That dude was the worst gun nut ever...he gives him a Circuit Judge? Really? That thing is such a clunky POS...and it only shoots a .410....why not just give him a regular shotgun? He'd have been far better off. Or maybe one of the WWI era rifles he suggested first...it's so simple to just hit google for a few minutes or just ask somebody...how do they always get guns so wrong in movies...
shareThis movie was made for less that forty grand, so it may simply be that they went with what they had.
shareHey! Director here to answer your question: Ben gives Dwight a Mini-14, says why on camera. Switches Dwight to buckshot after seeing him miss from point blank range. Mentions that "it's not as powerful as 12 gauge" in his dialogue- meaning Dwight can't handle anything more than a pop gun with a wide spread. Also, Ben is giving Dwight only guns from his collection that have no registration papers. It was indeed thought through. I might ask "how do audiences get is so wrong when watching movies?"
shareThat was amazing... reminded me of that scene in Annie Hall, the one where Woody produces Marshall McLuhan out of thin air:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJ8tKRlW3E
I take my hat off to you, Mr Saulnier. And congratulations on Blue Ruin - I caught it this afternoon and thought it was superb.
"Switches him to buckshot after seeing him miss"? Buck shot is a pretty tight spread, not a wide spread. In fact, it's the tightest spread (besides a slug of course). That's why it's designed on larger animals and not birds,....
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which is still a wider spread than a bullet. what don't you get?
Depends on the choke.
sharemeaning Dwight can't handle anything more than a pop gun with a wide spread.That's a common misconception. Shotguns don't have a "wide spread" at close ranges (i.e., typical combat distances), and this is especially true for a .410 with buckshot. At say, 25 feet, the "spread" (pattern) would be about 2 or 3 inches, which does not increase your chances of a hit by a significant amount. The range at which he missed the guy in the trunk appeared to only be about half that distance, in which case the pattern would only be maybe an inch or an inch and a half.
The guy was apparently living in the car while camped near the ocean. Given time the salt air would corrode the heck out of it, and it would kind of be all over, rather than concentrated around the wheels like rust from road salt.
shareI'm from Maine, and see plenty of cars from coastal towns. It doesn't work that way. Cars don't rust like that unless someone sands off the paint to the bare steel in those areas and waits a little while. Salt air doesn't magically penetrate paint so that it can get to the steel beneath. Body rust on cars happens in places where moisture (and salty moisture is worse) can get trapped behind the body panels. The moisture usually has a delivery and retaining mechanism, such as mud and/or slush. The mud and/or slush keeps moisture against the body panels for far longer than if it was just water alone (such as from rain), and even if it does dry out, it is just waiting there like a dry sponge to soak up and retain water the next time it is exposed to it. Any rust that happens higher up on the body is generally in the form of round rusty spots with blistering paint, usually no bigger than a golf ball, and it is due to a factory flaw in the paint in that particular area (or accidental damage) letting moisture and oxygen (the two required components for rust to form) reach the steel.
The "rust" on this 1990 Pontiac is not accompanied by any blistering paint or jagged / flaking / falling-off pieces of rust. It looks fake as the day is long, and my guess is that it was painted on (very common in movies; for example, all of the "rust" on the Joe Dirt (2001) Daytona clone was painted on:
http://www.californiaclassix.com/images/JD-leftfront-remote.jpg
That was a mint-condition, fully-restored show car when they started, and the undercarriage and under the hood are still pristine looking. The car doesn't have a speck of real rust on it anywhere. The same goes for the "before" General Lee in The Dukes of Hazzard (2005); that "rust" was painted on as well:
http://chargersteve.com/pb/images/img1741849d17b09cdd0a.jpg
I don't dance, tell jokes or wear my pants too tight, but I do know about a thousand songs.
Man, you have way too much time on your hands. Breathe, relax, and just watch the movie instead of trying to analyze every fkking thing in it.
shareYour non sequitur is dismissed, simpleton.
I don't dance, tell jokes or wear my pants too tight, but I do know about a thousand songs.
And your 5-month-late reply is dismissed, jackass.
shareGiven that you have tacitly conceded that you posted a non sequitur, you've also tacitly conceded that you are an idiot in the process (given that only idiots post non sequiturs).
I don't dance, tell jokes or wear my pants too tight, but I do know about a thousand songs.
I admitted nothing, cretin. But thanks for playing. Move along now; your fat wife needs to use the computer to play Candy Crush. 🐷
shareI admitted nothing, cretin.Obviously, dumbass, which is why your concession was tacit.
But thanks for playing. Move along now; your fat wife needs to use the computer to play Candy Crush.Yet another non sequitur from you, thus confirmation of your status as an idiot (not that confirmation was actually needed).
