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Sounds pretty credible.

For example page two of this article says that Chloe takes a sample of Lucifer's blood from the crime scene to try to find out who he really is, but there are parties who don't want his divinity revealed.

Also, Tom will be singing a "stirring performance" of All Along The Watchtower in the season opener.

See more here:

http://www.screenspy.com/articles/devilish-delights-exclusive-scoop-lucifers-season-2-premiere/






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I think I'm in love with you,really seriously, lol, you have the best links ever. Looking forward to hearing Lucifer belt out All Along The WatchTower and to see if Chloe does the blood sample.

“imperfection is an altogether attainable human goal,” and “love is acceptance of imperfections.

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lol...well, then that makes it worth it. :)

All I do is have a google alert set up, and simply weed out all the bad links and occasionally there's a really good one. There's another very popular Tom Ellis who does electronic music and he's also from Wales, or spends time in Wales, or something, so I immediately know not to bother looking at those alerts. Sadly, no matter how many times I click the "inappropriate link" button, I just keep getting them. Maybe I should just give up and become his fan, too. :)






I put my heart and my soul into my work, and have lost my mind in the process. --Van Gogh

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I've never cared for that song but I may change my mind in a couple of weeks.

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Oh man, I love anything Jimi, really. And Dylan, too. But neither one of them sang it in a very melodic way, so it's going to be interesting to see how Tom does it. Especially since it's usually so guitar heavy. However he decides to attack it, I think it's going to be epic!!!








I put my heart and my soul into my work, and have lost my mind in the process. --Van Gogh

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OMG!! The Devil playing one of the Classic Rock!! I can definitely get used to this...

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I agree and since Tom will be on a piano and he has a different singing style,I think it will be epic to. I really like that it is Tom doing the piano playing and not a double. Just makes it that much nicer and moody.

“imperfection is an altogether attainable human goal,” and “love is acceptance of imperfections.

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So looks like we now know at least one reason the first episode is titled, "Everything's Coming Up Lucifer". :)









I put my heart and my soul into my work, and have lost my mind in the process. --Van Gogh

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I think I responded to the wrong person there.

What I meant was, if Chloe's looking into Lucifer's identity via dna testing, and esp. if Lucifer's happy about that fact, then it makes sense why the episode is titled "Everything's Coming Up Lucifer".










I put my heart and my soul into my work, and have lost my mind in the process. --Van Gogh

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Hubby is the Hendrix fan. I can take him or leave him. We did the Hendrix Experience at Avila Beach a couple years ago. We were three couples. The guys loved it, us gals brought earplugs/asprin/and visited the wine booth more than a few times, so we made due.

I do like Dylan though. This will we be the second Dylan song TE's played (1st was Knocking on Heaven's Door).

I too am having a hard time figuring out how it will sound on a piano and no guitar. U2 did a cover of it on one of their albums in the '90's that was decent. Maybe I'll dig it out and give it a go with new ears.

It should be an interesting take on it.

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A "wine booth". Jimi would have rolled over in his grave. lol.

Hey, whatever gets you by. :)




I put my heart and my soul into my work, and have lost my mind in the process. --Van Gogh

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Sounds so exciting! Can't wait! Less than two weeks away.

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13 more sleeps!





I put my heart and my soul into my work, and have lost my mind in the process. --Van Gogh

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It's like Christmas in September - and I really really really want to shake the box 😉

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Why would his blood show up any different then any other human. His DNA wont be on file. If Lucifer is not allowed to prove divinity. At that is why he is different around her. Because she is the only one he is trying to prove it to. That means he will never be able to prove it to her. Think about it how would he ever prove it since he becomes mortal around her. It started with, she knows he got shot twice but not even a scratch. But she still does not believe who he is. She knows their is something strange about him. But how will she ever accept something that defies her reality. When Lucifer can not prove it.

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She's looking for a real identity. one that might be on file. she may also be wondering if something odd might show up. that's perfectly reasonable story-telling.

