Stupid feminist propaganda


She doesn't need men to be happy she says. Well, in that case she's a dysfunctional human being, because healthy individuals need the opposite sex in their lives, their help, love and approval in order to be happy. We're social creatures and we need those mentioned above from as many as we possibly can and whoever denies this lives in a bubble so opaque only 3rd wave feminists live in.

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You are missing the point here. She says she doesn't " need" a man as in she can be happy as a whole human being without a man by her side. It doesn't mean she doesn't want to find a male partner to share her life with. Men do not " need" a woman by their side in order to be whole or to feel happy with themselves,therefore,this word " need" used in this context must mean " want" from their perspective. But this film is told from a female perspective and all of us understand it because the message " you are nothing without a man" has been drummed into us since birth. Therefore,when Minnie says she doesn't need a man to be happy we know that she means she is very definitely something and someone without a man. She is a real person not an appendage to a man. It is an issue that women get immediately since it's an intrinsic part of their lives.

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You misunderstood. She did not mean she never intends to be in a relationship ever again, only that, unlike her mother, she doesn't "need" a man to simply be happy. It's nothing to do with "feminist propoganda."

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There are many people who define themselves by their relationships, it's true. They can't be alone. But those are the weakest people and the least interesting.

I'm a real kewl kat.๐Ÿˆ

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So, the most personal, intimate relationship you can have with another human being is worthless?? That's what women today don't understand. Women have always held the family unit as being sacred. It's part of the nesting instinct in EVERY female mammal on Earth. Men are not built that way. We must to decide to live like that. We're designed to plant our seed in one and move on to another. By screwing up that dynamic, it's devastating to society because it tells children not to value their partner or their relationships at all. That's why things are so sh!tty right now.

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Who said they are worthless? They just arenโ€™t everything. Stop the straw man thing. Itโ€™s irritating.

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No strawman, he is right.

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He's creating an argument I never made.

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What I don't like is how its totally ok for these female storytellers to tell a story about an older man taking advantage of a 15 year old girl but when a man makes the same fcking movie, it's seen as misogynistic or exploitation.

I mean, what the fck are white men allowed to do that doesn't offend someone?

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They could stop whining - that would be a good start. The world doesn't revolve around white men simply because they are white men any more.

I was expected to prop up/marry a white male with less intelligence, less drive and less talent than me. Thank god I realized what a millstone he would have been. His father said to me, oh you'll make sure X does this and that and blah blah blah. Do I regret passing up the opportunity to ensure X was a success? Not one bit. Instead, I've had an interesting life.

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You can't really look at it from the perspective of an embittered male virgin (or FORMERLY embittered male virgin who eventually found someone). There are a lot of women and some men (definitely some gay and bi men) who just go from one relationship to another when they're young without ever having the healthy experience of being alone. Being alone is healthy from the perspective of THIS character. It's not meant to be a statement on the human condition, or even on all women.

As for the other objection, I agree more. This would be considered unforgivably vile and perverted if it were made by a male director or told from the POV of the older male. The problem there though is not THIS movie. A lot of people seem to think males only watch movies like this because we all secretly want to sodomize teenage girls. However, just because I like watching something IN A MOVIE, doesn't necessarily mean I want to do it personally in real life. I like violence in movies, but I'm not violent in real-life. And I enjoy all kinds of sexually messed-up movies (including these kind of "lolita" movies), but it doesn't mean I'm sexually messed up in real life. Both the uptight feminists and male moralists GENERALLY need to relax a little about stuff like this. But you shouldn't assume the female fans of Phoebe Glockner are the SAME group of militant feminists that would have a fit about a movie like this if it were made from the male perspective. I imagine they're pretty cool actually.


"Let be be finale of seem/ The only emperor is the Emperor of Ice Cream"

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Pig ignorant motherfcker.



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Women should shut up. How dare they have a point of view.

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Help, sure. Love, yes. Approval, from no-one, ever. And being self-reliant, in as many ways as possible, is good.

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