What is wrong with you? Did you actually writhe a lengthy post to complain about the spread of the rust on a car in a movie?
Do yourself a favor and NEVER watch a movie again.
Go home and get your *beep* shine box
Yeah, I noticed that too. I also wondered about the battery working after sitting - didn't catch how long he'd been there. And the car started straight-away.
Yeah, I know, wasn't the point of the movie or even a major hinge - just crossed my mind. Must be a Maine thing.
Yeah I see what you mean about the rust patterns now that you point it out...but ONLY NOW that you point it out! What is going on here? Your response about the gun noise was technically impressive. A little much but hey, I understand there are a lot of gun nuts out there and they take their expertise seriously. But the rust patterns now? I'm less inclined to indulge a rust nut about potential movie flaws. Again, impressive observations, but let this one slide eh?
Take The Challenge: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0410591/board/threads/
Loved the movie. Please tell the rest of of Hollywood we want more films like yours (i.e. not guys who turn into Navy Seals in a moments notice). Your film reminds of films from the early '70s when cinema was at its height. Secondly, please tell distributors to get these kinds of movies into theatres besides major metropolitan cities on the coast.
sharemrhideous, you have to be a masochist to want to come onto IMDB and read people's posts, who have never made a movie, and tear into you and tell you what all you did wrong.
shareI am so grateful to hear from the director ...I thought this was an incredible job beautiful photography ..writing and directing ..I was wondering what the budget was and a gentleman before you made the comment that it was less than 40k that alone is astounding, TO MANAGE a crew and all that went into this , I simply don't understand how you paid anyone because they all did so wonderfully and the details take so much work and money... for such a budget it's mind blowing ..the crew must be amazing and have truly cared about what they did because it shows in the film and makeup was fantastic. .so good ..i am a thriller and horror buff and this was really great ...dark raw and interesting ..I too am always astounded by people who criticize and how they do so. ..the lead actor was such a refreshing change and truly brilliant and the rest of cast as well do a great job. Thank you for doing your thing truly a fan ..Amy Williams
share"After pooling as much cash as possible, it took $160,000 to greenlight the movie. After maxing out credit cards and refinancing homes, Saulnier turned to Kickstarter to raise a further $38,000 for expenses. (The final budget came to just over $420,000)."
http://www.screendaily.com/features/jeremy-saulnier-blue-ruin/5071094.article
Wow, I had no idea the budget was so low and it was partially funded on Kickstarter. It's actually incredible how professional and good the movie looks with a budget that low.
Also incredible the director himself posted in this thread (his comment a few posts above). Terrific film, Mr. Saulnier!
You are obviously not much of a gun nut. He asks him how much he weighs. If you have ever fired a nagant or .303 - you would know this makes a lot of sense.
sharefantastic movie, no instant mastery of skills like in "hollywood" movies.
no surgery skills automatically acquired, just an ordinary guy trying to do the best he can with what little he had.
i was just curious , is it that easy to get a firearm in that part of america?
"legally" he couldnt,but illegally, apart from that one trigger lock it looked
incredibly easy?
gun nut"s gunsafe looked like a gym locker and clelands "cabinet" looked like glass and pallet wood.
neither house looked burgler proof/secure.
i was just curious , is it that easy to get a firearm in that part of america?He could have legally bought one (assuming he wasn't e.g., a convicted felon, and there was nothing to indicate that he was); he just didn't have enough money for one when he was looking at them at the shop. After he took that guy's wallet (the guy he put in the trunk; he used some of the money to buy medical supplies for his futile attempt to remove the arrow from his leg) he may have had enough money for a cheap gun.
"legally" he couldnt,but illegally, apart from that one trigger lock it looked
incredibly easy?
gun nut"s gunsafe looked like a gym locker and clelands "cabinet" looked like glass and pallet wood.
neither house looked burgler proof/secure.
Also if he had a history of mental illness buying one from a dealer would be a no go. Locking guns up is not mandatory in the united states, as it is redundant (with a carry permit you can bring them just about anywhere.) Notice how he singled out a country bar and truck, and found a gun...that is plausible and was very intelligent writing. He was just as likely to get shot stealing it in that manner.
I agree with you new90, this movie was fantastic.
Notice how he singled out a country bar and truck, and found a gun
I saw it how dravisar saw it..
shareFor point-and-shoot ease of operation, close quarters indoor usage, subdued noise/recoil, mechanical reliability - I'd say the Circuit Judge is not at all an unreasoned choice for the inexperienced assassin. Plus, it fit him well and looked cool enough.
shareyou can't be a gun nut with poor judgement or a bit of misinformation?
i'm a nut for many subjects but i don't hold a doctorate for any of them