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She's not trying to prove his divinity, per se. She's just trying to figure out what's going on because things are very strange with him. First, she thinks he has a checkered past and that he created a new identity 5 years ago as Lucifer Morningstar. She wants to run a DNA match to see if he or any close relative is in the system as a match, say, a violent father or other family member? She thinks perhaps she'll find his DNA on file in conjunction with some other crime under a different name. She just knows his story doesn't add up and that he has a lot of money and powerful connections with no explanation for it. It's what a detective would do. Collect evidence, analyze it.

And no, just because he bleeds and is mortal around her, doesn't mean his divinity is gone. His other powers are still intact, he's just vulnerable to her, so that doesn't mean the makeup of his blood is going to be any different. He can still teleport, do his mind trick on people, change his form, exhibit super-strength, and levitate objects, in his hand anyway. None of that has changed.

I think it's a spell of sort that's been placed on Chloe to keep her protected around Lucifer, and possibly any supernatural being. But that doesn't change anything else about him/them. Just his susceptibility to her.















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So here's a thought... Lucifer doesn't bleed except around Chloe, in effect, she makes him more human. So wouldn't his blood then be human as well? There might be some weird attributes to it but still human.

But then that's not really true either because Amenadiel bled when stabbed by Maze's knife, what was in his blood? No reason for it to be human.

Argh... I am so over thinking this.

I do like the idea that Lucifer apparently is all for her testing his blood, and that he knows she's doing it.

Okay here's another thought, we seem to assume that there is some sort of celestial being not wanting divinity proved, but what if it is Ella? You can't prove divinity, you can only have faith in it, that sort of thing? Since, I assume, she would be the one testing it as the forensic scientist, it would be her chance to show her religious side.



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Ahh, you're smart. This is probably how Ella gets involved in the story. Otherwise, it's sort of random to just have a Forensic Scientist suddenly appear on the show when they haven't cared about that stuff in the past.

Yeah, angels obviously have blood because they can beat the you-know-what out of each other. When Lucifer let Amenadiel pound on him, he got blood all over his shirt. I don't see why the blood composition would change just because it's shedding is caused by a mortal rather than another supernatural being.















Exaggerate the essential, leave the obvious vague. —Vincent Van Gogh

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It would certainly be interesting to find out how Lucifer's blood analyses. I am guessing the celestials would have bodily fluids in keeping with those they are among.

In one of the bits on the upcoming season, there is a comment that Amenadiel is going to try to rein in Lucifer's recklessness. I am inclined to think it is he, who is not particularly keen on the celestial identity of Lucifer and therefore himself being revealed beyond Lucifer's unbelieved story. There are now at least 3 humans who have been told Amenadiel is Lucifer's brother.

Ella may or may not want to move from faith to scientific fact, but that first supposes Chloe has told her of the odd things about Lucifer. Chloe has quite determinedly hung onto the idea of Lucifer having 'adopted' this persona especially considering, the whole shooting in the leg thing so perfectly proved to her Lucifer's claim of not bleeding was a load of BS. She might get Ella to test the blood, but I can't see her telling her why beyond she is trying to find a previous identity. Even if Chloe is coming round to thinking Lucifer really is the Devil, I can't see her making that known to anyone, particularly not a co-worker.

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All Chloe needs to say is she wants to prove that Lucifer is/is not THE Lucifer. She maybe tells her that Lucifer is delusional and really believes it himself and she's trying to help/contact family to get him help, any number of things. She doesn't have to say anything about his extra abilities.

As others mentioned, it'll be interesting to see which route the writers took with the blood analysis. My guess it shows to be human with some identifiable extra in it.

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So here's a thought... Lucifer doesn't bleed except around Chloe, in effect, she makes him more human. So wouldn't his blood then be human as well? There might be some weird attributes to it but still human.


