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More than you think **Spoilers**


This is not my original idea as i read a review making this theory, but this movie is more enjoyable when you realize it is not a forest that kills people. This is a forest where people must face their sadness, and some cannot face it and kill themselves. Now, onto the point about the main character...

Sara and Jess not twins but are one singular person in a split personality. There are TONS of clues to this.

1) The hair color is an obvious choice. It plays a role later, but to tell the difference, we see two dramatic changes. Could just be cinematic ease, however it does play a role later.

2) She always says that when her sister makes bad choices, she has to come and save her. Sara is the passive personality, and "comes forward" during times of high stress or trauma. This split originated during the trauma of the parents murder/ suicide. Sara said she never saw the scene, so when Jess faces that sadness it sparks Sara to the rescue as Sara can hide behind the idea that she never saw the trauma. One very specific case of this is the second suicide attempt. Sara said she had not heard from Jess and could not reach her on the phone, so she had 911 check on her. You call 911 locally. You do not call it across states, so Sara called 911 when Jess took the pills to save her. Another thing is the use of pills, which someone dealing with this level of scarring would have high amounts of medication, like the ones seen in her bag. If we were to look closely at the pills, I bet there would be heavy medications for schizophrenia.

3) When Sara tells Rob that she needs to go save Jess, Rob looks like he has dealt with this before. What he sees is that Jess has relapsed into Sara, and is doing his best to keep her grounded. By "sleeping on it," he is trying to buy time for Jess to take over, but in the morning she has all ready left. One small aspect is we never see her in a plane, only in an apartment and then in Japan. Jess was actually in Japan teaching when she had a snap, and Rob did not have to fly to catch up to her. It may even be possible that Rob is her psychiatrist, and the apartment was his office. More on him later.

4) When she dreams about Jess in a tent, you see two silhouettes, but when she opens only 1 person is in the tent, which is Jess.

5) Sara knew exactly which direction Jess' tent is in. We never see the two together ever, except in pictures or during the split event. Jess was lost for 5 days, yet when she runs to the rescue party at the end she was at her tent.

6) When Sara searches her apartment, she looks at all of the hair products (which I bet hair dye is one of them)

7) When she sees a picture of Jess on Aiden's phone, it was actually a picture of her he had taken for the article. She does not recognize it is her because she views herself as blonde, but Jess is the real person so any picture would be of Jess and not of her perception of blonde hair.

8) The Sara Teasdale poem
"And not one will know of the war, not one
Will care at last when it is done.

Not one would mind, neither bird nor tree,
If mankind perished utterly;

And Spring herself, when she woke at dawn,
Would scarcely know that we were gone."

Translation: No one knows about her splits warring for control, and no one will care about the Sara's death as she is not real. Neither bird or tree relates to the forest gaining another spirit upon the shedding of the sadness. When she awakes at dawn, she barely knows the war took place as she never acknowledged she was split, but she does scarcely know she is gone.

9) When she explains the twin link, its a sound or buzz, and when the other is dead, it is silent. That is the quiet in her head after the split no longer occupies her subconsciousness. In this case, both personalities have a reality, but only one exists. The noise is the presence of the other personality in her subconscious.

10) When Jess comes out of the forest, Rob says "Sara?" They have opposite hair, so he should recognize that it is Jess. When she says nothing, he changes the name to Jess. She then answers. To further this, he strongly asks her if she has seen Sara. Knowing Sara is the trauma, he needs to know if Jess has regained control. When she says she is still in the forest, Rob knows it may mean Sara has been eliminated from Jess. She also says "she came to save me," which I think is when she realizes that Sara took control. More than likely, Jess understands their is a Sara, but is unable to control when she takes over.

So, to sum up the story. Jess moves to Japan and takes on a job as a teacher, but has been dealing with this mental health and trauma from the child's view of the horror. She knows the forest is where people "find themselves" and can "face their sadness." She had a tent, brought along reading material as she is their for a walkabout to finally face her trauma. During this, Sara takes over while she is in the forest. Two things could happen here. Since the story is told from Sara's view, most of the Sara adventure is just a completely false reality happening while Jess is in the woods, or Sara completely takes over, changes clothes (why Jess' clothes are hanging in the woods) and goes back to her psychiatrist in which she believes she is married to. Then the story goes as we follow Sara through backtracking to Jess. Jess said she was lost for 5 days, meaning she was in the woods for 5 days, but that is also how long we have followed Sara.

The story comes to an end in the ranger's cabin when she kills Aiden, and then is faced with the basement scene. She protects Jess from seeing the scene, telling her to not look, but then Sara sees the scene. Sara would not know what this looks like, as she said she never saw it but the scene was obvious to her. This is where Sara is forced to face the fact that she saw the horrible scene, and cannot hide between a split that is a witness to it and one that is safe from it. She then finally, once and for all, faces it, by literally asking her dad why, and then cutting him away from her. This of course is the suicide of Sara, but it is the killing of the split, leaving Sara to die in the basement where she was created. After the suicide, Jess awakens, and both can be seen running parallel to each other, indicating the return of control by Jess. This is the moment where they pass each other in the main control of Jess. Jess comes forward as Sara is running, causing Jess to run. She eventually emerges from the forest, having faced her trauma, and left behind a soul for the forest to keep. The Yuri are the remnants of the sadness left in the forest by the people who faced their sadness, regardless of suicide or success.

Nichi could not handle the sadness of losing someone under his guide, and this is why he is now susceptible to seeing the spirits, and Sara comes for him in the end.

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Lol

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This movie just made sense after reading this theory. Kudos to you!

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Thanks, once I saw the theory it all made sense to me too!

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Thank you for your summary, I thought about the split personality thing while watching.

