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**This is so much more worse than whitewashing**


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**This Is So Much Worse Than Whitewashing**
*Why I'm Boycotting Hollywood's Newest Movie "The Forest"*

As an Asian-American, I am no stranger to seeing my people whitewashed on the silver screen. It happened in "The Conqueror" when John Wayne played Genghis Khan and it's scheduled to repeat in 2017 when Scarlett Johannson stars as as Major Motoko Kusanagi in "Ghost in the Shell."

But NONE of these films compares to the whitewashing in Hollywood's newest movie "The Forest." This is by far the most sickening, low-class piece of *beep* I have EVER seen. Before I talk about why this is possibly the worst whitewashed Asian movie in history, you NEED to understand the context of this story and what "Forest" this movie is referring to.

Here's the scoop.

West of Tokyo, Japan at the base of Mt. Fuji is a stretch of forest called Aokigahara. Aokigahara is known for its lush and green foliage that remains fertile all year long. Walk along the trails and you'll see petite trees that ebb and flow with the wind and a ground painted with a thick layer of furry moss. But underneath this excessive life, woven between the leaves and bushes, is the exact opposite of life: death.

For 30 years, residents of Japan have come to the Aokigahara forest to commit suicide. Most hang themselves, others overdose on medication, and a select few hide deep in the woods and force themselves into dehydration and starvation. Rotting corpses hang from the branches and skeletons with the clothes intact are scattered all around.

In Japan, suicide is a national crisis. While America ranks 50th in yearly suicide rates, Japan is at a chilling 17th place with an estimated 70 suicides per day. Some are pressured into suicide by the stress of Japan's overwhelming work culture while others do it because of unemployment. One major factor that isn't as highly recognized due to Japanese social stigma is depression and mental health.

Japan's rigorous culture of conformity heavily stigmatizes those with mental health issues. Many Japanese have grown content with suicide and see it as a "reasonable" solution. In reality, suicide is an epidemic and is the second leading cause of death in the country.

*Why "The Forest" Is Worse Than Regular Whitewashed Hollywood Films*

"The Forest," a HORROR movie which stars a BLONDE WHITE GIRL, takes place in Aokigahara. So not only did they whitewash a movie and sidestep the opportunity to cast an Asian actress, they COMPLETELY DISRESPECTED the fact that Suicide Forest IS A REAL *beep* PLACE where the Japanese go to end their life. And it's not like these suicides happened 400 years ago. This is happening RIGHT. NOW. Over one hundred bodies are found in Aokigahara every single year.

To put this into perspective, imagine if a white-skinned Italian film director made a movie about police brutality and anti-Black violence in America, filmed the movie in America, but cast non-Black Italian actors.

The ABSOLUTE WORST thing about this film is the erasure of mental health issues among Asians worldwide. The model minority myth doesn't just assume that Asians are universally intelligent or rich, it also assumes that we're able-bodied and don't suffer from mental illness.

NO ONE talks about mental health among Asians. NO ONE talks about disabled Asians. Why? Because everyone believes that we're rich and smart enough to access healthcare.

Newflash: WE AREN'T

"The Forest" had an opportunity to address an issue that is LITERALLY killing Japanese citizens by the thousands. An issue that would have hit home with many Asian-Americans who also suffer from mental illness and depression. But instead of reaching out and confronting a problem that exists and is on-going, Hollywood turned it into a horror movie and whitewashed its cast, thus dehumanizing not only Asians around the globe affected by mental health, but those who have already committed suicide.

Words cannot describe my level of disgust. Hollywood can dehumanize me all it wants. It can cast me as the Asian side-kick in every movie, emasculate me with characters who never get the girl, and erase my history by whitewashing Bruce Lee or Sesue Hayakawa. But why this? Why erase mental health among Asians? Why stab an already invisible community that is suffering in silence?

*beep* this movie.
*beep* whoever this *beep* actress is for taking on the role.
And *beep* *beep* *beep* Hollywood for *beep* ON those affected by mental health.

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I completely understand your anger at the lack of care for the mentally ill or that emotional issues like severe depression (which can also be mentally driven) are looked down upon and stigmatized by Japanese society.

However...

That is not what this movie was about. It was about a sister looking for her sister in what is traditionally believed to be a haunted or demon infested place. It could have been set in Canada.

Yes that they used an actual place known for suicides is disrespectful (was any of it actually filmed in the forest? If so that is asking for bad mojo); but the film did not address the situation in Japan because it was not relevant to the story. The film was not about the high suicide rate in Japan and or why there is such a high suicide rate. Again, it was about a sister looking for her sister in a creepy place (it could have been a cave system - called the movie "The Cave" instead of "The Forest").