It all depends on how God created humans. In the beginning, God, his wife and their sons lived in Heaven happily for a long time. Then God got bored and had a pet project to create humans based on his image. Eventually he got addicted on the project and totally ignored his family. My guess is that God, Angels and humans should have similar blood because they came from the same origin. So Chloe can't prove anything testing Lucifer's blood.

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He can not lose his divinty. Like his mother they take on human form. There are no families or records or DNA to find. What Chole is seeing was created that way five years ago. He has shown he dies he does not cest to exist. Chole is not trying to prove his divinity because she does not believe who he is. From what it looks like Lucifer will not be able to prover who he is.

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No they don't "take on human form". Have you read the comic? Doesn't work that way. There is no mother in the comic, but in the show she's some kind of a god, an energy form, and that's why her form is different from Lucifer's. Just like God's form is different. He is at times a ball of light, The Presence, or any appearance He chooses. In one scene in the comic, He quickly cycles through many appearances, Michael, Lucifer, Elaine's mom, etc. He often appears as an old man in a mustache and bowler hat. That's a favorite. Charlotte for some reason needs a host. But Lucifer is Lucifer, in hell, heaven, or on earth.






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Also, not having his wings weakens him somewhat, but doesn't remove all of his powers. He just chooses to almost never use them, even in the comic, with or without his wings. He relies on his ability to outsmart everyone.






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I got a panic attack trying to read your post. There's so many spelling and grammatical errors that I couldn't get through it. So, uh, you may have had something rather interesting to contribute, but alas, one reader here (at least) will never flourish from your words of wisdom.


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Chloe thinks "Lucifer Morningstar" is a cover name for who he really is. So she wants to test the DNA to find out and she doesn't believe his explanations. Probably of the "every thing can be explained" theorist. Lucifer doesn't lie to her and so he wants her to find out,but "whoever" doesn't want her to know about divinity.

The only bits that bother me is that Chloe doesn't believe in heaven or hell,but she told Lucifer "Don't worry I'm sure where he's going the punishments coming" so which is it.

Lucifer says,cant remember the exact line,but that they will be punished far more where they are going,but tells us there is no one there to do the punishing,because "he" isn't there.



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Yes there have been some inconsistencies in writing mostly becuase different writer's are used and they want to incorporate snappy lines so badly. I hate this and wish they were more cohesive in their world building. but you have to come to expect this thing of shows these days. sadly.

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I took it in one of two ways. One, she's playing along with his delusion to appease him, or two, she really believes Jimmy will get what's coming to him in prison.

Lucifer didn't get to finish that sentence because just as he was saying it, a bullet hit Chloe.

Here's the exact exchange:

Lucifer: Why did you do that?
Chloe: He was gonna kill you.
Lucifer: No, no, no, no, no, no. You just... you just let him off too easy. He needs to pay! He needs to suffer! He needs to feel the pain, not escape it!
Chloe: Don't worry. I'm sure where he's going, the pain's coming.
Lucifer: No. No, it's not, actually. And you know why? Because I'm here and he's...








Exaggerate the essential, leave the obvious vague. —Vincent Van Gogh

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Your right the scene could be taken two different ways. I saw it as she just shot Jimmy and likely thought he was dead or dying and Lucifer didn't want her to shoot him because he is not in hell to punish him. Lucifer couldn't punish him if he were in prison either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dWKPGWq2UM

Either way I did love that scene and the interaction with Chloe and again the scene with her in the hospital. Also when he heals Chloe,I think that is when he exchanged a small bit of his divinity/immortality and made him vulnerable to her. In other words he didn't make her a bit "angelic" (cause he cant be hurt around Amendiel by others) so it would conclude she has a "part of him" inside her. Well that is my theory anyway.

“imperfection is an altogether attainable human goal,” and “love is acceptance of imperfections.

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The Pilot (the episode that scene is from) has a few discrepencies that are different from the rest of the season.

