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Rosario dead or alive at end??

posted 9 years ago by radiqus
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When the cops open the van door is she alive or dead? That's the only thing I want to know. Anything else I don't need to know; we've (most of us) established the movie has waaaay more negatives than positives. Which is why am extremely puzzled by the few ardent 10 stars reviewers. The plotholes are unmissable, and they're A LOT (see them listed on the neg reviews). So maybe they saw an alternate movie plot with same cast and title? I dont know.
Anyway anybody know if Rosario is dead or alive in the van at the end? Would love to ask her in person but I suspect I might forget the question if I met her.

[–] Liadtella 9 years ago

Yep she squinted when the door was opened and her hand moved I had to rewind it it to check!

[–] qfal 9 years ago

She was alive. I'm not sure why you thought she wasn't.

[–] proof 9 years ago

OP thought she might have offed herself for signing up to be in such a terrible movie.

[–] WackyKacky 8 years ago

Funny!

[–] fred-schiller1 9 years ago

I missed it too. At that point I was so angry at wasting two hours that I was seeing red.

99% of this movie was flat as cardboard. No depth, no attention to details. Everyone except Reynolds was mumbling their dialogue. Was the mother a maid in a hotel? She only had three rooms to clean? Nothing was developed or through through. More holes than a wheel of Swiss cheese. I've been more captivated by a grade school play. Bah--I hate having my time wasted.

"If you do nothing long enough, something's bound to happen."
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[–] JrnlofEddieDeezenStudies 8 years ago

Was the mother a maid in a hotel?

Yeah, that was one of the many things that was needlessly confusing because it was under-explained. Those rooms seemed like a cross between a hotel, a condo--either one big one or a few different ones, or even her own apartment, where she just didn't take her uniform off once she got home and where she'd developed some sort of cleaning OCD behavior in the wake of her daughter's disappearance. I spent way too much time trying to sleuth stuff like that out when there was no good reason to not make it clear to the audience.

[–] WackyKacky 8 years ago

I knew the mother worked in a hotel because she had a uniform on with a name tag. Most people don't clean their homes like that. And unless she was rich, which she obviously wasn't, it couldn't have been her home.

[–] JrnlofEddieDeezenStudies 8 years ago

But possibilities were "she just didn't take her uniform off once she got home and where she'd developed some sort of cleaning OCD behavior in the wake of her daughter's disappearance," as I mention in my post, and there's no way to price what it would cost as her condo or whatever versus her salary, possible inheritance she might have, etc.

There was just too much unexplained, with too many possibilities re what the explanation(s) could have been, when that wasn't at all integral to the plot or mood of the film.

[–] cjfree 9 years ago

I'm confused about that timeline: when did Rosario locate the hotel room cameras when the scene just before that showed her getting kidnapped? What did I miss???

[–] CuriousDan 9 years ago

Despite the flaws and plot holes it wasn't that bad, I liked the atmosphere and acting. Actually liked it more than Se7en, but the latter was perfectly assembled. But I find it very dissapointing that the writers didn't had the guts to get rid of Nicole. She was useless to the gang. Her survival was purely there to satisfy the audience. Too bad, the movie could have needed a more bitter ending.

[–] GenusHomo 9 years ago

You....ummmm.........."liked it more than Se7en"?

May your deity or devil have mercy on your soul.

What's in the box?! Definitely not CuriousDan's Brains, they don't exist.

[–] WackyKacky 8 years ago

Agreed! Instead of killing her (which obviously the wacko guy was capable of doing) he decides to hid her in a van that I keep thinking, "she's a cop, she'll escape". It was after all a van. Why would they put her in a van in a building rather than kill her and be done with it? As Nicole said, there were no happy endings, just stories. The script writers didn't take their own advice. They wanted to have a Fargo feel to the movie, with a happy ending. Only the bad guys died.

[–] heyteegs (1207) 3 years ago

There was that scene where the long-haired pedo who had been arrested told Mika to do it to Nicole and make sure she's alive. I don't recall what the 'do it' was but that might have something to do. Otherwise, it's a crap movie.

[–] kay_rock 9 years ago

I'm confused about that timeline: when did Rosario locate the hotel room cameras when the scene just before that showed her getting kidnapped? What did I miss???

This had me completely baffled. She's in the van. She's in the hotel. She's in the van.

