into one word. You can not use that word without promoting both definitions. One of those is 'terrible person', young, old, whatever. The other is 'child of single parent'.

Result = using the word, at all, promotes the idea that children of single parents are terrible people.

That is hate speech.

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B****** is a 'slur', meaning it is two definitions slurred into one word.


Uuh no. In this context, 'slur' just means 'an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation'.

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Well, that's uhh…wrong. Not even close to being true.

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Kurt sutter is not the first writer to show the death of a child on screen. Uwe Boll has done that in several of his movies. the point is to shock viewers and make the bad guy more hatable


Rob Zombie is one of the greatest directors today

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Umm, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the beautiful red haired freckled faced girl got her nose cut off....? What kid got killed?

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Simple, a lot of people do not like the show and rate is lower than those who love it.

It seems to be that it's not as popular as some think it is.

SOA always had mixed ratings too, it gained a huge following when it was released on Netflix Streaming.

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It's 49% on RT atm.

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I don't think it is imdb trolls. The show to this point has really not lived up to the hype. At all. I know it may not be your opinion, but when asked what I think about it, I say "it sucks".because for me. It does. And I loved SOA by the way, so don't label me a Sutter hater.

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Episode 1 IMDb rating
Mean: 7.5
Median: 8
Displayed rating: 7.4

Episode 2
Mean: 7.9
Median: 8
Displayed rating: 7.9

Episode 3
Mean: 8.6
Median: 9
Displayed rating: 8.6

The OP is 100% correct. The ratings for the show are indeed higher than the number displayed on the main page. All of the posts responding with "because the show sucks" completely miss the OP's point and ignore the facts. The actual rating should be around 8.0.

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Don't you have the ability to rate the individual episodes and the show as a whole?

I'd imagine a lot of people are rating just the series, not each specific episode.

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This is the answer... Those who really enjoy the show are more likely to rate individual episodes. So it makes sense that those scores would be higher than the show rating. Also, Rotten Tomatoes currently has it with a 49% critic rating and 42% audience rating (not 81%). The consensus certainly seems to be accurately reflected at a 6.4 rating.

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And that is a major flaw in IMDb policy. You can't rate movies until after the release date, so why should you be allowed to rate entire shows that are still airing? You should be able to rate current shows by episode and by season. Only after a show airs it's series finale or is canceled should users be allowed to rate it as a whole.

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Because, I don't have to watch all episode to know and feel about a series.

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Fair enough. In this case, three episodes have aired out of a guaranteed ten (and possibly more of the show is renewed). If you've watched them all, you've seen 30%. Rating it now is akin to rating a two hour movie you saw 36 minutes of. If it is renewed for a second season of ten episodes and you watch no more of it, your rating is for only 15% of the episodes or just 18 minutes of a two-hour movie. To use Sutter's past show as an example, there were 92 episodes. If you rated the show after only three episodes, your rating is based on only 3.2% of the series, the equivalent of judging a two-hour movie by it's first three minutes. I think that we can agree that rating a movie you've only seen three minutes of is dishonest. The same applies to the equivalent length in shows, particularly serialized shows.

There is no perfect system. I'm sure people rate movies they haven't seen and even episodes they haven't seen. But IMDb should at least pretend they care about the honesty of their ratings by acknowledging that this show and any other show presently airing are impossible to rate as a whole.

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If you've watched them all, you've seen 30%.
You can usually tell if you're enjoying a movie or not 1/3 of the way through it.

But IMDb should at least pretend they care about the honesty of their ratings
They do. There's nothing wrong with being able to rate an entire show versus individual episodes.

If you rated SOA based on the last 3 season episodes individually, just based on the board discussions and feedback, the entire rating of the show would have gone down significantly.

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Thanks for the info. BTW, I'm not a 'Sutter Hater' but honestly, I didn't think much of SoA. This one looks good, though. But then I've always had a weakness for this kind of thing.

"We exist only in what we do" -Fellini

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The show just is not good. I was really looking forward to it too. I love some of the actors and I like Kurt Sutter. Instead, we get a terrible show with horrible writing and dialogue. Say what you want, but the dialogue on this show sucks. No one has ever talked like these people.

GO SIXERS!!!
Phillies
Fly Eagles Fly

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I really, really wanted to like this show, unfortunately I found I did not "feel" for any of the characters and hence was losing interest after 35 minutes of the pilot episode. I concur with your opinion on looking forward to it as well.

Such a shame, what could possibly be a brilliant show seems to be marred with gratuitous violence which may appeal to a much younger audience.

I for one have stopped watching it after the first episode. There are too many other good shows at the moment to be spending time viewing this.

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The dialogue is terrible. In the first 10 minutes I groaned at least five times from the ridiculous things they say.

Katy Segal's accent is terrible.
How many SOA people will be featured on this show? I counted 3 in the first 20 minutes.

I love good dramas, period pieces, sword and sorcery, etc. I had to turn this POS off after 12 minutes.

It reminds me of the Dungeons and Dragons movie, for some reason.

Maybe I'll give it a few days and try again, but WOW. It hurts my head.

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How many SOA people will be featured on this show? I counted 3 in the first 20 minutes.

I love good dramas, period pieces, sword and sorcery, etc. I had to turn this POS off after 12 minutes.


One of these statements is false.

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Hahaha

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