Besides that scene, in the Pilot, Trixie is seven. In the next episode, she's eight. And I'm sure they would have mentioned a birthday. Also, in the school scene, Chloe asks Dan to drop Trixie off at her Mom's. But in the next episode, we learn that Chloe is living at her mom's house. Anyway, those are the ones I am aware of.

I think the reasons for these discrepancies is that there was a gap between the time Tom Kapinos wrote the Pilot and Joe Henderson/the Writers Room planned the rest of the season. I'm pretty sure all the changes were conscious decisions. Whether that's good or bad in the world of television scriptwriting, I don't know.

Considering that the show has been very consistent with their storytelling details from episode 2, I am willing to give Joe Henderson, Ildy Modrovich, and the rest of the writers/producers a pass.

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Besides that scene, in the Pilot, Trixie is seven. In the next episode, she's eight. And I'm sure they would have mentioned a birthday.


Actually they did mention Trixie's birthday. In the chocolate cake scene, Trixie had eaten a piece of her birthday cake. So they did address the age thing.
BTW, was that scene cute or what? I wished they'd shown Lucifer telling Trixie that if she really wanted something to go for it. That would have been adorable!

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Oh yeah, I forgot they mentioned Trixie's birthday in that scene.
And, yes, that Lucifer and Trixie scene would have been adorable!

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There is a practice of telling children things designed to make them feel empowered particularly girl children - things such as 'there is nothing you can't do', 'You can be whatever you want' Lucifer's "If you really want to do something, you should." message is much in keeping with that empowerment message and Trixie gave it her own spin.
I loved that scene because it indicated there was more to the Trixie Lucifer relationship than we had been privy to, more then his "Oh! Get back!" show in Pops.

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Yes! I so agree. It was one of the indicators that Trixie and Lucifer's relationship is deeper than we've seen. Another time was when she goes to Lux looking for her "friend" because "he always makes me feel better".

And one of my all time favorite lines is in that scene too, delivered by Maze.

"His friends get worse and worse." lol







Exaggerate the essential, leave the obvious vague. —Vincent Van Gogh

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The scene with Maze is too priceless! I loved the bit with Maze being so tickled, so thrilled at being called a 'friend' by Trixie particularly after the "worse and worse" comment.

If I have any criticism of Season 1 is that the interaction between Lucifer and Trixie is kept so scant and the depth of the relationship is alluded to rather than shown outright - that solemn little face quoting Lucifer's direction to 'do what she wants', the sign on her bedroom door and the trip to Lux.

About the sign on the bedroom door... Do you see a parallel between the order of the names, Lucifer and Daddy, the size of the print of the names, and Elaine's loyalty to Lucifer over the warnings of Michael?

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Hmmmm...that would be a very subtle hint, but kinda makes sense.

Other people have picked up subtle things like that. Like one person noticed that the big metal star in Chloe's living room is a pentagram. I always just thought it was one of those country decor barn stars, but it is kind of odd. Then again, that whole house is odd. Clearly interior design is not the Deckers' priority. The only thing truly great about that house is the fantastic location, and the windows. :)

Which by the way, cracks me up. I mean Lucifer's in Hollywood, and the closest she can possibly be would be Venice Beach. And I can promise you, that aint Venice Beach. It looks more like Malibu being up on that hill with that glorious view. And her mom being a movie star, Malibu makes more sense. But I suppose she might be in someplace like Santa Monica. But anyway, VB or SM are a minimum 45 minute drive (Malibu's twice as far), and that's in the dead of night when there's no traffic. It's more likely a 1 to 2 hour drive to Venice Beach, even though it's only like 15 miles away. But welcome to LA traffic, just another version of Hell. :)







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Neat stuff!! Being in rural Canada and never having been to California, this is something T wouldn't be aware of...

I kind of like the casual nature of the house although, the idea of Chloe sleeping on the couch is a bit weird! You are right though the windows are smashing!

