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Pills scene is unrealistic (spoilers)


If Alice really forgot what she was supposed to do every time she went upstairs, why did she keep remembering she was watching a video with instructions the minute before? And then, the last time when she comes back and decides to grab the laptop, why did she remember she had just gone upstairs looking for something but forgetting what it was?


People with advanced Alzheimer's (as Alice is supposed to be at this stage) usually forget what they were doing altogether, instead of just forgetting the last step and going back to the previous one. Therefore, once upstairs she would have rather gotten distracted and started doing something else, forgetting about the computer and the video entirely.

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We don't know her thought process in that scene though, or how long she was going back and forth between the computer and upstairs. It is likely she did forget several times what she had been doing and just kept returning to the kitchen and seeing the video.

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I think it is unlikely that she would, at that point in the disease's progression, remember how to use a laptop, much less how to get to the page she wanted. My mom had Alzheimer's, & how to utilize electronics was one of the first things to go.

Also, how could her cell be in that tiny refrigerator for a month without someone finding it. There were several people in that house - no one saw it in the fridge for a month???

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Is it possible that different patients experience different things??

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And then she decided to take the laptop with her the last time just out of the blue? Unlikely...

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Each case is unique with Alzheimer's.

Not easy to argue how Alice's disease is manifesting after a few months, or what she would be able to comprehend, remember or actual capable of doing.

Having cared for a relative in an Alzeheimers ward, it should be stated that each patient I observed was very different.

Some had specific patterns where they were lucid around sundown, then went back to complete memory loss.
Some had short term memory loss, but could remember dozens of songs from the past. Some wandered around and had lost all language. Some were constantly agitated and wept, screamed etc. or fixated on one idea and repeated it over and over. Those people had to be separated and sedated.

I donated a large collection of classic movies on VHR that patients watched in a lounge. Once in a while they would recognize Fred Astaire or Judy Garland or John Wayne or Marlon Brando. This was always noted, because many did not recognize their own relatives yet the movies sometimes triggered memory.

As for using laptops, I did not observe that. Most seemed to have forgotten how to use even basic daily objects, like a comb or brush. Of course, the people I observed were too old to be very familiar with laptops even without mental impairment. Not to be disrespectful. It will be interesting to note if people these days who were raised with computers will be able to remember how to use these objects. Hopefully, there will be a cure for Alzheimer's in the near future.

It's one of the most tragic things I've ever observed. I completely understand the Alice character making a plan to off herself in the future. What she did not realize is that as her disease progressed she would be unable to carry out her own instructions, nor would she understand her own prior plans.

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I still think the whole pills scene was cartoonish, and actually makes a disservice to people with Alzheimer's disease by almost making mockery of them.

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You are absolutely entitled to the opinion that you find the pill scene cartoonish, but I've seen documentary footage of Alzheimer's patients doing very similar things to what Julianne Moore's character did in that movie.

It's a tough subject to show in any case. If you are interested, there is an incredible HBO series of documentaries of about 16 hours of various Alzheimer's patients. One hour is narrated by Maria Shriver -- who also produced "Still Alice". Her father Sergeant Shriver [married to a Kennedy daughter & hugely famous political figure] had Alzheimer's. His family was one of the first to reveal in a huge public forum the horrors that had befelled this highly educated, intelligent, powerful man due to his disease. In that part of the series Shriver addresses how to help children cope with visiting a grandparent who doesn't recognize anyone in the family.

There are several other topics covered in the documentary series. There are patients interviewed in various stages of the disease, i.e., when they are still coherent, 6 months later when they begin to forget simple words, and after another 6 months as the disease progresses to where they don't have any idea what is going on. Heartbreaking & terrifying. There is a one hour film about a woman who has taken to eating rocks, and how her daughter tries to take care of her. In that part of the series, the neighbors band together to help build a fence -- which the mother/daughter cannot afford-- around the property to keep the mother with Alzheimer's from wandering off the property and getting lost or being hit by a vehicle. The footage of her constantly trying to eat rocks is equally as cartoonish as Julianne Moore's pill scene in the bathroom -- except, sadly, it is very real.

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I'm only sorry that she didn't get to take all the pills and lie down for a long nap.

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Same here, it was clearly sane Alice's choice to set herself and her family free once she wouldn't be herself anymore. I was sad she never got to swallow the pills.

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Thank you for your reasonable and well informed post.