So I do not believe there was any whitewashing as a) the film was not about the suicide rate in Japan; and b) the lead character did not necessarily have to be Japanese. That she wasn't actually added to the tension of her being out of place.

I sincerely hope the Japanese people come to realize that there is no shame in getting or seeking help for depression and other mental\emotional issues. Ending ones life is "a permanent solution" to what could be a temporary situation.

Peace!

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Silly rabbit do you expect anything less from white people but to perpetrate, encroach on and decimate other peoples cultures?

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They had no choice but to cast Natalie Dormer - Johnny Depp wasn't available. I hear he's Japanese on his mother's side.

"Whatever happened to Fay Wray?"

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Exactly. This movie works off the same, ethnically insensitive premise as "A Yankee in King Arthur's Court," or any other film that tries to convey the narrative of a foriegn culture as experienced through the eyes of a non-foreign protagonist. It's like... who would benefit from that juxtapostion? It's obviously just another, aggressive example of the white supremecy that is overwhelming in Hollywood today. And great point about never making a film that might exploit an actual epidemic from which people suffer or address an historical event that might upset people who were actually effected. Who the hell do these writers, producers, and directors think they are trying to "tell a story" based on events they've only "heard" about? We're supposed to somehow learn historical and cultural context through "story-telling" all of the sudden? Any socially conscious screen-writer worth their creative salt could've easily wrote this film to take place on an alien planet, and cast Jada Pinkett Smith as the lead. The "Italian Director" comparisson is dead-on as well. Some concrete examples of this would be Jackie Chan's "Gangs of New York," where all the African American characters are seen as bums, gang-memebers, and pimps. A less cartoonish, but more historically impactful film would be Spike Lee's "Miracle at St. Anna's." The event depicted took place on August 12, 1944, when troops from the 16th SS Panzer Grenadier Division killed 560 people in the village of Sant'Anna di Stazzema. No US soldiers, let alone African-Americans, were involved. One villager stated: "It's a false reconstruction that does not take account of the historical reality," adding "This sort of fiction should be banned, otherwise the damage to the memory and historical truth will be very serious."

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I don't even understand what you sensitive ladies are complaining about. It's like you're all sharing some psychotic delusion. It's a white girl playing a white girl, the movie just happens to take place in a different country. She's not playing an Asian person.

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It's like you're all sharing some psychotic delusion.

Not delusion. Indoctrination. Read up on intersectuality.

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You guys do understand my entire paragraph is sh*t-post and completely sacrcastic... right?

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Poe's law.

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No disrespect meant, but this "point" while valid, has a lot of irony.

The original poster starts the whole thing with "as an asian-american" which probably means the person has no ties to Japanese culture what so ever, other than heritage...and they didn't even indicate their heritage.

I'm familiar with the forest in question and while it is tragic, it's just a movie. Get over it. People make movies "based on" or "inspired by" true events all the time, and they generally couldn't be further from the truth, but folks don't usually get bent out of shape about it and use it as a platform to preach.

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How about japanese people make their own movie about that topic with japanese actors? Movies are a business and, just like every other business, hollywood caters to their biggest audience. Dormer is the only reason this movie get any attention at all. This would've been a straight to DVD production with some random japanese girl in the lead. Stop treating movie studios like they are somehow required to do philanthropical work. Their only job is to make money. You wouldn't ask the owner of a candy store to tell kids how bad candy is for their teeth. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

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They already did a few years ago.

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"Asian-American" my backside. My "people". What a crock.

ASIA -- is a freaking CONTINENT filled with all sorts of DIFFERENT ethnicities.

Indian. Pakistan. Korean. Chinese. Japanese, Burmese, Sri Lankan, et al. Who, by the way, have been killing each other for millenia.

And YOU'RE AMERICAN. Not Japanese.

Who says YOU speak for an actual Japanese person. You know FROM JAPAN. Which you are not.

Talk about arrogant. IN fact, there's a Japanese guy who just told you the same thing.

Try checking out British flicks of the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s...

Guess what, you'll find an AMERICAN star parachuted into tons of movies set in England.

Guess why, TO GET THE THING MADE and to get US money to make it.

Also guess what, people outside America think you're an AMERICAN - not a goddamn Asian-American, whatever that is

Nobody outside your country cares how YOU balkanese yourself. You're all arrogant yanks to us.

Stop whining like a little racist.

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