We know the writers like to slip in their 'book-end' lines... I am not sure if that is the appropriate term but having Maze do the "Mama Morningstar" quip made me laugh. I instantly saw TE doing that silly look and saying 'Mama Decker" and then the sigh.

Do you suppose some of us have watched some of these scenes too many times???

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Yeah, I didn't really finish the thought, but you got my drift. It's just not easy to "pop over" to the Deckers' house. It's a major outing. Downtown LA is also not close to Hollywood either. Downtown is kind of a business district. Los Angeles is just so spread out. I do love seeing the long shots of the LA area though, even though they film mostly in Vancouver, like when Lucifer was driving to the rapper's house, or going to that Glass Chapel. How cool would that place be to get married?

Somewhere on here quite a long time ago I posted a link to pics of the sets under normal lighting and from different vantage points. And the actual building in Hollywood that they're using for Lux, minus the CGI improvements. Close up pics inside Chloe's house, etc. I wish I could find that again, it was really interesting. For example, Lux looks nothing in the light of day like it does on screen and with the lights overhead. And Lucifer's library and penthouse scenes are cool, too. Maybe I'll come across it one of these days.








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I kind of like the casual nature of the house although, the idea of Chloe sleeping on the couch is a bit weird!


I assumed since the bathroom was upstairs that there was a bedroom to go with it, though even then I thought it weird that Trixie would sleep downstairs by herself, perhaps that's why Chloe sleeps on the sofa?

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Yeah, that's what I wondered, too. Staying downstairs to be close to Trixie. Plus, she's really a guest. If Mama Decker's in town, she probably gets the main bedroom. Maybe Chloe plays musical beds? And not in the slutty way. :)



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Thank you so much for posting that article.
Everytime I get more info about season 2, I get even more excited! So far I haven't been disappointed with one spoiler, and I am really looking forward to seeing everything play out on screen! 😀💖😍😈

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Pretty much the same, with just a little more info. Go to slide 26 for the scoop. (text copied below)


http://tvline.com/gallery/fall-tv-2016-season-premiere-spoilers/#!26/fall-preview-lucifer/


LUCIFER

Picking up two days after the finale’s bombshell drop, “Lucifer and Amenadiel have been on the hunt for mom,” says showrunner Joe Henderson. The brothers, though, aren't exactly best buds bound by a common goal. "There's a bit of jealousy. After all, Amenadiel’s not the one who got the marching orders from Dad.”

Played by new series regular Tricia Helfer, Mum/”Charlotte” escaped with an agenda that is both “very emotional, and very genuine” — though it will shift, Henderson warns. This unexpected reunion soon summons the angel Uriel (Michael Imperioli), though whether he’s friend or foe to his bros “will be a mystery.”

Maze has her own conflicted feelings about Charlotte; given the demon's old job as Hell’s chief enforcer, “She may be wanting to finish the job she started," says the EP.

Chloe, meanwhile, will investigate Lucifer anew, having seen him survive a point-blank shooting — and this time she has a blood sample to work with….

BONUS SPOILER!: Seeing how Lucifer tends to "take her advice and twist it for his own purposes," Dr. Linda will wonder, "Is she helping him at all?" says Henderson. "And if not, maybe it's time to end their sessions for good.”





Exaggerate the essential, leave the obvious vague. —Vincent Van Gogh

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I accidentally posted these in the wrong thread so am reposting here:

Mild spoilers here:

http://www.spoilertv.com/2016/09/lucifer-everythings-coming-up-lucifer.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


"This episode is a devilishly brilliant start to the new season and was written by Joe Henderson and directed by Nathan Hope."


"If the rest of the season can live up to the pace set in the premiere then this season is poised to be even better than its predecessor."


A whole bunch of pictures from the first episode here:

http://www.spoilertv.com/2016/08/lucifer-episode-201-everythings-coming.html









Exaggerate the essential, leave the obvious vague. —Vincent Van Gogh

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Ugh I can't wait. This time next week YES.

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