I completely understand the Alice character making a plan to off herself in the future. What she did not realize is that as her disease progressed she would be unable to carry out her own instructions, nor would she understand her own prior plans.
This was one of the saddest moments in the film. Even she suffering the impairment had no idea as to how she would decline.
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From my very limited understanding of the disease, memory loss works backward but not in a straight line. Sort of like in pockets. I have experience with Traumatic Brain Injury which has similar effects on the brain, but as another poster said, EVERY victim is different.
My opinion is that the movie is a fairly accurate depiction of the disease progression, but not nearly accurate enough of the toll on family and caregivers, AND of the options for institutionalism. Truthfully I've never seen such a palace hospital or the unfair representation of patients. That being said, it was a "movie", not a documentary. And telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth would not have been watched. People don't want to face the unvarnished facts. What the movie did do was get the conversation started. And that's a good thing.

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What an excellent post! This is an important film because it opens up dialog. It may encourage some to seek medical attention. I'm sure it encouraged some to donate to Alzheimer's Disease Research. With the aging Baby Boomers population, there will be an increase in numbers. The importance of gene therapy relates to recent discovery of 14 genes that can be used to target Alzheimer's.

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It was actually very realistic.

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Yes it was very realistic. It happens to me like that all the time.

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Your entire assumption is wrong .Clearly you have no idea how complicated the human brain is, and you try to 'make it work' according to your own logic. well, it doesn't work like that.

" people usually forget what they were doing altogether" --a wild guess, and a very wrong one. Who told you that? Have you been studying patents for the last 10 years? That's a wrongful conclusion. It's very likely that she'll forget one thing, and not the other. Even scientists don't really know how exactly the brain works, and they surely don't know enough about Alzheimer, otherwise it would have been cured already. So you're trying to guess here things our best scientists don't even know?

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Your entire assumption is wrong .Clearly you have no idea how complicated the human brain is, and you try to 'make it work' according to your own logic. well, it doesn't work like that.

" people usually forget what they were doing altogether" --a wild guess, and a very wrong one. Who told you that? Have you been studying Alzheimer's patients for the last 10 years? That's a wrongful conclusion. It's very likely that she'll forget one thing, and not the other. Even scientists don't really know how exactly the brain works, and they surely don't know enough about Alzheimer, otherwise it would have been cured already. So you're trying to guess here things our best scientists don't even know?

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OK. So your theory is that Alice goes upstairs, and once there she tells herself "Oh, I was supposed to be looking for something, but I don't remember what it is. I need to go downstairs and watch that damn video again." And after doing this multiple times, she finally says "I better take the laptop with me this time so I don't forget."

If that's the case, she doesn't look like a person with "Advanced" Alzheimer's disease, but just someone a little bid absent-minded. In fact, this happens to me every now and then, so I better get checked for Advanced Alzheimer's. Even better, I should take the laptop with me next time I see my doctor so I don't forget.

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Symptoms come in waves and so do lulls. And it's faster to go downstairs than up, so less time to forget, and nothing necessarily to capture her attention as well.

The only thing that bothered me about that scene was what happened next. There were all these pills on the floor, there was a note, there was a video on her computer that could have been seen. Did the caretaker cover it up? Was any information relayed to the family?

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I wondered the same thing. My best guess: Someone disposed of the pills, deleted the video from her computer, and assumed she would forget and not try again.

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The only thing that bothered me about that scene was what happened next.


Yea me too. I really would have liked some more closure on that. Instead we get a scene that doesn't amount to anything where Alice sits with her daughter outside and they decide it's getting cold.. and everybody else acts as if they don't know anything about the suicide attempt. I mean the pill box and the pills can't just have magically disappeared, or did I miss Neil Patrick Harris performing some kind of magic trick?

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Some people on this board would argue that Alice went downstairs and deleted the video, as people with Advanced Alzheimer's are very good at covering their tracks :-)

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She thought she was doing a good thing, listening to the woman in the video, happy. She was frustrated and upset at messing up, but it didn't seem as if she knew what she had almost done.

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I assumed the caretaker and her husband know all about it. Whether he told the kids is another question.

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The doctor said in the meeting before her speech that "Alice is very resourceful" despite her affliction. He was referring to how intelligent people use tricks to remember things and suffer more from memory loss than less intelligent people.

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lol everyone's brain work differently when they're in a healthy condition, not to mention when they have Alzheimer's so it's quite ignorant of you to think she must have behaved in a certain way. any way to be honest!

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