One thing I can't explain or understand, however, is why when Sara arrives at the school, a student screams in horror. Any ideas on that? And was the Australian real, a real "bad" guy?

Would love to hear your thoughts.

Thanks😆

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I think there really is not anything special to the scared girl. The students knew the teacher went to the forest, and now saw her twin and thought she was a ghost.

Aiden is a tough one in the theory to comprehend. We can assume the "real" of the story revolves around the husband and the guide. Since the guide can see and talk to Aiden, he does exist. Whether he was a real bad guy? I do not think that is the case as Sara's perception of reality is skewed and she would view anyone as an enemy in the forest, and the movie is shot from Sara's perspective.

Unfortunately, that means that Aiden was real, probably not a bad guy and was murdered by Jess in that cabin. If Aiden happened to be a bad guy and that cabin was like a rape/murder dungeon, he would not have been able to plan the things that caused them to be alone, and more than likely he would have just captured her the first (and probably only night) they were away from the guide.

My big theory is about the movie making itself, as this was probably a much more obvious script/finding yourself movie and it was changed to a horror movie to get more sales. So characters like Aiden's true role and some of the scary parts do not seem to fit well into the movie.

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I'm confused - your argument is that they're not two separate people but that when the girl is scared she is looking at Jess' twin? But if Jess and Sara are the same person then Jess shouldn't have a twin?

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The twin is a figment of her subconscious. She sees the twin, talks to her twin, but only in her head.

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I understand that but their question was 'why did the school girl get scared by the twin' and your response was 'she was scared because she saw the twin and thought she was a ghost' but your whole argument is that the twin doesn't exist so how would that work?

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I'm late, but as I saw it, the girl screamed (in Jess' imagination) when imaginary Sara went to the school because - and this is occurring entirely in Jess' mind as she's sitting in her tent drooling or something - because the imaginary student would not know of Sara, and so would believe it is Jess coming back as a ghost. This also serves to roll along the fiction that has to be spun for Sara, to get her out to the forest, along with Aiden's possible malevolence. All of this serves as a kind of distraction, a fake mcguffin, to snare Sara into sacrificing herself for good.

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I'm surprised more people didn't jump on this post or break it down to be incorrect

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I'm surprised more people didn't jump on this post or break it down to be incorrect
For 2 reasons. Not too many people care to read long post and this movie isn't worth all the effort. It was boring, and it sucked.

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Too tiresome.

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Unfortunately the movie is nowhere this deep. Or clever. Face value all the way

“They come. They fight. They destroy. They corrupt. It always ends the same.”

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yup. all the OPs effort was for nothing.

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Unfortunately the movie is nowhere this deep. Or clever. Face value all the way
Exactly. How the OP comes us with such a post on such a movie is baffling.

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Agreed. As much as I would like to think the OP's dissection of the movie is accurate, I believe they put way more thought into their post than the screenwriters put into the screenplay. If only they had been so imaginative.

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That's an interesting theory and the split personality did come across my mind during the film, but I think that's giving too much credit to the movie... I don't think that's what the director intended at all, but it would have made a better film if implemented correctly.

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Like I said before, I believe the original script was probably written as this split personality thing, but during the process it got changed to a more classic horror film. All of the scares were just thrown in, with very little of it being a part of the story.

I personally think that either in editing, or during filming the movie was changed, and that is why it is not only bad, but has all of these other elements in there.

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That's a possibility. There is definitely a set up there that could work for this version too.

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Your theory helped me understand more things about the movie but you take Aiden's part for granted (australian journalist). Your theory gave me two alternative theories about Aiden...

A) As you said he really was a journalist and took her photo in the woods (although I don't remember him taking a picture of her).

B) She insists to go look in the woods for her "sister". The doctor couldn't stop her (as her "husband" he insisted she shouldn't go) or believes that would be a way for her to maybe face her demons / consider dead her "alter ego" and get over her double personality. So, Aiden is an associate of her therapist/husband, sent with her to protect her and take notes (recordings) of her reactions/thoughts for further treatment... He already has her photo in his phone (from her therapist i guess).
He gave me the impression he knew there was something wrong with her from the beginning. He lied to her a lot about his brother. The way he was staring at her tent before he fell asleep (except if he wanted to rape her, lol). He "assumed" there should be a radio in the cabin he found "by chance"! He told her Jess was in the basement because he knew that was what she needed to hear and save his ass as well. However, i don't know if they really were lost in the woods as he knew where the cabin was.

Anyway, very confusing film. And if your theory is right, the ghosts should be just urban legends combined with personal demons, visible only to her, cause she had issues. Then what was the final scene with the guide? What did he really see? Probably nothing visible to others. He was superstitious, a believer, and saw what he saw! Or he maybe realized that Aiden was dead or missing since he never showed up!


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I like your description of Aiden better. He definitely does not make much sense in the movie. I like the idea that he was placed by the husband/therapist as a protector and makes much more sense.

The guide at the end falls in line. The guide does not know Jess and the twin is the same. He ends up losing Jess and thinks she is dead in the forest. As a guide, he is of course sad because he left her there. After everyone leaves at the end, he is alone in the forest which makes him fear his sadness. He sees the split that was left behind as a spirit because he feels guilty for her death. Before this, he had no sadness so that us why he survived the forest until now.

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Very good point...but only if he really didn't know about the split-personality condition of Jess the second time he gets there. However, he arrives with the therapist/husband and the police (if i recall), so I guess he should be now aware of the situation!
But if he knew, he should see Aiden's "ghost" and not Sarah's. Aiden is now the missing person to cause him sadness and guilt.



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if this is true then the movie just made some sort of sense.
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