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I hate black and white movies


...it remand me of my poor youth when we didn't have enough money for a color TV

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That's a pretty subjective reason not to like black and white films. Some of the greatest films ever made were in black and white, Casablanca and Citizen Kane just two name two. On the flip side of your reason, when I was very young I thought that the reason movies made in the 30s and 40s were in bw was that the world was in black and white back then. Pretty silly, I admit.

There are some older movies that, because color was such a prohibitively expensive process, and, in the old days just too experimental to deal with, were made in standard bw, but should have been in any case. Try watching Dead End and imagine it in color. I can't. Some films were just made for that format, and I think Frances Ha was very niceky shot. It was very atmospheric and correct, in my opinion.

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One might think that only cinema lovers had made their way to the IMDB.

One would be terribly mistaken.

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I think that the OP should stop being ashamed of the poverty he experienced during his youth.

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You might want to remember that the two films you highlight were made in an era when color film was RARELY used. Color film didn't become prevalent until the 1950s; even the Oscars had separate cinematography awards for black-and-white and color films from the 1939 awards (although "Special Achievement" awards were presented between 1936-38) until the 1967 awards. Generally, during this era, "spectacle" films (big epics and musicals) and the Disney animated films were in color while other films were black-and-white (before any "but _____ was done in color and it wasn't a spectacle film" or "but ______ was in black-and-white and it was spectacle film" objections are raised, yes, I'm aware that there are exceptions; that's why I wrote "generally"). And the reason I focus on the cinematography award is that it took a great deal of skill to turn color subjects (ie, actors and scenery) into black-and-white film so that the final result still looked real (and most modern cinematographers don't dispute this).

Since 1967, perhaps a dozen B&W movies, deliberately filmed in B&W, have been nominated for cinematography (and "Schindler's List" is the only one to have won). And, there've probably been slightly more than that many B&W films that have been nominated for Best Picture (with only 2--"Schindler's List" and "The Artist"--winning in that period; in fact, "Schindler's" was the first B&W film to win the Best Picture award since "The Apartment" in 1960).

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You probably hate Ansel Adams too! If only his photographs were in color!!!

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Oh,please---I LOVE black and white movies! I'm just old enough to remember having grown up with a black & white TV,but it never made me hate black & white anything---probably because I grew up watching old black and white films anyway. So I've never understood this whole "I hate black & white films" to begin with. To me, black & white in a film is not only beautiful, it paradoxically makes the film (depending on the subject matter) look more stripped of its glamour and more realistic/down to earth. Hell, some of the most loveliest films I've seen were made in black and white---I'm assuming you got to be joking about this---when I grew up with a black & white TV,we were just grateful the damn thing worked, and that we could watch anything on the few channels that existed then (the Internet as we know it now didn't exist back then,and cable was just taking off.) I can't believe someone in this day & age claims they can't stand black & white films when virtually EVERY film (with a few exceptions) made before 1950 was in black & white----meaning you wouldn't be watching half of film history itself----that is so ridiculous,for real!

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A modern b/w film needs a good reason to be in b/w or it just comes across as a gimmick. It also needs to look good. Shooting a film in colour and then removing all the colour can leave a film looking flat and grey and lacking the unique monochrome beauty of the great looking classic b/w films.

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Excellent and important point, John. Currently, all "Black & White" movies are shot digitally in color and then have the color removed. It creates the opposite effect of those wretched 80s colorized B&W movies - a pasty faux B&W. More in this thread: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2347569/board/flat/211579322

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When I was a kid, I sometimes changed the colour settings on the TV and pretend I was watching a classic movie (or television from the 60s) Although I don't think I ever watched an actual black & white film when I was a kid.

Though I kind of felt the use of black and white for this film was a bit gimmicky but I got used to it.

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Colour film has been around since the 30s but B&W was used in regularly into the 1960s. Partly economic but it was mainly an artistic reason to keep using black and white.

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yep, go & try buildin' a time travel machine instead of faking stuff on tv. i love both cgi & make-up effects tho. elysium pacific-rim & the walking dead, or cosplay pros, gr8 stuff.
a b&w movie in 2013? i'd rather watch a bbw movie anytime :]

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There was no reason for it to be black and white, except as a last ditch attempt to make a pointless movie "interesting", not to mention most movies shot 60 years ago or whatever look better than this

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Am I the only one for whom it's really a minor detail ?


- A point in every direction is the same as no point at all.

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Black and white was perfect, it was colour in my mind anyway.

It also made the juxtaposition of modern technology in a B&W film really weird and interesting

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Exactly. I don't really like the way the modern world shines with all the ads and stuff.

When they were in the bed with the computer on, I was thinking to myself that computers light might be beautiful in black and white.

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yes it was. A kind of otherworldly glow

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