Obviously they were time jumping, but for what possible purpose? Flashbacks made no sense in that context. Were they just trying to draw out her kidnapping for longer to make it more tense?

It got me to wondering how many things were shown out of order throughout the flick that we didn't even notice. Probably a lot. For no added value.

Did they ever explain why Scott Speedman's character was so blindly hostile he almost came across as mentally disabled?

And why did they keep suspecting reynolds for years after it was pretty obvious he wasn't the mastermind of a child porn ring?

The entire thing was nonsensical. And it shouldn't have been.

Somewhere in somebody's brain was a complex and suspenseful story that made sense. It utterly failed to translate to the screen.

Movies are IQ tests; the IMDB boards are how people broadcast their score.

[–] JBob32 9 years ago

The whole movie was back and forth. Why would it surprise you? At that point you should have been used to it.

[–] mathew5000 8 years ago

It got me to wondering how many things were shown out of order throughout the flick that we didn't even notice. Probably a lot. For no added value.

Yes, the whole film unfolds out of chronological order, going back and forth in time throughout the eight-year period of captivity. The reason is (as I understand it) to signal the audience not to worry about the story per se, as a logical sequence of cause-and-effect, but to take it more like a piece of classical music where the audience engages emotionally not analytically with the material. I'm not saying it was successful but that's probably the intention. If you want a nice conventional genre film, then Atom Egoyan is not a director you should seek out. For the style of The Captive Egoyan might have been influenced a little by Michael Haneke's films, particularly Caché, but if I recall correctly he was already playing with nonlinear chronology in Exotica and maybe even earlier.

[–] fimb 9 years ago

I must have missed it but I thought they didn't show who opened the van door. Was it cops or was it just some mysterious figure that was part of the pedophile ring?

[–] JBob32 8 years ago

1. The police found her. 2. The kidnappers had a video link to watch her so that was probably how they found her but we don't know how long it took. 3. When the police opened the van door the entire van rocked back and forth and her hand movement was synchronized with the rocking motion. 4. If she was alive they would've shown a clear indication so I think she was dead.

[–] masuka-fan 9 years ago

I would think she was alive since in the alternate ending they don't find her at all.

Passion is just insanity in a cashmere sweater!

[–] vilzeh89 9 years ago

Hmm, I guess I watched the version without them finding her, only Cass skating in the rink, smiles and the movie ends.

Never quit.

[–] MrsBuckyBarnes 7 years ago

in the alternate ending they don't find her at all.

this was the version i saw - there wasn't a scene of nicole being found.

[–] bwestbroker 9 years ago

This movie DRAGGED for SO long and then suddenly was all buttoned up in 3 mins!!HOW did they FIND Rosario?I didn't even know where she was and the guy who hid her died..so what did they use to uncover her location?Not to mention....all the fluff from the car chase to SUDDENLY entering this guy's house??DO I presume they followed the father's cell phone cell phone?I wanted to like this movie and could almost have made it there if the ending hadn't been such a clusterflock.

[–] spookyrat1 9 years ago

This movie DRAGGED for SO long and then suddenly was all buttoned up in 3 mins!!

Yes, amazing wasn't it. 8 years of winter and everyone looking the same and then it finishes as far as Atom is concerned in a couple of minutes. Yes, Nicole was alive. I think there was a video of her in Mika's house and they may have somehow traced her using that.🐭

[–] jacowium 8 years ago

I agree with you that the ending was rushed and scrambled. With regards to how the house was found, yes, they located it via the hidden phone's GPS signals. As the troops closed in on the house, the car was clearly visible in the driveway (i.e. the visual clue to the viewer).

In the real world, however, phone batteries sending lots of GPS data whilst in freezing ambient temperatures, do not last very long before running out. So, the detectives were just lucky that phone had a quality battery! Ah, but it's just a movie, I know.

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[–] armes-jc 8 years ago

Confusing question for me. In the version I watched, the cops do not open any van doors. The last reference to this is when Kevin Durand's Mika is dying with the cop saying 'where is she, where is she'. Mika dies before answering then finally with Jeffrey (Speedman) lying in hospital with Cass saying (somewhat cryptically) that she's sure they'll find Nicole soon, they're very close (how would she know?).

Unlike most, I was quite gripped by this movie. The idea has been done before, granted. But it's no less scary a topic for seeing it covered more than once.